elvis15 Posted Monday at 10:56 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:56 PM 2 hours ago, zduck14 said: I dont hate this. Of all the Oilers players this is one of the few I didn't mind. Big and tough and his game could take a big step under Foote's coaching. I think that's the hope with Forbort and Desharnais, that Foote and Gonchar can get the best out of them. They're definitely depth guys, and it keeps Myers in the top 4, but they'll be tough to play against. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted Monday at 10:57 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:57 PM 12 minutes ago, Jaimito said: So depth chart is: QH HH Soucy Myers VD juuls Friedman? Hughes Hronek Soucy Myers Forbort Desharnais Friedman Juulsen Pettersson McWard 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Monday at 11:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:05 PM 7 minutes ago, elvis15 said: I think that's the hope with Forbort and Desharnais, that Foote and Gonchar can get the best out of them. They're definitely depth guys, and it keeps Myers in the top 4, but they'll be tough to play against. Fingers crossed. Myers in the top four is not a good move. He flourished in limited minutes. Forbort and Desharnais better not be in the top four, because that's just going to be a disaster. Defense still needs a lot of work, I'm not sure what Allvin and Rutherford's thinking is behind their defense. Another signing or a trade is bound to be in the works right? They still need a top four defenseman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Monday at 11:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:05 PM 7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Hughes Hronek Soucy Myers Forbort Desharnais Friedman Juulsen Pettersson McWard Is that defense core worse than last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted Monday at 11:07 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:07 PM 1 minute ago, N4ZZY said: Is that defense core worse than last year? No, its probably around the same assuming no Myers regression Regular season Cole was probably a better overall defender than Forbort, but Forbort is a true PK specialist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Monday at 11:08 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:08 PM Just now, HarbularyBattery said: No, its probably around the same assuming no Myers regression Regular season Cole was probably a better overall defender than Forbort, but Forbort is a true PK specialist So, we're running it back lol. I wonder what the plan is with the defense. Is this it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted Monday at 11:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:09 PM (edited) Good pick up price but he is no where near Big Z's toughness, speed and skills. He didn't play much during the Stanley Cup final vs Panthers. He didn't play enough speed and wasn't hitting. Hence probably why Oilers didn't want to resign him. And Big Z is a total Playoff built player. But let's hope Tock's can work some magic and get him where he needs to be more effective!!! Edited Monday at 11:10 PM by RolexSub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted Monday at 11:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:10 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Is that defense core worse than last year? Not much different than what we started the year with...except we're missing Riley Stillman & Ian Cole. Now we have Forbort & Desharnais. My Bad....Riley Stillman was 2022-2023 Edited Monday at 11:11 PM by Blitz-Pix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted Monday at 11:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:12 PM Just now, N4ZZY said: Myers in the top four is not a good move. He flourished in limited minutes. Forbort and Desharnais better not be in the top four, because that's just going to be a disaster. Defense still needs a lot of work, I'm not sure what Allvin and Rutherford's thinking is behind their defense. Another signing or a trade is bound to be in the works right? They still need a top four defenseman Soucy I don't mind in our top 4, but Myers is better on the 3rd even if the minutes are spread a little thicker to the bottom. It's ok, but knowing injuries happen I'm not as happy with the depth. Could be worse, so we'll see how the preseason goes for some chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted Monday at 11:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:13 PM 2 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: So, we're running it back lol. I wonder what the plan is with the defense. Is this it? This might be a wait and see. Total cap space including max LTIR usage would be about 3.3m. Either a puck moving defenseman, or a middle-6 20 goal scoring forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted Monday at 11:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:13 PM Was unimpressed with him personally, but Edmonton did have a historically great PK in the playoffs that he was apart of. So there may be some underlying stuff I just missed. Forbort/Desharnais at the very least will be hard to play against. Not sure how good this blueline is at skating, outside of Huggy and Hronek though. So do they try play Desharnais with Huggy for a few? I just don't really understand the allergies to d-men who can skate. Would rather have tried out Boqvist. Oh well. I think the gameplan will be win 2-1 or 3-2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted Monday at 11:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:14 PM Honest answers only how is the skating ability with Desharnais and Forbort? I know they're big and can fight that's definitely the most of what stood out for me when they were playing against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Monday at 11:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:15 PM Just now, HarbularyBattery said: This might be a wait and see. Total cap space including max LTIR usage would be about 3.3m. Either