bolt Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 46 minutes ago, Gurn said: Economy doing ok Inflation coming down Interest rates coming The economy is doing well so their lowering interest rates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 18 minutes ago, bolt said: https://www.ipolitics.ca/news/trudeau-promises-to-do-more-to-fight-wildfires-in-b-c Can you tell us if Trudeau fulfilled this promise? Yes I can, he did. https://www.polimeter.org/en/trudeau/promises/3.05.62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 3 hours ago, the destroyer of worlds said: Tell is again how CONs are good. The Alberta NDP funded. The CONs cut and closed. But PP gonna do better. LOL https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-wildfire-budget-increased-this-season-gets-access-to-2b-contingency-fund-1.6791657 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Yes I can, he did. https://www.polimeter.org/en/trudeau/promises/3.05.62 Would be interesting to see the audit and effectiveness of those contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Just now, bolt said: Would be interesting to see the audit and effectiveness of those contracts. Sure. PP will shit on them without ever reading one page, but sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Sure. PP will shit on them without ever reading one page, but sure Yeah because the Liberals are known to spend money so wisely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 8 minutes ago, bolt said: https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-wildfire-budget-increased-this-season-gets-access-to-2b-contingency-fund-1.6791657 March 2024 budget over the next three years. Can you tell us if Smith has fulfilled this promise? If so, would be interesting to see an audit and effectiveness of any contracts. See how that works? Just once it’d be nice to see you hold any Conservative to the same standard to set for Trudeau. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 4petesake said: March 2024 budget over the next three years. Can you tell us if Smith has fulfilled this promise? If so, would be interesting to see an audit and effectiveness of any contracts. See how that works? Just once it’d be nice to see you hold any Conservative to the same standard to set for Trudeau. Yes they should. Why do you have a problem when people call out our Federal Government? Edited July 25 by bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 29 minutes ago, bolt said: The economy is doing well so their lowering interest rates? Seems like some people don't understand basic economics. They are lowering interest rates because the economy is slowing down, and they want to avoid a recession. Normally, when the economy is doing well you would be INCREASING interest rates... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Seems like some people don't understand basic economics. They are lowering interest rates because the economy is slowing down, and they want to avoid a recession. Normally, when the economy is doing well you would be INCREASING interest rates... Yeah but their self proclaimed experts and have no bias. I have admitted bias for the conservatives but they can't even admit they have bias for the other side. I wonder why? https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/resources/business-law-today/2020-april/everyone-is-a-little-bit-biased/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bolt said: Yeah but their self proclaimed experts and have no bias. I have admitted bias for the conservatives but they can't even admit they have bias for the other side. I wonder why? https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/resources/business-law-today/2020-april/everyone-is-a-little-bit-biased/ It's pretty easy to read the Bank of Canada statement to understand why they are lowering interest rates... He added that weaker retail sales and impending mortgage renewals likely gave the bank impetus to lower rates again. With inflation expected to move closer to the bank's two per cent goal, a slack labour market and economic conditions expected to weaken, its governing council made the decision to lower the interest rate, Macklem said during the news conference. He said those opposing forces — a weak economy pulling inflation down, and shelter prices keeping it up — means a decline in inflation will most likely be gradual, with possible setbacks along the way. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bank-of-canada-july-meeting-1.7273417 That doesn't sound like a growing and robust economy to me... Edited July 25 by Elias Pettersson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 7 minutes ago, bolt said: Yes they should. Why do you have a problem when people call out our Federal Government? Call out the Federal government for that which is a federal responsibility. Calling out the Feds for every story that crosses your path is just ridiculous. Bob answers your question and you doubt the effectiveness of the federal program yet you post about the Alberta government’s program without question or comment, just blindly accept it. Double standards. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 6 hours ago, 4petesake said: Call out the Federal government for that which is a federal responsibility. Calling out the Feds for every story that crosses your path is just ridiculous. Bob answers your question and you doubt the effectiveness of the federal program yet you post about the Alberta government’s program without question or comment, just blindly accept it. Double standards. "Every story" this thread would be thousands of pages long if every Liberal scandal and every issue of ineptness were covered. The Liberals have done a horrible job which seems to trigger you when that is mentioned. If they were doing a good job Liberal MPs wouldn't be resigning on a monthly basis. But yeah you guys have no bias at all. Economy is doing well according to many of you. Edited July 25 by bolt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 8 hours ago, bolt said: Are Provinces responsible for National Parks? Does the Federal Governement bare no responsibility for the destruction of Jasper? Inconvenient truth, say what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 7 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: It's pretty easy to read the Bank of Canada statement to understand why they are lowering interest rates... He added that weaker retail sales and impending mortgage renewals likely gave the bank impetus to lower rates again. With inflation expected to move closer to the bank's two per cent goal, a slack labour market and economic conditions expected to weaken, its governing council made the decision to lower the interest rate, Macklem said during the news conference. He said those opposing forces — a weak economy pulling inflation down, and shelter prices keeping it up — means a decline in inflation will most likely be gradual, with possible setbacks along the way. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bank-of-canada-july-meeting-1.7273417 That doesn't sound like a growing and robust economy to me... I am a fiscal conservative and that is how I look at politics. To me Trudeau has been a disaster since he took government. The standard refrain on these pages is that Trudeau cannot be held accountable for much of the criticism leveled at his. I can agree that few politicians take responsibility for the results of their actions. They perceive doing so as a sign of weakness which might cost votes. I view the role of the CPC in opposition as one of criticizing the ruling Liberal failures. I also consider the CPC role as one of educating voters on conservative philosophy on economics. I don't expect them to layout an election platform 2 years prior to a campaign. I do expect them to promote fiscal responsibility and the tools they would use to achieve better results then the Liberals have. I do not think the NDP should even be in the conversation as their favorite projects are never seriously costed. But, the fact they are, is a CPC failure. The fundamental issues of revenue in and expenditure out does not get addressed much in Canadian politics. Deficit spending is the default process to support 'money out'. What that costs future Canadians receives minimal consideration. Poor explanation by all politicians is faulted but IMO particularly by the CPC who is supposed to be stronger on the fiscal folder. