iinatcc Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 13 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: So they should call him "Mini-Z" instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 56 minutes ago, Bob Long said: He lives amongst the chowder heads now. Only positive for him is he's too tall for Marchand to lick his ear. But Brad is short enough to lick something else……. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 10 hours ago, SilentSam said: Good interview, living the dream , going to the team of a player he idolized. See how he lines up , one journalist thought he’d get the chance to play alongside McEvoy (aprx 9:50). Boston Fans have a beauty , never a dull moment, great interviews, and a Boston Style Game . Sure looks like he is going to be a Top 4 Dman in Boston, contrary to some of the experts on this forum who seen him as a 5/6 dman. Not to worry though, we still have Soucy/Myers in our top 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 hour ago, JayDangles said: I think most folks are coming to the realization that it wasn't about money. Despite Zadorovs end of season interviews, he didn't actually want to be here. That’s not true at all. Did you just make that up? The Canucks weren’t offering 6 years. They were willing to go up to $5 million. Zadorov even said in his interview that they got “stuck” on something with the Canucks. It was the 6th year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 I'm just glad that if the big Russian was going to play elsewhere, it's in the East. Have him live rent free on Laff players for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: That’s not true at all. Did you just make that up? The Canucks weren’t offering 6 years. They were willing to go up to $5 million. Zadorov even said in his interview that they got “stuck” on something with the Canucks. It was the 6th year. That sucks. That contract of 6 years takes him to 35 yrs.. nothing wrong with that. I was looking for Trade Clauses on CapF but I think his profile is incomplete on contract details . Edited July 2 by SilentSam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 9 minutes ago, SilentSam said: That sucks. That contract of 6 years takes him to 35 yrs.. nothing wrong with that. I was looking for Trade Clauses on CapF but I think his profile is incomplete on contract details . I think this all came down to Zads wanting to play in Boston. The numbers all seem like it could of worked here if he really wanted it. I'm sour he's gone, but it's his life, his decision and I can respect that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 11 minutes ago, SilentSam said: That sucks. That contract of 6 years takes him to 35 yrs.. nothing wrong with that. I was looking for Trade Clauses on CapF but I think his profile is incomplete on contract details . Nikita Zadorov Contract, Nikita Zadorov Cap Hit, Salary and Stats | Puckpedia NMC Yr 1 thru May 31, 2025; NTC in Yr 2 thru May 31, 2026; 16 Team Trade List in Yr 3 thru May 31, 2027; then 8 Team No Trade List Yrs 4-6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Nikita Zadorov Contract, Nikita Zadorov Cap Hit, Salary and Stats | Puckpedia NMC Yr 1 thru May 31, 2025; NTC in Yr 2 thru May 31, 2026; 16 Team Trade List in Yr 3 thru May 31, 2027; then 8 Team No Trade List Yrs 4-6 that’s a good good contract for both parties. Thanks EP. 6 minutes ago, Rekker said: I think this all came down to Zads wanting to play in Boston. The numbers all seem like it could of worked here if he really wanted it. I'm sour he's gone, but it's his life, his decision and I can respect that. I agree , but if the 6th year was the hitch, any regression in his play could have been safe guarded by those same Clauses. And IF he theoretically goes down to injury / LTIR his 5m number allows for another good contract to come in. I too have nothing but gratitude and respect for Nikita , his game here in the playoffs helped allow our TEAM to experience a deep push and play against aggressive teams . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 21 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: We got 2 Zadorov replacements (bottom pair dmen) for nearly half the cost of Zadorov tidy work done Yep. Great point! We're going to be just fine. We were good before Zad arrived. I'm confident we'll get that true top 4 dman at some point. Management knows the holes. We rebounded well yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 11 minutes ago, SilentSam said: agree , but if the 6th year was the hitch, any regression in his play could have been safe guarded by those This is what bugs me an others. I feel management should of just gone six years and signed the guy. I love him that much. I feel though, that he was going to choose Boston even if all was equal in the end. Just a hunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 23 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: we don’t have the cap for a 5.5 mil bottom pair dman the money was better spent being spread out. Spreading out that money addressed multiple needs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 22 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: That is an overpayment too imo love the player and the fit but $1mill too much Nailed it. Pretty simple. Says it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 minute ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Spreading out that money addressed multiple needs. Not signing Myers or Deharnais would be the 5m. and our D .. Hroneck Hughes Zadorov Soucy Forbert Juulsen .. ect ect Myers does not make what we have any better than that .. except we would have a better D man in Zadorov . 29 yrs in Zad til 35 yrs that contract ages well. Vs 34 yrs in Myers til 38 yrs .. anyway he’s gone . and I’m happy for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 3 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Not signing Myers or Deharnais would be the 5m. and our D .. Hroneck Hughes Zadorov Soucy Forbert Juulsen .. ect ect Myers does not make what we have any better than that .. except we would have a better D man in Zadorov . 29 yrs in Zad til 35 yrs that contract ages well. Vs 34 yrs in Myers til 38 yrs .. anyway he’s gone . and I’m happy for him. They clearly don't view him as a right side option...as a lay man, I would be happy to see him play on the right side with Hughes but I also trust the coaching staff...we'll see if they are right. There also appeared to be worried that it would be laissez-faire Z rather than playoff Z if he signed the big contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: Not signing Myers or Deharnais would be the 5m. and our D .. Hroneck Hughes Zadorov Soucy Forbert Juulsen .. ect ect Myers does not make what we have any better than that .. except we would have a better D man in Zadorov . 