Bob Long Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, Ricky Ravioli said: Two Completely Different Situations 10 years Apart This is ridiculous honestly So I guess this means you're done with the brown face stuff? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Optimist Prime Posted June 7 Popular Post Share Posted June 7 Just reading about Chinas incredible investments in Solar and Wind power, and I instantly thought of all the people posting here that it is absolutely useless for Canada to do anything to help the climate crisis as long as India and China and the USA and Russia are doing nothing. Turns out the only ones that want to do nothing are the Conservatives in Canada. Quote The world’s biggest solar plant has come online, according to Chinese media. Covering 13,333 hectares (32,947 acres) in the desert of northwest Xinjiang and capable of powering a small country on its own, the facility was reportedly connected to the grid on Monday. Located in a desert area of Ürümqi, capital of the famously troubled Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in Northwestern China, the 3.5-gigawatt-capacity plant is slated to generate about 6.09 billion kilowatt hours (kWh) of electricity each year. That’s enough to single-handedly power a country like Cameroon or Laos, or fulfill the entire electrical demand of Vermont or Alaska. The installation comes amid a surge of investment into renewable energy in the country – one that the International Energy Agency (IEA) recently described as “extraordinary”. “In 2023, China commissioned as much solar PV as the entire world did in 2022,” the agency pointed out in its Renewables 2023 report back in January That’s good news for anyone who likes not living in an uninhabitable post-climate-apocalypse world: currently, China is also far and away the largest contributor of carbon emissions from fossil fuels and industry. That’s largely driven by its huge population – per person, the US is worse for the environment – but it’s still enough to outstrip the entire rest of the developed world combined. Lately, though, there have been signs that China’s carbon emissions might have peaked. Levels fell for the first time in 14 months back in March according to an analysis by Carbon Brief, reports The Economist, and the same was likely true in April. While it’s still too early to call it for sure, experts have long been convinced that the country will at least meet its stated goal of an emissions peak no later than 2030. “By 2030 […] almost half of China’s electricity generation will come from renewable energy sources,” predicted the IEA. That’s largely driven by the country’s ever-accelerating development of wind and solar farms: indeed, even before the deployment of this new solar mega-plant, the two largest operational facilities were already located in western China. 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Just now, Optimist Prime said: Just reading about Chinas incredible investments in Solar and Wind power, and I instantly thought of all the people posting here that it is absolutely useless for Canada to do anything to help the climate crisis as long as India and China and the USA and Russia are doing nothing. Turns out the only ones that want to do nothing are the Conservatives in Canada. windmills make you gay 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, Bob Long said: So I guess this means you're done with the brown face stuff? Until the next time PP is called a Nazi by a certain poster 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Optimist Prime said: Just reading about Chinas incredible investments in Solar and Wind power, and I instantly thought of all the people posting here that it is absolutely useless for Canada to do anything to help the climate crisis as long as India and China and the USA and Russia are doing nothing. Turns out the only ones that want to do nothing are the Conservatives in Canada. Yet China's emissions are dramatically increasing. Good for Canadian exports of coal which is up substantially over the last 9 years. https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/china/ Are you seriously commending Chinas incredibly bad environmental track record? Edited June 7 by bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Bob Long said: windmills make you gay 2 windmills in China makes up for the rest of their pollution. But virtual signalling is better than facts. Edited June 7 by bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said: What does something that happened in 2014 have to do with this current allegations? It's called a whataboutism. Hippy is a master at that in defending Trudeau... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said: And yet it was every liberal that voted, voted against looking into the foreign interference. Is that not of concern to you? https://www.noscommunes.ca/Members/en/votes/44/1/339?view=party#mip-vote-text-collapsible-text The Liberals obviously have something to hide considering all of the MPs for all of the other parties voted yes while every Liberal voted no... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: It's called a whataboutism. Hippy is a master at that in defending Trudeau... Liberals are so bad that hippy now calls cons and libs the same. Only a matter of time before Boomer Bob agrees with that. Edited June 7 by bolt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 3 minutes ago, bolt said: Liberals are so bad that hippy now calls cons and libs the same. Only a matter of time before Boomer Bob agrees with that. I'm not sure you meant for that sentence to be funny in the way it really is. (You may have meant for the second sentence to be funny but it's not really) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Satchmo said: I'm not sure you meant for that sentence to be funny in the way it really is. (You may have meant for the second sentence to be funny but it's not really) The only thing an age related jab tells me is that the person making it is a douchenozzle. Edited June 8 by King Heffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 12 minutes ago, King Heffy said: The only thing an age related jab tells me is that the person making it is a douchenozzle. Coming from poster who love to toss out unsolicited insults that's rich... