canuck73_3 Posted Monday at 09:02 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:02 PM 1 hour ago, RupertKBD said: I doubt that anyone here watched him closely enough to say definitively, but going by stats and the eye test, he makes up for some of the meanness and physicality we lost with Z leaving, but defensively, he's probably a bit worse that Cole was.... This is about right from what I saw in Boston really liked his game in Winnipeg and LA too. His battles with Höglander were great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted Monday at 10:41 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:41 PM We have big D in Van now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Monday at 11:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:15 PM 34 minutes ago, cripplereh said: We have big D in Van now. and they're slow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted Monday at 11:23 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:23 PM 7 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: and they're slow. they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted Tuesday at 01:11 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:11 AM 2 hours ago, cripplereh said: We have big D in Van now. 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: and they're slow. All that matter is that they do a lot of crushing of V........ancouver's opponents 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted Tuesday at 04:13 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:13 AM Bottom pairing guy who eats up a lot of PK, some folks just wanna fuss. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted Tuesday at 04:37 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:37 AM I remember Deb calling him Fartbox or something when we were playing Winnipeg. Lol Anyways, depth is good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted Tuesday at 05:34 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:34 AM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Tuesday at 06:05 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:05 AM 6 hours ago, Bob Long said: they are? Forbort is not the fleetest of foot is he? Neither is Desharnais? To be honest, I don't know much about the two. I know that they're okay defensively, and they're supposed to help our PK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Tuesday at 06:06 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:06 AM 31 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I hope management resigns him, even if he doesn't hit 40 goals again this coming season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted Tuesday at 06:07 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:07 AM Just now, N4ZZY said: I hope management resigns him, even if he doesn't hit 40 goals again this coming season. They probably do. We can't really afford to lose a top 6 winger. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted Tuesday at 06:09 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:09 AM Just now, N4ZZY said: I hope management resigns him, even if he doesn't hit 40 goals again this coming season. Yup. We were smart with contracts this UFA period. 5.5 AAV to Debrusk keeps the wingers pay ranked good. Brock can be extended and come in at good number for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted Tuesday at 06:13 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:13 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Devron said: I remember Deb calling him Fartbox or something when we were playing Winnipeg. Lol Anyways, depth is good Deb is a legend that keeps growing… kinda like our Big D… oh wait… never mind… Edited Tuesday at 06:14 AM by I.AM.THE.WALRUS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life of a Canuck Posted Tuesday at 06:19 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:19 AM 13 hours ago, Rip The Mesh said: He looks a lot like Bo Horvat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Tuesday at 08:24 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:24 AM 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Yup. We were smart with contracts this UFA period. 5.5 AAV to Debrusk keeps the wingers pay ranked good. Brock can be extended and come in at good number for the club. I think if he falls short of 40 goals, he probably gets 7-7.5m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted Tuesday at 02:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:51 PM 10 hours ago, Devron said: I remember Deb calling him Fartbox or something when we were playing Winnipeg. Lol Anyways, depth is good That tells us that he was a noticeable presence on the ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohthehumanity Posted Tuesday at 02:54 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:54 PM I'm concerned about moving the puck out from our backend. After Hughes and Hronek, the other D parings play was to go glass and out, and then the other team just kept coming back in for more. That really needs to be addressed. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted Tuesday at 03:06 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:06 PM 8 minutes ago, Ohthehumanity said: I'm concerned about moving the puck out from our backend. After Hughes and Hronek, the other D parings play was to go glass and out, and then the other team just kept coming back in for more. That really needs to be addressed. We really need another legit Top 4 Dman; right or left...doesn't matter. I am disappointed it wasn't addressed yesterday in FA...hopefully it will in a trade before Training Camp. I like the Forbort trade for depth, but wasting 2m on Des is just stupid, when we could of had a bonefied Top 4 for 2.5-3m more on a short 3-4year contract. Heck, don't sign either, and you have the guy for 1m more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted Tuesday at 03:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:10 PM I kinda think Alvin believes D Petey will be in the line up opening night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted Tuesday at 03:13 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:13 PM 5 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: We really need another legit Top 4 Dman; right or left...doesn't matter. I am disappointed it wasn't addressed yesterday in FA...hopefully it will in a trade before Training Camp. I like the Forbort trade for depth, but wasting 2m on Des is just stupid, when we could of had a bonefied Top 4 for 2.5-3m more on a short 3-4year contract. Heck, don't sign either, and you have the guy for 1m more! Probably have Hughes & Hronek on different pairings much of the time. Not ideal (especially if you have injuries which are team does seem cursed with) obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted Tuesday at 03:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:20 PM 6 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Probably have Hughes & Hronek on different pairings much of the time. Not ideal (especially if you have injuries which are team does seem cursed with) obviously. Then who plays with Hughes 25 min a night? Myers and Huighes don't gel well...all the other RHD guys don't have great wells. Nux need a Top 4 Dman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted Tuesday at 03:22 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:22 PM Just now, BC_Hawk said: Then who plays with Hughes 25 min a night? Myers and Huighes don't gel well...all the other RHD guys don't have great wells. Nux need a Top 4 Dman. Use two left side D I would guess if that's the case. Flyers used all left side defensemen once & got to the Finals (ok, they had Chris Pronger in his prime at the time heh). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted Tuesday at 04:19 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:19 PM 57 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: Then who plays with Hughes 25 min a night? Myers and Huighes don't gel well...all the other RHD guys don't have great wells. Nux need a Top 4 Dman. Oddly enough, the time that Myers and Hughes played together, they had very good underlying analytics. Small sample size, but there could be something there after Foote/Gonchar have had their time to work with Chaos Giraffe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted Tuesday at 04:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:20 PM 54 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Use two left side D I would guess if that's the case. Flyers used all left side defensemen once & got to the Finals (ok, they had Chris Pronger in his prime at the time heh). We have no options on LHD either. We have two bonifide top 4 guys (Hughes & Hronek) and two very good 3rd pair guys (fringe 2nd pair; Soucy & Myers), and a whole whack of pure bottom pair guys now. There is no one with Top 4 capabilities to play on their proper nor off side. It's simple; Canucks are short one Top 4 Dman (LHD or RHD). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted Tuesday at 04:21 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:21 PM (edited) 20 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Hughes - Hronek Soucy - Myers Forbott - Juulsen Friedman Look it's not great. We're a top-4 guy down there. 3M in cap space to play with though. I am really concerned with this line up. With Soucy and Forbort injury prone and Myers just "Myers Prone", I have some serious doubts. The Zadorov signing was a no brainer, we have now put our toughness in the bottom pairing and we got slower and less skilled. We are becoming to look a lot like the Benning approach in filling our roster with plugs instead of filling specific roles. Sorry but resigning Myers and a couple of 3rd pairing D is not the answer if we are looking at contending or at least, continuing and improving from last year. 1 hour ago, BC_Hawk said: We really need another legit Top 4 Dman; right or left...doesn't matter. I am disappointed it wasn't addressed yesterday in FA...hopefully it will in a trade before Training Camp. I like the Forbort trade for depth, but wasting 2m on Des is just stupid, when we could of had a bonefied Top 4 for 2.5-3m more on a short 3-4year contract. Heck, don't sign either, and you have the guy for 1m more! With the 2m on Des and the 2.5-3m more would have been enough for Zadorov. In a perfect world, this is what I would have done with our dcore: Hughes-UFA/trade Zadorov-Hronek Soucy -UFA/trade/call up Edited Tuesday at 04:22 PM by EdgarM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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