4petesake Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, the destroyer of worlds said: I'd love to know when the last below average temp year occurred. It's likely been a while. I mean, dec 2023 average Temps in most of the US were well above "normal". Nope, Climate change is a hoax. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 12/28/2023 at 1:01 PM, 5forFighting said: https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/icbc-scraps-2022-electric-car-after-owners-faced-with-60000-bill-to-replace-damaged-battery-8015038 On 12/29/2023 at 1:07 PM, 4petesake said: You’re not wrong. I think @aGENT referred to “right to repair “ laws earlier. We need to keep pushing for this. https://autos.yahoo.com/autos/mechanics-repairing-broken-ev-batteries-223000322.html Like I said, this seems more like a right to repair/bad corporate citizen issue than a battery cost issue. These batteries are repairable, and for far less than the cost of the entire original vehicle, brand new. We need to hold corporations (and not just EVs... Appliances, mobiles etc) more accountable for what they manufacture and not just allow them to pass the buck on to consumers and the environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, aGENT said: https://autos.yahoo.com/autos/mechanics-repairing-broken-ev-batteries-223000322.html Like I said, this seems more like a right to repair/bad corporate citizen issue than a battery cost issue. These batteries are repairable, and for far less than the cost of the entire original vehicle, brand new. We need to hold corporations (and not just EVs... Appliances, mobiles etc) more accountable for what they manufacture and not just allow them to pass the buck on to consumers and the environment. This part is laughable to anyone who has been paying attention. This is about $$$. There are smaller companies that I believe want to be accountable but these large entities do not. They are about shareholders and bottom lines. If they fooled, that is sad. They are not looking out for you, the environment etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) On 1/3/2024 at 10:13 AM, 5forFighting said: This part is laughable to anyone who has been paying attention. This is about $$$. There are smaller companies that I believe want to be accountable but these large entities do not. They are about shareholders and bottom lines. If they fooled, that is sad. They are not looking out for you, the environment etc. I'm well aware of what this is "about". Nobody has "fooled" me. Governments (we, the people) need to actually use said government, laws etc to balance this out. People have gotten fat, lazy and forgotten who actually has the power, while letting the wealthy and their corporations lead us around by our privates. If people want to stop the economic race to the bottom and the corresponding environmental issues, they're going to have to do it with our wallets, votes and some actual, hard, meaningful actions. Unfortunately, given how many people are addicted to cheap crap, consumerism etc...I don't like our chances. Edited January 5 by aGENT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Great Lakes start 2024 with smallest amount of ice in at least 50 years https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/other/great-lakes-start-2024-with-smallest-amount-of-ice-in-at-least-50-years/ar-AA1mn8rk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 hours ago, aGENT said: I'm well aware of what this is "about". Nobody has "fooled" me. Governments (we, the people) need to actually use said government, laws etc to balance this out. People have gotten fat, lazy and forgotten who actually has the power, while letting the wealthy and their corporations lead us around by our privates. If people want to stop the economic race to the bottom and the corresponding environmental issues, they're going to have to do it with our wallets, votes and some actual, hard, meaningful actions. Unfortunately, given how many people are to cheap crap, consumerism etc...I don't like our chances. The governments that you mention (we the people) no longer exist. It's about pandering and money laundering. Many of them are setting themselves up for jobs with other organizations after they leave (or are ousted) see Jacinda Ardern and others. People should not rely on governments anymore. They do not represent the people they were elected to. They represent their own self interests. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 11 minutes ago, 5forFighting said: The governments that you mention (we the people) no longer exist. It's about pandering and money laundering. Many of them are setting themselves up for jobs with other organizations after they leave (or are ousted) see Jacinda Ardern and others. People should not rely on governments anymore. They do not represent the people they were elected to. They represent their own self interests. OK what do you suggest we replace them with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 12 minutes ago, 5forFighting said: The governments that you mention (we the people) no longer exist. It's about pandering and money laundering. Many of them are setting themselves up for jobs with other organizations after they leave (or are ousted) see Jacinda Ardern and others. People should not rely on governments anymore. They do not represent the people they were elected to. They represent their own self interests. No, the answer is to take them back. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, aGENT said: No, the answer is to take them back. Yep. Get off our lazy hineys and participate in it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted January 3 Popular Post Share Posted January 3 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Yep. Get off our lazy hineys and participate in it. The hardest part is changing buying habits. People need to stop being addicted to cheap, low quality crap. Including (maybe especially) our food. Buying less of, but higher quality things, from companies that don't treat their workers, or the planet poorly, would go a LONG way to reversing a good chunk of our problems. Economic, climate etc. Edited January 3 by aGENT 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, aGENT said: The hardest part is changing buying habits. People need to stop being addicted to cheap, low quality crap. Including (maybe especially) our food. Buying less of, but higher quality things, from companies that don't treat their workers poorly, would go a LONG way to reversing a good chunk of our problems. Economic, climate etc. Or anarchists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, aGENT said: The hardest part is changing buying habits. People need to stop being addicted to cheap, low quality crap. Including (maybe especially) our food. Buying less of, but higher quality things, from companies that don't treat