JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 10 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Why not just reinvest some of that money in infrastructure and technology to combat global warming Would a conservative government ever commit to such an initiative? Wouldn't they have to believe in climate change first? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 minute ago, bolt said: If they don't get it from us, they'll and ourselves will import it from somewhere that doesn't have any environmental standards. This is the approach that has got the world to where it is today. I'd rather hear of ways to get us where we'd like to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Would a conservative government ever commit to such an initiative? Wouldn't they have to believe in climate change first? Would just be common sense. PP has stated many times his plan would be to tackle climate change through technology rather than encouraging people not drive their cars. Edited May 29 by Bure_Pavel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Satchmo said: This is the approach that has got the world to where it is today. I'd rather hear of ways to get us where we'd like to be. Yet emissions are way up over the last 9 years. Carbon Tax alone isn't moving the needle. Edited May 29 by bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 minute ago, Bure_Pavel said: Would just be common sense. PP has stated many times his plan would be to tackle climate change through technology rather than encouraging people not drive their cars. Technology that doesn't exist, and may not ever exist, to combat a existential threat to our planet that will become irreversible at some point? Not a risk I'm willing to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Just common sense. PP has stated many times his plan would be to tackle climate change through technology rather than encouraging people not drive their cars. https://unu.edu/press-release/un-study-reveals-hidden-environmental-impacts-bitcoin-carbon-not-only-harmful-product Maybe we should be listening to people with common sense instead of vermin like Poilivre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Technology that doesn't exist, and may not ever exist, to combat a existential threat to our planet that will become irreversible at some point? Not a risk I'm willing to take. https://www.statista.com/statistics/271748/the-largest-emitters-of-co2-in-the-world/ Even if Canada went back to the stone ages nothing would change Electing Justin over Pierre isn't going to change anything regarding climate change. So what risk are you referring to? Edited May 29 by bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Just now, bolt said: https://www.statista.com/statistics/271748/the-largest-emitters-of-co2-in-the-world/ Even if Canada went back to the stone ages nothing would change. So why not avoid going back to the stone age by allowing Poilivre to implement his barbaric beliefs on those of us who are actually civilized? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 minutes ago, King Heffy said: So why not avoid going back to the stone age by allowing Poilivre to implement his barbaric beliefs on those of us who are actually civilized? "Barbaric" Sarcastic much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 10 minutes ago, bolt said: Yet emissions are way up over the last 9 years. Carbon Tax alone isn't moving the needle. So you are saying we just give up? BTW - I strongly disagree with this line: Electing Justin over Pierre isn't going to change anything regarding climate change 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 3 hours ago, bolt said: https://torontosun.com/news/national/canadian-ventilators-sold-for-scrap-metal-report https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/former-liberal-mp-questioned-over-ventilator-contract-at-ethics-committee Bought ventilators from an ex Liberal MP who had no prior ventilator manufacturing background only to sell them for scrap. Yet another corruption scandal 9 years of corruption and ineptness This one really cracks me up, so much bullshit here. I actually know people at StarFish. Their main office is on Vancouver Island. There was no "ex Liberal MP" corruption going on here whatsoever. This was a backup plan early in the pandemic incase Canada needed a ventilator supplier, and thankfully we didn't need it after all. This company is one of Canada's leading innovators in med tech, its the kind of company we need many more of, but PP's asshats slag it like its part of some Liberal scheme. Pathetic. Edited May 29 by Bob Long 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 16 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Would just be common sense. PP has stated many times his plan would be to tackle climate change through technology rather than encouraging people not drive their cars. Has he provided any details as to how he will implement this plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 minute ago, bolt said: "Barbaric" Sarcastic much? Nope, what Poilivre wants to do to women and minorities is simply not acceptable in a civilized country. I'm not going to to minimize the bigotry coming from that waste of oxygen; people need to understand that he wants to take civil rights in Canada back 100 years to start with. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 minute ago, Satchmo said: Has he provided any details as to how he will implement this plan? By ignoring any future pandemic, effectively murdering so many Canadians that our collective carbon footprint is reduced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 6 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Has he provided any details as to how he will implement this plan? https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/trudeau-government-blames-post-pandemic-recovery-as-canadas-greenhouse-emissions-rise-for-a-second-straight/article_2a9842bc-0886-11ef-84d5-9b6a5328a23d.html Can't even reduce our 2% contribution to carbon emissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 9 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Nope, what Poilivre wants to do to women and minorities is simply not acceptable in a civilized country. I'm not going to to minimize the bigotry coming from that waste of oxygen; people need to understand that he wants to take civil rights in Canada back 100 years to start with. Lies because you were gaslighted by a desperate Liberal Party that is getting destroyed in the polls. Edited May 29 by bolt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 2 minutes ago, bolt said: Lies because you were gaslighted hey whats it called when a CPC MP introduces a bill that effects abortion rights in Canada, is that "gaslighting?" