Elias Pettersson Posted Monday at 06:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:47 PM I can see Debrusk with Miller and Boeser as the line going up against the other teams top line. We are paying Joshua $3.25 million and he just had a breakout year, so let's see if he can take another step. DeBrusk Miller Boeser Joshua Pettersson Lekkerimaki Heinen Blueger Garland Podkolzin Suter Sherwood I think Allvin is hoping that Lekkerimaki makes the jump right away, so he will be the goal scorer for Petey. Joshua can bring the size and physicality on that line. Heinen would be great as a 3rd liner. I think we still need a 4C. I was bummed we didn't get Stenlund. I think Suter and Hoglander both need to be traded IMO. With $3.8 million in cap space including LTIR, don't think we are finished yet. We could still go after a top 4 LHD via a trade as well as a 4C... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacrilage Posted Monday at 06:49 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:49 PM (edited) There's just something about some guys that get bored until the games really matter. It happens in all sports. Guys that during the regular season play so so... you see what they can do but they seem ... bored... Then the playoffs come and they seem to be a different beast entirely. That's ok on a team that will make the playoffs most of the time. Not so much for fringe teams. Let's hope LDB is one of those. Edited Monday at 06:50 PM by Sacrilage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted Monday at 06:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:50 PM 2 minutes ago, Pianoman said: I think Zadorov just didn’t want to take a discount. He never actually said it himself, might have just been a pr thing. It seems pretty sure that Canucks offered at least 4.7 if not more, so clearly he didn’t want to be here any more than Boston I'm thinking money was the same or similar. It was the duration of the contract that tipped the scale for the Bruins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted Monday at 06:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:50 PM 10 minutes ago, Canuck You said: Got a link? NM, Found it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted Monday at 06:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:50 PM 1 minute ago, Pianoman said: I think Zadorov just didn’t want to take a discount. He never actually said it himself, might have just been a pr thing. It seems pretty sure that Canucks offered at least 4.7 if not more, so clearly he didn’t want to be here any more than Boston He said he was willing to take a discount, but only to a certain point. That tells me they were offering less than 4.5mil for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianoman Posted Monday at 06:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:50 PM 10 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: Seems like they ran out of everyone they wanted to sign for a top 6 role and toss out a massive term for a career guy around 40 points Average 2nd line player is 45 points, right around where he is. He is an average 2nd line player in the prime of his career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted Monday at 06:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:51 PM 1 minute ago, Sacrilage said: There's just something about some guys that get bored until the games really matter. It happens in all sports. Guys that during the regular season play so so... yoi see what they can do but they seem ... bored... The the playoffs come and they seem to be a different beast entirely. That's ok on a team that will make the playoffs most of the time. Let's hope LDB is one of those. Elias returning to the 100 point forward he was (and not invisible in the post season) will mean more than any of these free agents (lost or otherwise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted Monday at 06:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:52 PM (edited) 1 minute ago, Pianoman said: Average 2nd line player is 45 points, right around where he is. He is an average 2nd line player in the prime of his career Replaces what they hoped they would have got in Mikheyev basically. They still need to get creative and snag a pure goal scorer though. Skinner on the cheap might not look so bad. Edited Monday at 06:52 PM by DeNiro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianoman Posted Monday at 06:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:52 PM 1 minute ago, JeremyCuddles said: He said he was willing to take a discount, but only to a certain point. That tells me they were offering less than 4.5mil for him. So you believe what he said about the discount, and just ignore all the reports that we offered 4.5m for him initially, and the upwards of 4.7 later? I mean you might be right, but I just think it’s more likely it was much closer and he just chose elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted Monday at 06:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:52 PM 1 hour ago, Jaimito said: Same with Joshua Tocchet got him on track I was kinda thinking the same thing...but much easier to do with a guy making 900K than a guy making $5.5 million IMO We'll see though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted Monday at 06:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:54 PM Just now, Pianoman said: So you believe what he said about the discount, and just ignore all the reports that we offered 4.5m for him initially, and the upwards of 4.7 later? I mean you might be right, but I just think it’s more likely it was much closer and he just chose elsewhere Well, he left for 5mil. So I think it's more likely we lowballed him than offered him near 5mil. Lol. Unless you're suggesting he doesn't like the city or fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted Monday at 06:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:55 PM 7 minutes ago, Pianoman said: I think Zadorov just didn’t want to take a discount. He never actually said it himself, might have just been a pr thing. It seems pretty sure that Canucks offered at least 4.7 if not more, so clearly he didn’t want to be here any more than Boston We didn't offer Zadorov 6 years. That was the issue. If we had offered him 4.75x6 he would have stayed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianoman Posted Monday at 06:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:55 PM Just now, JeremyCuddles said: Well, he left for 5mil. So I think it's more likely we lowballed him than offered him near 5mil. Lol. Unless you're suggesting he doesn't like the city or fans. No no, it’s more that I just think he wasn’t really willing to take a discount as much as we all thought. Oooor we offered similar money but less term, and he really cared about term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted Monday at 06:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:59 PM If we had to overpay, I would have much rather overpaid Zadorov (who was a monster for us in the playoffs) than to overpay Debrusk and then signed a less expensive winger. I don’t know if Debrusk’s consistency issues justify signing him to that kind of money for 7 years. I really hope that I’m wrong. This years playoff run was such a breath of fresh air for this fan base, and I hope we can take another step this coming season. Go Canucks Go! