CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 I dont mind Desharnais...but im certainly concerned about the puck moving ability of our dcore outside of Hughes. Soucy-Myers Forbert-Desharnais. great size, but very concerned about the skating and ability to move the puck up ice to our forwards. Not sure this was the right move after you got Forbort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 hour ago, DexM94 said: we have a blatant hole in the top 6, and still some cap space. no way Allvin is done. Guess we'll see what the man's got up his sleeve. I still think the defense needs some work, no way he could be done there, could he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 27 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: I dont mind Desharnais...but im certainly concerned about the puck moving ability of our dcore outside of Hughes. Soucy-Myers Forbert-Desharnais. great size, but very concerned about the skating and ability to move the puck up ice to our forwards. Not sure this was the right move after you got Forbort. Might have to go to the bargain bin for some puck moving help. What about Bovqist or Brannstrom? Those guys are still relatively young, seems like their clubs haven't given up on them, maybe in the right system (Tocchet's system), they could thrive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Guess we'll see what the man's got up his sleeve. I still think the defense needs some work, no way he could be done there, could he? which of the 8 nhl defencemen they have already do you expect to get pushed out? they just re-signed friedman and they seem to love juulsen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whorvat Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 5 minutes ago, tas said: which of the 8 nhl defencemen they have already do you expect to get pushed out? they just re-signed friedman and they seem to love juulsen. I can see both Forbort and Friedman being sent to AHL at points this season. IMO theres room for another dman Edited July 2 by Whorvat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 The opening night lineup should still contend for the best team in the pacific division. Add some rentals later on and the Canucks are in the drivers seat . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 8 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Yeah, I'm curious as well. Guess we'll see soon enough. Is Allvin done for the summer, though? Or is there some more tweaking to be done roster wise? Ideally we find a way to either add a top 4D or another scoring winger imo, we do have some space Could even see ourselves shipping someone out, but the only larger contract that really makes sense in that sense is Garland and we probably need him stirring the drink on the third line Right now we're still banking on Hoglander taking a step forward in the top six again, and on playing one of Suter or Heinen in the top six, and we're banking on Myers to play top 4 minutes (which is largely did last season, so maybe not the end of the world) Edited July 2 by Coconuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madskillz Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 9 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: I dont mind Desharnais...but im certainly concerned about the puck moving ability of our dcore outside of Hughes. Soucy-Myers Forbert-Desharnais. great size, but very concerned about the skating and ability to move the puck up ice to our forwards. Not sure this was the right move after you got Forbort. Matching up fwds and d lines when u got our 3rd pairing they will play with 3rd or 4th line fwds and with Hughes and Hronek will usually be playing with the top 2 fwd lines to generate max offense. I think management by doing this is giving other guys a chance to take these guys spot where as we signed bigger contract those players will need their spots to secure, with these 2 small signing who knows what players in the system will step up, if not will trade to upgrade nothing to sweat about season hasn't even began and we left some cap space say 3 mil and by midway thru season it will become 4+ mill and if we trade a roster spot can get someone 5-6 mil and probably signed to good deal with some terms. Good patient move by management giving younger guys a chance to show or will make a trade for what we need. Pods, Hogs, Suter, Karlsson and Garland could all be moving parts to make trades. Their will be injuries during the season so their will be some extra cap by the deadline. Edited July 2 by Madskillz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madskillz Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Coconuts said: Ideally we find a way to either add a top 4D or another scoring winger imo, we do have some space Could even see ourselves shipping someone out, but the only larger contract that really makes sense in that sense is Garland and we probably need him stirring the drink on the third line Right now we're still banking on Hoglander taking a step forward in the top six again, and on playing one of Suter or Heinen in the top six, and we're banking on Myers to play top 4 minutes (which is largely did last season, so maybe not the end of the world) Hogs is skilled just lacking abit of IQ which can be improved or be a trade chip