29 yrs in Zad til 35 yrs that contract ages well. Vs 34 yrs in Myers til 38 yrs .. anyway he’s gone . and I’m happy for him. We're still retaining size on the blueline. That's a good thing. Didn't think that was going to happen after Zad leaving. Improves our PK as well. We lost but also gained. Could have been much worse. Still need that true top 4 dman. But anyway, yeah, he's gone. Really wish we could have kept him here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 23 hours ago, Coconuts said: Honestly, considering the amount of overpayments out there I'm fine having not gone nuts with our cap space Lot of offseason left for more signings and trades It's refreshing the day after. Will be interesting to see what's to come. Yesterday was another good level of foundation to build up from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 31 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: We're still retaining size on the blueline. That's a good thing. Didn't think that was going to happen after Zad leaving. Improves our PK as well. We lost but also gained. Could have been much worse. Still need that true top 4 dman. But anyway, yeah, he's gone. Really wish we could have kept him here. Willander will be with the Canucks , on the Main Team, just as soon as he decides to leave or finish school. Maybe we see him in another playoff run. .. just my opinion, but I don’t see him in the farm , or if he is , it will be a short stint. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 3 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Willander will be with the Canucks , on the Main Team, just as soon as he decides to leave or finish school. Maybe we see him in another playoff run. .. just my opinion, but I don’t see him in the farm , or if he is , it will be a short stint. I can't wait. He's not that far off. College is the right place for him right now in his development as a player and young man. I agree. Can't see him spending too much time on the farm. His level of talent will be better served on the big club. We just need to keep working on the D during this period so he contribute effectively when he steps in and he's not in over his head. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKSR Posted July 2 Popular Post Share Posted July 2 9 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Willander will be with the Canucks , on the Main Team, just as soon as he decides to leave or finish school. Maybe we see him in another playoff run. .. just my opinion, but I don’t see him in the farm , or if he is , it will be a short stint. He's on a similar trajectory as McAvoy. 2 years college. A few games in the AHL. Then straight into NHL action playing 22min a night. Incredible. IF we get that from Willander, we're making a Finals appearance / winning a Cup. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dr. Crossbar said: We're still retaining size on the blueline. That's a good thing. Didn't think that was going to happen after Zad leaving. Improves our PK as well. We lost but also gained. Could have been much worse. Still need that true top 4 dman. But anyway, yeah, he's gone. Really wish we could have kept him here. I would have rather had Zadorov for 5M and 6 years than Myers at 3 for 3, especially since Wallinder will be coming in and a physical defenseman like Zadorov seems like the perfect partner for him and would have given us options: Hughes- Hronek Zadorov (mobile, physical d-man)- Willander Soucy (Defense/PK specialist)- Depth (Physical) That would have been a good mix of speed, offense, skill, physicality, and defense. I think we'll still need a mobile, physical d-man in our top-4 when Willander comes up, so we're going to be hunting for another Zadorov in the next year or 2. Edited July 2 by c00kies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 minute ago, c00kies said: I would have rather had Zadorov for 5M and 6 years than Myers at 3 for 3, especially since Wallinder will be coming in and a physical defenseman like Zadorov seems like the perfect partner for him and would have given us options: Hughes- Hronek Zadorov (mobile, physical d-man)- Wallinder Soucy (Defense/PK specialist)- Depth (Physical) That would have been a good mix of speed, offense, skill, physicality, and defense. I think we'll still need a mobile, physical d-man in our top-4 when Wallinder comes up, so we're going to be hunting for another Zadorov in the next year or 2. You're not wrong. But I'm also glad we didn't overpay. That's also important after where we've been in overpayments. I also think some of it came down Myers being easier to work with and is more a team first guy. Especially when negotiations hit the wall with Zad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: That’s not true at all. Did you just make that up? The Canucks weren’t offering 6 years. They were willing to go up to $5 million. Zadorov even said in his interview that they got “stuck” on something with the Canucks. It was the 6th year. So, that kind of proves my point. Zadorov didnt want to be here. He was being offered the same amount of money, and one season less, and he chose to leave. He made a choice. Pretty sure if he wanted to stay he would have accepted the offer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakystink Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 At that price and term, I'm ok with what they've done getting the players we have signed. Much rather have several guys with physical aggression and grit who will stand up for eachother and make us a pain in the ass to play against than z doing the majority of that role. They're definately not done yet and there's time to still add and sort the starting day line up. Sad to see him go but it was his choice and he earned that right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 hours ago, EdgarM said: Sure looks like he is going to be a Top 4 Dman in Boston, contrary to some of the experts on this forum who seen him as a 5/6 dman. Not to worry though, we still have Soucy/Myers in our top 4. And some self proclaimed experts here have blinders on because 6’6. our smallest bottom 4 dman is now 6’4 216 collectively the Canucks improved over just one big fish. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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