their workers, or the planet poorly, would go a LONG way to reversing a good chunk of our problems. Economic, climate etc. I'd vote for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: Or anarchists. I miss that canuckle kid that you used to grapple with. He would have been a fun read in the last few pages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 33 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: I miss that canuckle kid that you used to grapple with. He would have been a fun read in the last few pages.i It was all in good fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) Found this article interesting. Hesitated to post it because I thought all you Vancouverites would already know all about it. Here it is for the rest of us. The Canadian neighbourhood heated by sewage https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240103-sewage-a-low-cost-low-carbon-way-to-warm-homes Edited January 4 by Satchmo 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 1/3/2024 at 2:25 PM, Bob Long said: OK what do you suggest we replace them with? Do you mean who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 22 hours ago, Satchmo said: Found this article interesting. Hesitated to post it because I thought all you Vancouverites would already know all about it. Here it is for the rest of us. The Canadian neighbourhood heated by sewage https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240103-sewage-a-low-cost-low-carbon-way-to-warm-homes Shitty idea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 22 hours ago, Satchmo said: Found this article interesting. Hesitated to post it because I thought all you Vancouverites would already know all about it. Here it is for the rest of us. The Canadian neighbourhood heated by sewage https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240103-sewage-a-low-cost-low-carbon-way-to-warm-homes They would need AC in Ottawa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 41 minutes ago, 5forFighting said: Do you mean who? No, I mean what. We have a great working democracy and bureaucracy that keeps it all working. People like to claim our government is broken but it actually works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 22 hours ago, Satchmo said: Found this article interesting. Hesitated to post it because I thought all you Vancouverites would already know all about it. Here it is for the rest of us. The Canadian neighbourhood heated by sewage https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240103-sewage-a-low-cost-low-carbon-way-to-warm-homes I found part of the article annoying because they initially characterized the process as using "renewable energy", when in fact (and not sure if they consciously or unconsciously corrected themselves later in the article) the process is actually "capturing" or "repurposing" what would otherwise be lost as wasted heat. "Renewables" is a very specific scientific term, and shouldn't be bandied about in a waste recapture context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooks Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 1/1/2024 at 2:20 PM, aGENT said: Straight from Cambridge dictionary @Nooks: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sunset-industry sunset industry noun [ C ] FINANCE & ECONOMICS specializedUK /ˌsʌn.set ˈɪn.də.stri/ US /ˌsʌn.set ˈɪn.də.stri/ Add to word list an industry that has existed for a long time and that is less successful and making less profit than previously: Steel and shipbuilding were designated as sunset industries. Fewer examples Oil and gas extraction, despite its importance to the economy, is seen as a "sunset industry" in the United States. Shell set its highest profit EVER in its 115 year history in 2022. So did Exxon. So did BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 13 minutes ago, Nooks said: Shell set its highest profit EVER in its 115 year history in 2022. So did Exxon. So did BP. There's countless examples of corporations making record profits at the expense of the populace presently. Doesn't mean it's not a sunset industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I'd like to see a graph of new oil deposit discoveries...that would help show why oil is a sunset industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) https://www.msn.com/en-ca/weather/topstories/2023-among-worst-years-for-insured-weather-damage-how-much-did-it-cost/ar-AA1mEuqm?bncnt=BroadcastNews_TopStories&ocid=msedgdhp&FORM=BNC001&pc=U531&cvid=afcd44030419406dbef38f89798c3276&ei=59 " Last year ranks among the top five worst years on record in insured damage from extreme weather events, the Insurance Bureau of Canada (IBC) says. In fact, 2023 was the fourth-worst year ever for insured losses from severe weather in Canada, the IBC said in a news release Monday. In total, extreme weather events resulted in more than $3.1 billion last year — the second year in a row Canada exceeded $3 billion in insured damage from severe weather. -------------------------------------------------------- " With 2023 ranked fourth in the worst years for extreme weather insurance claims, here are the others than make up the top five: 2016: $5.96 billion in damage, mostly due to Fort McMurray wildfire, makes it worst year on record 2013: $3.87 billion due to multiple floods and the ice story in the Greater Toronto Area 2022: $3.4 billion due to multiple events 1998: $2.83 billion, heightened by the Quebec ice story “With today’s extreme weather events, insured catastrophic losses in Canada now routinely exceed $2 billion annually, and most of it is due to water-related damage,” the IBC said. Edited January 9 by Gurn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/markets/panama-canal-drought-forces-maersk-to-start-using-land-bridge-for-oceania-cargo/ar-AA1mPyNz?ocid=00000000&pc=U531&cvid=787e67d0977741068753c872320f8d47&ei=7 The Panama Canal drought conditions have led shipping giant Maersk to inform clients this week that vessels with freight from Oceania (Australia and New Zealand) will no longer traverse the canal because of the ongoing low water levels. Maersk will be servicing the client's containers by using a "land bridge." -------------------------------- In an advisory to clients, Maersk informed shipping customers that vessels that use the Panama Canal will no longer be traversing the canal with freight from Oceania (Australia and New Zealand) because of the ongoing water situation. The latest water level issues for the canal come as it is expected to receive additional vessel traffic as ocean carriers avoid the Red Sea due to the ongoing Houthi attack risk. Forty percent of all U.S. container traffic travels through the Panama Canal every year, which in all, moves roughly $270 billion in cargo annually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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