before deadline. Myers last season had huge improvements in defensive awareness and picking his spots to rush the puck was alot better, his skating will not drop and if he continues to learn his positioning and decision making he could look like a 5 mil dollar man and we got our top pairing to eat up most of the mins every game, he's good for 18-22 min a game against the right matchups. Myers has days where he wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and goes to the game trying to hurt players we need that nasty side of his more now with big Z gone. Edited July 2 by Madskillz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 10 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: I dont mind Desharnais...but im certainly concerned about the puck moving ability of our dcore outside of Hughes. Soucy-Myers Forbert-Desharnais. great size, but very concerned about the skating and ability to move the puck up ice to our forwards. Not sure this was the right move after you got Forbort. This was a good rebound by management. I think Foote and Gonchar will be able to help him management his limitations and help leverage his size and talents in other areas. Will be interesting to see their influence on his game. I think it will be a big positive for him. Plus that and what he learned from Coffey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 10 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: I dont mind Desharnais...but im certainly concerned about the puck moving ability of our dcore outside of Hughes. Soucy-Myers Forbert-Desharnais. great size, but very concerned about the skating and ability to move the puck up ice to our forwards. Not sure this was the right move after you got Forbort. does Soucy - Desharnais Forbot - Myers look better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bh90 said: does Soucy - Desharnais Forbot - Myers look better? Probably both could work but Soucy was a large reason Myers looked so good. Myers and Zadorov were absolutely horrible together as they both have low hockey IQ. Forbort is a lot more consistent defensively though, so it's an option I think, and one that may pay dividends. Although we'll have to see how many more minutes Desharnais can handle. I typically don't like too many dmen that are overly big and have natural mobility issues. However that's our MO now, and I'm warming up to Desharnais. They obviously think he can handle more and I did like his game in the playoffs and end of the year. Edited July 2 by Gawdzukes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bh90 Posted July 2 Popular Post Share Posted July 2 1 minute ago, Gawdzukes said: Probably both could work but Soucy was a large reason Myers looked so good. Myers and Zadorov were absolutely horrible together as they both have low hockey IQ. Forbort is a lot more consistent defensively though, so it's an option I think, and one that may pay dividends. Although we'll have to see how many more minutes Desharnais can handle. good points the only thing i'm certain off is that we probably won't see Forbot and Desharnais together on the same pair because there's a lack of offense there PA's been hinting it about splitting up Hughes/Hronek and Tocc mentioned that for next year he wants to work on the D being more active and joining the rush. I think the top 3 D (Hughes, Hronek, Soucy) will start off by leading their own pair and Desharnais, Forbot, Juulsen, Myers will fit in where they are best suited. I think Hughes - Desharnais should be tried out for sure. We'll never know if it works unless they give it a shot 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2 minutes ago, bh90 said: good points the only thing i'm certain off is that we probably won't see Forbot and Desharnais together on the same pair because there's a lack of offense there PA's been hinting it about splitting up Hughes/Hronek and Tocc mentioned that for next year he wants to work on the D being more active and joining the rush. I think the top 3 D (Hughes, Hronek, Soucy) will start off by leading their own pair and Desharnais, Forbot, Juulsen, Myers will fit in where they are best suited. I think Hughes - Desharnais should be tried out for sure. We'll never know if it works unless they give it a shot im sure theyll try it i was combing through old player discussions on him by oilers fans and i must say im appreciating this signing more they have lots of love for his extreme work ethic, gratitude, stays late to work with coaches, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 14 minutes ago, bh90 said: good points the only thing i'm certain off is that we probably won't see Forbot and Desharnais together on the same pair because there's a lack of offense there PA's been hinting it about splitting up Hughes/Hronek and Tocc mentioned that for next year he wants to work on the D being more active and joining the rush. I think the top 3 D (Hughes, Hronek, Soucy) will start off by leading their own pair and Desharnais, Forbot, Juulsen, Myers will fit in where they are best suited. I think Hughes - Desharnais should be tried out for sure. We'll never know if it works unless they give it a shot Also very good points ... I'm all for trying Desharnais with Hughes who can maybe make up for a lack of footspeed. As long as Desharnais can play the puck