RupertKBD Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 40 minutes ago, CaribouCanuck said: I’m curious if anyone here knows how he compares defensively to Ian Cole and Nikita Zadorov, like is he better than either, is he worse? Is he roughly the same?. I doubt that anyone here watched him closely enough to say definitively, but going by stats and the eye test, he makes up for some of the meanness and physicality we lost with Z leaving, but defensively, he's probably a bit worse that Cole was.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: I must be right . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapshot Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 So who plays LD other than Hughes when both Forbort and Soucy are inevitably injured? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: I must be right . Nope he’s played more full or close to full seasons than Tanev, contract will age much MUCH better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapshot said: So who plays LD other than Hughes when both Forbort and Soucy are inevitably injured? Brisebois and FA I would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 minute ago, RupertKBD said: I doubt that anyone here watched him closely enough to say definitively, but going by stats and the eye test, he makes up for some of the meanness and physicality we lost with Z leaving, but defensively, he's probably a bit worse that Cole was.... I think that's pretty accurate. I haven't seen him recently but I remember Foburt filling the bottom role quite well in LA playing behind guys like Doughty, Martinez, Voynov, Muzzin etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 minute ago, CanucksJay said: I think that's pretty accurate. I haven't seen him recently but I remember Foburt filling the bottom role quite well in LA playing behind guys like Doughty, Martinez, Voynov, Muzzin etc I think it's a pretty low risk signing. He's likely penciled in on the 3rd pairing along with Juuls (barring another signing) and I think with Foote and Gonchar coaching him up, the two should be fine playing about 12-15 minutes per night. Both can deliver punishing hits as well....although they likely won't match up very often against the guys you really want to punish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 8 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: I think it's a pretty low risk signing. He's likely penciled in on the 3rd pairing along with Juuls (barring another signing) and I think with Foote and Gonchar coaching him up, the two should be fine playing about 12-15 minutes per night. Both can deliver punishing hits as well....although they likely won't match up very often against the guys you really want to punish. Im worried about a Foburt Juulsen pairing... They are gonna get turnstiled by faster teams and it'll get ugly to watch... What was our starting 6 last season before Zadorov came in? Was Juulsen actually our 6D? If we can swing another Zadorov style trade mid season, great but I'm not holding my breath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks164cup Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Oh you played for Boston last year you're signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: Im worried about a Foburt Juulsen pairing... They are gonna get turnstiled by faster teams and it'll get ugly to watch... What was our starting 6 last season before Zadorov came in? Was Juulsen actually our 6D? If we can swing another Zadorov style trade mid season, great but I'm not holding my breath I think it was Friedman before Z and Cole after Z.... As a 3rd pairing they likely won't be out there against the opponents' top guns very often, so I'm not really all that concerned. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 3 minutes ago, Canucks164cup said: Oh you played for Boston last year you're signed. ....and in Boston, they're saying "Oh you played for Vancouver last year you're signed." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: I think it was Friedman before Z and Cole after Z.... As a 3rd pairing they likely won't be out there against the opponents' top guns very often, so I'm not really all that concerned. On road trips they’ll get targeted / exposed more though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Just now, R3aL said: On road trips they’ll get targeted / exposed more though For sure. It's up to the coaching staff to see that it happens as infrequently as possible. If I'm Foote, I give them 2 directives: Get off the ice ASAP and if you can't get off the ice, hit Dry Saddle et al as hard as you can, as often as you can.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: I think it was Friedman before Z and Cole after Z.... As a 3rd pairing they likely won't be out there against the opponents' top guns very often, so I'm not really all that concerned. Yeah it's not as bad at home when we get the matchups but on icings and road games is where it'll be scary to watch. Ok if Freidman was part of the starting roster that held down first place in the league for months, maybe we're ok after all.... I do think we will add a 4D at some point this season if we look like we are going to do some damage in the playoffs... Guys like Manson were traded at the tdl I think we can pick someone up too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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R3aL Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Just now, RupertKBD said: For sure. It's up to the coaching staff to see that it happens as infrequently as possible. If I'm Foote, I give them 2 directives: Get off the ice ASAP and if you can't get off the ice, hit Dry Saddle et al as hard as you can, as often as you can.... Ya realistically we need a rhd puck mover now on the bottom pairing OR someone who can play top four to put Hronek on another pairing but we will ah W to add a dman I think at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisgruntledNucksFan Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I’m so mad about z . Glad the team is addressing toughness. We lack that . Does this guy play on the right ? Can he protect quinner if required (ala Nashville series) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 22 minutes ago, R3aL said: Ya realistically we need a rhd puck mover now on the bottom pairing OR someone who can play top four to put Hronek on another pairing but we will ah W to add a dman I think at some point Get Boqvuist. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaribouCanuck Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 57 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: I doubt that anyone here watched him closely enough to say definitively, but going by stats and the eye test, he makes up for some of the meanness and physicality we lost with Z leaving, but defensively, he's probably a bit worse that Cole was.... That’s kind of what my gut says, I saw one person on twitter who said that advanced stats/analytics suggested that he was an upgrade on Cole defensively but I obviously can’t base much off just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks164cup Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 31 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: ....and in Boston, they're saying "Oh you played for Vancouver last year you're signed." I guess no sense of humor here today.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 4 minutes ago, Canucks164cup said: I guess no sense of humor here today.... Oh no....I got it... I was just injecting my own.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 3 hours ago, Canuck You said: It's when you follow directions on Google maps and the map keeps flipping upside down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Hughes - Hronek Soucy - Myers Forbott - Juulsen Friedman Look it's not great. We're a top-4 guy down there. 3M in cap space to play with though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 hours ago, Mr Wrong said: His dads a Boston fan. Oh well. We should all forgive him and say welcome to Vancouver! Looks a bit like Bo Horvat.... one wonder.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) Did Allvin say Forbort and Brock are good friends? Edited July 1 by spook007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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