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 30 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Inconvenient truth, say what? If you really wanted to attach blame to the Feds for the wildfire in Jasper you could make the argument that they bought and pushed through TMP rather than letting it fail to the detriment of climate change. Now that would be an inconvenient truth. Meanwhile active and equal partner… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 What concerns me is I was browsing CTV News on Youtube, and I was shocked how many Pro-Trump commentators there were. If it's his American cult members I understand. The problem I have with PP is he has the same strategy as Trump, blame the other guy. I don't see a lot of framework, other than undoing what Trudeau has done. I remember once upon a time the Conservatives were called Progressive Conservatives. I don't see either party, trying to help create sustainable tech jobs, and broadening our economy. We're borderline a 19th Century economy in the 21st Century. We don't manage our forests or resources well. All I see the Conservatives doing is tax breaks for the rich. I'm honestly not happy with any party in Canada. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: What concerns me is I was browsing CTV News on Youtube, and I was shocked how many Pro-Trump commentators there were. If it's his American cult members I understand. The problem I have with PP is he has the same strategy as Trump, blame the other guy. I don't see a lot of framework, other than undoing what Trudeau has done. I remember once upon a time the Conservatives were called Progressive Conservatives. I don't see either party, trying to help create sustainable tech jobs, and broadening our economy. We're bordererline a 19th Century economyrd in the 21st Century. We don't manage our forests or resources well. All I see the Conservatives doing is tax breaks for the rich. I'm honestly not happy with any party in Canada. The Liberals have been putting R&D money into tech research in our major universities. My issue is how well we convert that research to Canada's economic benefit. I am not well enough versed to know but suspect it is stronger than I know. Ramping up tech innovation has often meant moving to Silicon Valley or allowing USA firms to come up and buy the fledgling firms. I am trending towards a more protectionist position. For all the tech promise, which is real, I still think energy is Canada's short term solution to the money in, money out crisis. Energy export can be funded by private capital and would yield tax revenue to all levels of government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 8 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: It's pretty easy to read the Bank of Canada statement to understand why they are lowering interest rates... He added that weaker retail sales and impending mortgage renewals likely gave the bank impetus to lower rates again. With inflation expected to move closer to the bank's two per cent goal, a slack labour market and economic conditions expected to weaken, its governing council made the decision to lower the interest rate, Macklem said during the news conference. He said those opposing forces — a weak economy pulling inflation down, and shelter prices keeping it up — means a decline in inflation will most likely be gradual, with possible setbacks along the way. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bank-of-canada-july-meeting-1.7273417 That doesn't sound like a growing and robust economy to me... Do you think you have more to add than the bank of Canada to the topic? You cherry picking of the article is funny. Edited July 25 by Bob Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 7 minutes ago, Boudrias said: The Liberals have been putting R&D money into tech research in our major universities. My issue is how well we convert that research to Canada's economic benefit. I am not well enough versed to know but suspect it is stronger than I know. Ramping up tech innovation has often meant moving to Silicon Valley or allowing USA firms to come up and buy the fledgling firms. I am trending towards a more protectionist position. We don't have enough Canadian VC funding for the seed tech we develop. If you go more protectionist without more support for Canadian VCs you will choke off funds. 7 minutes ago, Boudrias said: For all the tech promise, which is real, I still think energy is Canada's short term solution to the money in, money out crisis. Energy export can be funded by private capital and would yield tax revenue to all levels of government. We are doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 8 hours ago, bolt said: Yeah because the Liberals are known to spend money so wisely It's like you don't even care about con history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted July 25 Popular Post Share Posted July 25 22 minutes ago, Boudrias said: The Liberals have been putting R&D money into tech research in our major universities. My issue is how well we convert that research to Canada's economic benefit. I am not well enough versed to know but suspect it is stronger than I know. Ramping up tech innovation has often meant moving to Silicon Valley or allowing USA firms to come up and buy the fledgling firms. I am trending towards a more protectionist position. For all the tech promise, which is real, I still think energy is Canada's short term solution to the money in, money out crisis. Energy export can be funded by private capital and would yield tax revenue to all levels of government. I just don't want to see, clearcutting forests, drilling for oil, gas, mining for minerals. Then when it's done there's a huge mess and the companies never pay for it. I want jobs that our kids and grand kids will be well paying, and developing even more jobs. I agree money for innovation should stay in Canada not just someone else's pockets. I just think a diversified economy, is a better balance. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 41 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: What concerns me is I was browsing CTV News on Youtube, and I was shocked how many Pro-Trump commentators there were. If it's his American cult members I understand. The problem I have with PP is he has the same strategy as Trump, blame the other guy. I don't see a lot of framework, other than undoing what Trudeau has done. I remember once upon a time the Conservatives were called Progressive Conservatives. I don't see either party, trying to help create sustainable tech jobs, and broadening our economy. We're borderline a 19th Century economy in the 21st Century. We don't manage our forests or resources well. All I see the Conservatives doing is tax breaks for the rich. I'm honestly not happy with any party in Canada. When the PCs turned into the self pity cult by joining with Manning, it was all over for a sensible centre-right in Canada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: I also consider the CPC role as one of educating voters on conservative philosophy on economics. Boy are you in for a surprise! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: Boy are you in for a surprise! I think it will be an ancient history class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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