efficiently and not limit #43's effectiveness. However, I doubt he can keep up to Hughes minute wise so that becomes a slight problem. Hughes played 24:41 toi last year, and Desharnais 15:41. Not to disagree per se but I feel we will see a Forbort Desharnais pairing quite likely, playing low 5v5 minutes, and tonnes of PK. Similar to Lindholm playing 3rd line center I think RT will feel he has little choice in the end but to go back to Hughes Hronek as a fulltime pairing as Myers is horrible with Hughes. As @HarbularyBattery mentioned I am more and more happy with the Desharnais signing the more I look into it. Definitely looks to have some upside and is just progressing a little later than most. Edited July 2 by Gawdzukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 6 hours ago, Whorvat said: I can see both Forbort and Friedman being sent to AHL at points this season. IMO theres room for another dman We are one post the better teams now so risking losing our depth on waivers is a possibility. What is the waiver exemption for salary where cap is freed up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 hours ago, Coconuts said: Ideally we find a way to either add a top 4D or another scoring winger imo, we do have some space Could even see ourselves shipping someone out, but the only larger contract that really makes sense in that sense is Garland and we probably need him stirring the drink on the third line Right now we're still banking on Hoglander taking a step forward in the top six again, and on playing one of Suter or Heinen in the top six, and we're banking on Myers to play top 4 minutes (which is largely did last season, so maybe not the end of the world) I wouldn't be surprised to see Lekkerimaki and Podkolzin get the chance to battle for that spot in camp, with a trade if it becomes clear neither can handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 8 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I wouldn't be surprised to see Lekkerimaki and Podkolzin get the chance to battle for that spot in camp, with a trade if it becomes clear neither can handle it. Maybe, but if an opportunity arises beforehand I think management might do something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 11 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: I dont mind Desharnais...but im certainly concerned about the puck moving ability of our dcore outside of Hughes. Soucy-Myers Forbert-Desharnais. great size, but very concerned about the skating and ability to move the puck up ice to our forwards. Not sure this was the right move after you got Forbort. I like Soucy as someone who can move the puck. But outside of him, Hughes and Hronek, I share the same concerns. I'll be very interested to see if Willander can step into the lineup once his season at BU concludes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 18 hours ago, HKSR said: Miller or Petey are good PK centres too Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IBatch Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 58 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I wouldn't be surprised to see Lekkerimaki and Podkolzin get the chance to battle for that spot in camp, with a trade if it becomes clear neither can handle it. What you need to think of, is that who's going to stay. Podz or Hogs. We won't have space for both. Lekkermaki is the chosen one now. The rest of the roster is filled out. So well you nailed it. One is going. Won't be Lekkermaki though. Edited July 2 by IBatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RakuRaku Posted July 2 Popular Post Share Posted July 2 Wowwww after seeing some videos of Desharnais' fights... I'm starting to love this signing more & more.... Yeah sure, $2M is a bit rich but when was the last time the Canucks got a nasty fighter since Brashear??? I have been soooooooooo sick and tired of seeing our guys get bullied and pummeled all the frigging time!!!!!!!!!! Not that winning fights will help us win games but it does matter!!! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs and Podz Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2 hours ago, IBatch said: Podz or Hogs. We won't have space for both I ain't goin' no wheres!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 3 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: Probably both could work but Soucy was a large reason Myers looked so good. Myers and Zadorov were absolutely horrible together as they both have low hockey IQ. Forbort is a lot more consistent defensively though, so it's an option I think, and one that may pay dividends. Although we'll have to see how many more minutes Desharnais can handle. I typically don't like too many dmen that are overly big and have natural mobility issues. However that's our MO now, and I'm warming up to Desharnais. They obviously think he can handle more and I did like his game in the playoffs and end of the year. this is the new trainable Myers tho, so we're not trying to go from full chaos to last years guy. We have to try separating Soucy and Myers I think. I don't think anyone saw Foote having as much impact on Myers as what we saw, so maybe refurbishing giant d men is his wheelhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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