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: Coming from poster who love to toss out unsolicited insults that's rich... Difference is I'm at least civilized enough to not direct them at other posters. Edited June 8 by King Heffy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 58 minutes ago, bolt said: 2 windmills in China makes up for the rest of their pollution. But virtual signalling is better than facts. China is... ah forget it. Everything 'berta is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 57 minutes ago, bolt said: Liberals are so bad that hippy now calls cons and libs the same. Only a matter of time before Boomer Bob agrees with that. Boomer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: Boomer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) 14 hours ago, aGENT said: I don't see how any voting reform leads to less representation? I think a lot of it comes down to the understanding that there's just a lot more people in cities than in more rural areas. It's why most democracies aren't really true democracies as they tend to be regional which kind of goes against the idea that every vote should matter. The populations of voting regions often have differing populations. I would imagine voting changes would be to "fix" that problem. But then, let's say we do try to fix that problem. Again, there are a lot more city people than rural people. City people tend to vote more liberal and to the left. Rural people tend to vote more to the right. That voting overall will likely shift left due to my first sentence. Do you at least see where this could be deemed as a power grab if things change? Whether that's the intention or not, that doesn't matter as that notion WILL be there. As a comparison, think about how you feel about the right wing and their current power grabs in the states. That's how It'll look to the rural people here except it would be the left doing it. Again, doesn't matter the intention, it's still going to seem similar. But, like I said, my opinion is going to be based on what the actual proposed changes would be, but if it ends up being a move that ultimately makes it so conservative factions never get the chance to be in power again... I'm going to be less in favour of that because we need balance. At the end of the day, democracy's not perfect, nor will it ever be. Edited June 8 by The Lock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said: What does something that happened in 2014 have to do with this current allegations? If we ignore the past, we just end up making the same mistakes. The Conservatives aren't exactly going to be angels while the Liberals devils nor is it going to be the other way around. Edited June 8 by The Lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 5 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said: Two Completely Different Situations 10 years Apart This is ridiculous honestly Voting against looking in to foreign interference Cons voted against electoral fairness and improvement These are two parties that have actively voted against protecting or improving our democratic voting process. The fact this is hard for you to understand isn't shocking but your unwillingness to accept that both parties are essentially the same is telling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 4 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: It's called a whataboutism. Hippy is a master at that in defending Trudeau... He says ironically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 hour ago, The Lock said: But, like I said, my opinion is going to be based on what the actual proposed changes would be, but if it ends up being a move that ultimately makes it so conservative factions never get the chance to be in power again... I'm going to be less in favour of that because we need balance. They could still certainly win a minority under election reform, they just are less likely to garner a majority government. (And again, IMO minority governments area truer representation of compromise and democracy) Also, again would be more representative of actual voter intent forb the 2/3-3/4 of the country that consider themselves more progressive. It also might encourage them back to the centre-right instead of courting yahoo right wing fringe crap. All of which are positives by my reckoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 15 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: The Liberals obviously have something to hide considering all of the MPs for all of the other parties voted yes while every Liberal voted no... I read this thread less and less. Posters on here are actually willing to look the other way on a multitude of issues because of political leanings. I have felt for some time that the Liberal Party under Trudeau has threatened Canadian national security. Now a report that sitting MP's have colluded with foreign countries and committed treason in the process. Those individuals should be named no matter the party. If this is not a national crisis then what is? Lack of accountability is destroying our country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 2 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I read this thread less and less. Posters on here are actually willing to look the other way on a multitude of issues because of political leanings. Where are you getting this from? People call out Trudeau all the time in here. 2 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I have felt for some time that the Liberal Party under Trudeau has threatened Canadian national security. Now a report that sitting MP's have colluded with foreign countries and committed treason in the process. Those individuals should be named no matter the party. If this is not a national crisis then what is? Lack of accountability is destroying our country. What if your name dropping comes at the cost of more damage? None of us knows how the intelligence was collected, but you are willing to risk it for what? This situation stinks, but why rush to potentially make it worse? Let the RCMP do their job and bring people to justice the right way . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 8 hours ago, aGENT said: They could still certainly win a minority under election reform, they just are less likely to garner a majority government. (And again, IMO minority governments area truer representation of compromise and democracy) Also, again would be more representative of actual voter intent forb the 2/3-3/4 of the country that consider themselves more progressive. It also might encourage them back to the centre-right instead of courting yahoo right wing fringe crap. All of which are positives by my reckoning. So then you do realise there would be a shift. These are going to be positives for you because you're more left leaning. It's essentially wanting the country and everyone in it to shift towards your direction. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this because I'm really against shifting a country for one's own narrative. I get the frustration with the right these days, but that will change back over time once we're rid of Trump. We don't need voter changes to bring things back to the way things were before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 minute ago, The Lock said: So then you do realise there would be a shift. These are going to be positives for you because you're more left leaning. It's essentially wanting the country and everyone in it to shift towards your direction. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this because I'm really against shifting a country for one's own narrative. I get the frustration with the right these days, but that will change back over time once we're rid of Trump. We don't need voter changes to bring things back to the way things were before. I guess the argument back is, if Canada is consistently 60-65 percent not conservative, why should conservatives have power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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