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Has he provided any details as to how he will implement this plan? Just that his administration will set emission targets and use technology to try and achieve them. Ive heard stuff like increasing the number of hydroelectric dams which would make sense. Edited May 29 by Bure_Pavel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: hey whats it called when a CPC MP introduces a bill that effects abortion rights in Canada, is that "gaslighting?" Not to mention the leader of a political party with a history of ethnic slurs in the house of commons that he refused to apologize for, or his support of the "barbaric snitch line" targeting minorities. Poilivre's refusal to cut out the hate speech and bigotry is all that's to blame here. Edited May 29 by King Heffy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 4 minutes ago, bolt said: https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/trudeau-government-blames-post-pandemic-recovery-as-canadas-greenhouse-emissions-rise-for-a-second-straight/article_2a9842bc-0886-11ef-84d5-9b6a5328a23d.html Can't even reduce our 2% contribution to carbon emissions. I read the article looking for details of Poilievre's plan to solve climate problems via technology, which as I'm sure you will remember was what I was asking for. A short paragraph on axe the tax was all I saw. The devil is in the lack of details. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 minute ago, Satchmo said: I read the article looking for details of Poilievre's plan to solve climate problems via technology, which as I'm sure you will remember was what I was asking for. A short paragraph on axe the tax was all I saw. The devil is in the lack of details. The plan to impoverish Canadians so they can't travel is more effective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 6 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Just that his administration will set emission targets and use technology to try and achieve them. Ive heard stuff like increasing the number of hydroelectric dams which would make sense. A bit scant on the details I was asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Liberal parliamentarians are criticizing Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre over a new video in which he promotes the idea that some Canadians are 'fleeing' Canada to live in Nicaragua because they can't afford a house in this country. https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/poilievre-says-canadians-fleeing-to-nicaragua-liberals-say-it-shows-he-doesn-t-have-a-clue-1.6905459 My god PP is becoming an international embarrassment He's gone past hate and fear into the absolute ludicrous and delusional The fact that none of his party has stepped forward to take the keys away shows just how far gone and destroyed the conservative party has become Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 18 hours ago, Satchmo said: I didn't mean to put you on the spot. I agree there has to be some overlap, just as there is some between Libs and Dems. I do think there may be more going on with some Conservatives though. The Ontario Party hiring Roger Stone is just one example. Though you may not have heard it, there is talk of 'Parents Rights'. Some anti-abortion talk. Some religious groups seem to be amping up. The word 'woke' has come to Canada. Political attacks are becoming more viscous. State of the Nations: Canadians proud of country, but see ‘Trump-style politics’ as a risk ...concerns over the potential for “Trump-style politics” are palpable. Just 13 per cent of Canadians say that this approach – driven by bombastic populist messaging, disregard for institutions and legal norms, and attacks on “the deep state” – is something to which Canada is immune. Three-quarters (75%) say that the Trump trend – which has inspired imitators around the globe – is something that can happen in Canada. https://angusreid.org/canada-trump-politics-poilievre-trudeau-democracy-elections/ I don't know who Roger Stone is, so I can't say I care or will comment on that. Define parents rights? I have seen all sorts of explanations on what that supposedly is. "A common sense Conservative government will not legislate on abortion and therefore would never use this section of the Constitution pertaining to this matter," he said.May 10, 2024 That's straight from the horses mouth, so any abortion talks just come across as fear mongering. Can you provide some "Trump style tactics" being used here? Anyways I have never mentioned any of these topics nor even commented on them, so again I still have to ask. How am I using "us talking points" as Bob keeps saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sapper said: Liberal parliamentarians are criticizing Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre over a new video in which he promotes the idea that some Canadians are 'fleeing' Canada to live in Nicaragua because they can't afford a house in this country. https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/poilievre-says-canadians-fleeing-to-nicaragua-liberals-say-it-shows-he-doesn-t-have-a-clue-1.6905459 My god PP is becoming an international embarrassment He's gone past hate and fear into the absolute ludicrous and delusional The fact that none of his party has stepped forward to take the keys away shows just how far gone and destroyed the conservative party has become Pretty difficult to catch up to Justin as an international embarrassment. https://torontosun.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-canada-embarrassed-on-world-stage-again https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-under-trudeau-canada-fades-from-world-stage Edited May 29 by bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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