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted Monday at 07:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:01 PM 3 minutes ago, Pianoman said: No no, it’s more that I just think he wasn’t really willing to take a discount as much as we all thought. Oooor we offered similar money but less term, and he really cared about term. They gave 7 years to an unknown in Debrusk. I don't think term was the issue, and I really do think Zadorov would have taken a discount here. But, I guess we'll never truly know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted Monday at 07:02 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:02 PM 1 minute ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: If we had to overpay, I would have much rather overpaid Zadorov (who was a monster for us in the playoffs) than to overpay Debrusk and then signed a less expensive winger. I don’t know if Debrusk’s consistency issues justify signing him to that kind of money for 7 years. I really hope that I’m wrong. This years playoff run was such a breath of fresh air for this fan base, and I hope we can take another step this coming season. Go Canucks Go! Zadorov is inconsistent too. Debrusk was also very good for Boston in the last two playoffs. 17 points in 20 games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneyMiller Posted Monday at 07:02 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:02 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: As much as Petey & the team denies it, I have to believe he was playing with an injury. Just my belief/speculation. I agree it was a mix of at least 1 injury possibly 2 and confidence issues. The proof I saw was his shot and stick handling were never poorer than last season and his speed and stability were visibly worse. As for Petey although I was extremely disappointed in him, I'm also extremely sure that not only will Petey be as good as ever, he'll be better than ever. I also feel that whoever his linemates are I'm thinking DuBrusk, Lekkerimaki... and or someone at the deadline if needed it's a strong possibility he'll fit better this time because it wasn't just his linemates dragging his line down. Edited Monday at 07:04 PM by MoneyMiller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianoman Posted Monday at 07:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:04 PM Just now, JeremyCuddles said: They gave 7 years to an unknown in Debrusk. I don't think term was the issue, and I really do think Zadorov would have taken a discount here. But, I guess we'll never truly know. Debrusk isn’t an unknown though. He has average second line numbers despite missing some time in the last few seasons and minimal pp time, and is in his prime. Personally I really like the signing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted Monday at 07:08 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:08 PM I'm starting to jones this deal. He had 25 and 27 goals previous. His Dad is buddies with Tocchet. Jake will not want to let his Dad down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted Monday at 07:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:09 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks164cup Posted Monday at 07:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:11 PM 500k less than Eriksson and a year longer what could go wrong.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combover Posted Monday at 07:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:12 PM 7 years seems a bit long he should be an improvement in the top 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted Monday at 07:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:12 PM 6 minutes ago, Pianoman said: Debrusk isn’t an unknown though. He has average second line numbers despite missing some time in the last few seasons and minimal pp time, and is in his prime. Personally I really like the signing. He's an unknown from the standpoint we don't know his fit here. And his inconsistency offensively is a touch worrying. But, he did evolve his defensive game last season. At least he isn't as unknown as Mikheyev was before we overpaid him. But I still think we gave up a few too many years on him, but I am hopeful he finds chemistry with Petey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianoman Posted Monday at 07:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:16 PM I was just reading a random article from tsn that was breaking down all the signings, and it said the DeBrusk signing was one of the best ones today. and gave the Lindholm one a C plus and Zadorov a C minus. just one non-Vancouver writer’s opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted Monday at 07:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:19 PM Just now, Pianoman said: I was just reading a random article from tsn that was breaking down all the signings, and it said the DeBrusk signing was one of the best ones today. and gave the Lindholm one a C plus and Zadorov a C minus. just one non-Vancouver writer’s opinion His contract definitely has value based on other contracts, age, and production. It was definitely a smart target. Lindholm at 8 mil is gonna be a risk. But who knows him and Pasta could light it up. Still think we need to raise the ceiling of our top 6 with a pure scorer though. Having Suter and Hoglander as regulars shouldn’t be the goal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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