a puck moving defenseman, or a middle-6 20 goal scoring forward well, i'm not sure how management is going to secure a puck moving defenseman for 3.3m or less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Monday at 11:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:15 PM Just now, Rick_theRyper said: Honest answers only how is the skating ability with Desharnais and Forbort? I know they're big and can fight that's definitely the most of what stood out for me when they were playing against us. i don't know, honestly, but they don't strike me as fast players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted Monday at 11:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:15 PM 2 hours ago, HKSR said: As the dust has begun to settle, we are looking just as strong as last year. The TDL will be very interesting as we will likely add more firepower. Yep. Agree. Way too much crying. All address needs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted Monday at 11:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:16 PM Just now, N4ZZY said: well, i'm not sure how management is going to secure a puck moving defenseman for 3.3m or less. Trade, Trade + retention, and believe it or not there are still some UFA options, and they might end up much more affordable as teams continue to spend all their remaining $ I was a huge fan of how they got Suter on such a bargain by just waiting it out and having money to spend when everyone else had shot their wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted Monday at 11:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:17 PM 2 minutes ago, Rick_theRyper said: Honest answers only how is the skating ability with Desharnais and Forbort? I know they're big and can fight that's definitely the most of what stood out for me when they were playing against us. Forbort is slow, Desharnais is not fast but hes not slow either. The reason I dont like Desharnais is the times i saw him get walked (gap control) and a couple of truly egregious turnovers. But if Foote and Gonchar could fix Myers... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted Monday at 11:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:20 PM 4 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: well, i'm not sure how management is going to secure a puck moving defenseman for 3.3m or less. Justin Schultz. I guarantee management has called him up. They’re very familiar with this player and he’s a local guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted Monday at 11:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:20 PM Just imagine if we had Big Z with Desharnais, Myers, and Soucy...we would have the toughest and biggest D in the NHL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted Monday at 11:21 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:21 PM 3 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: i don't know, honestly, but they don't strike me as fast players. Exactly what worries me. But we will see. I don't remember much of forbort but being a bottom guy tough will fight. Desharnais seem to be a good addition to Edmontons D, watched him a bit during Edm and Florida. But didnt stand out much really seemed solid but slow and big gets burned nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted Monday at 11:23 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:23 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: This is why I laugh at the overreacting every year. I got thrown the same shit last season for being level headed into FA and we had our best season in over a decade. Still not concerned despite the whining and shit throwing today. This is a well balanced lineup and man are Heinen and DeBrusk ever a pain in the dick to play against. Ask Höglander about Forborts battles too. Exactly this. Agree wholeheartedly. Beyond the usual emotional overreactions, this was a good day and good rebound by management to address our needs. A good, methodical, restrained and precise approach by management. Not flashy but improvements were made. And I'm confident Desharnais will get better under Foote and Gonchar in the same way Myers did. Edited Tuesday at 12:05 AM by Dr. Crossbar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gawdzukes Posted Monday at 11:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:30 PM 6 minutes ago, RolexSub said: Just imagine if we had Big Z with Desharnais, Myers, and Soucy...we would have the toughest and biggest D in the NHL!! Forbort only 2 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter, and Desharnais is huge. 6'7 235. We are bigger than last year overall. Not a big difference without Z to be honest. Good move by Allvin and Co. That contract for Z is not going to age well and we'll see how effective he even is in Boston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted Monday at 11:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:37 PM 2 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Forbort only 2 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter, and Desharnais is huge. 6'7 235. We are bigger than last year overall. Not a big difference without Z to be honest. Good move by Allvin and Co. That contract for Z is not going to age well and we'll see how effective he even is in Boston. Just one thing to bear in mind Big Z was pretty good at skating the puck out, and he was the only defenseman in our bottom-4 who had any kind of puck moving ability Forbort and Desharnais have none So I'm hoping we can use whatever remaining cap space we have to get someone like Kylington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted Monday at 11:41 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:41 PM Another thing that I'm looking at is the fact that Desharnais learned a lot from Coffey in Edmonton. Now he'll be learning from Foote and Gonchar. That's gold for any Dman. Foote and Gonchar will help him be more physical without being a liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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