Climate Change Thread

[UnkNuk]

On 2/27/2024 at 3:52 PM, UnkNuk said:

China’s Electric Vehicles Are Going to Hit Detroit Like a Wrecking Ball

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/27/opinion/gm-ford-electric-vehicles.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Yk0.kV8Z.DTBzmNCOsIoT&smid=url-share

 

And in response:

 

Biden Calls Chinese Electric Vehicles a Security Threat

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/us/politics/biden-chinese-electric-vehicles.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZU0.G9T_.9K_abETIU4l1&smid=url-share

[Spur1]

10 minutes ago, UnkNuk said:

 

And in response:

 

Biden Calls Chinese Electric Vehicles a Security Threat

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/us/politics/biden-chinese-electric-vehicles.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZU0.G9T_.9K_abETIU4l1&smid=url-share

Just a Trump stalling tactic. 

[UnkNuk]

It's the middle of winter, and more than 100 wildfires are still smouldering

 

Dry weather after record-breaking summer season has kept fires going in Western Canada

 

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/weather/severe/its-the-middle-of-winter-and-more-than-100-wildfires-are-still-smouldering

[Spur1]

2 minutes ago, UnkNuk said:

It's the middle of winter, and more than 100 wildfires are still smouldering

 

Dry weather after record-breaking summer season has kept fires going in Western Canada

 

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/weather/severe/its-the-middle-of-winter-and-more-than-100-wildfires-are-still-smouldering

Can we somehow capture the heat 

[UnkNuk]

‘They lied’: plastics producers deceived public about recycling, report reveals

 

Companies knew for decades recycling was not viable but promoted it regardless, Center for Climate Integrity study finds

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/15/recycling-plastics-producers-report?utm_term=65d738703b7eedbf621e439f80513337&utm_campaign=DownToEarth&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=greenlight_email

[UnkNuk]

4 minutes ago, Spur1 said:

Can we somehow capture the heat 

 

I have to admire how you can put a positive spin on things, Spur.    

[Spur1]

There is always a bright side, not always easy to find. 

[UnkNuk]

Earth just experience its hottest 12 months in recorded history

 

January has already broken temperature records, starting this year off on-course to break the global records set in 2023.

 

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/climate/impacts/january-2024-hottest-on-record-tops-warmest-12-month-period-in-history

[Spur1]

6 minutes ago, UnkNuk said:

Earth just experience its hottest 12 months in recorded history

 

January has already broken temperature records, starting this year off on-course to break the global records set in 2023.

 

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/en/news/climate/impacts/january-2024-hottest-on-record-tops-warmest-12-month-period-in-history

Unfortunately just the beginning. 

[RupertKBD]

10 hours ago, Spur1 said:

There is always a bright side, not always easy to find. 

 

[Joshrips]

On 2/28/2024 at 4:06 PM, RupertKBD said:

Meanwhile Texas is currently dealing with the 2nd largest wildfire in the state's history. Currently about half a million acres have burned in the northern part of Texas, sometimes referred to as the "panhandle".

 

Amarillo is the largest city in the area, at roughly the same latitude as Oklahoma City to the east and Albuquerque to the west:

 

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/massive-wildfire-burns-homes-explodes-into-2nd-largest-in-texas-history/1626086

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/03/01/heads-up-media-texas-wildfires-have-nothing-to-do-with-climate-change/

[Dumb Nuck]

In the last 100 years the rungs on ladders have been getting further and further apart. This is due to average height steadily increasing.

 

This is absolute proof of climb it change.

[Satchmo]

9 hours ago, Joshrips said:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/03/01/heads-up-media-texas-wildfires-have-nothing-to-do-with-climate-change/

The author of the piece you linked is a tv weatherman.  Not only that, he is a senior fellow for environment and climate at The Heartland Institute.  Has  he also convinced you that cigarettes are good for you?

 

The Heartland Institute is an American conservative and libertarian public policy think tank known for its rejection of both the scientific consensus on climate change and the negative health impacts of smoking.[2]

Founded in 1984, it worked with tobacco company Philip Morris throughout the 1990s to attempt to discredit the health risks of secondhand smoke and lobby against smoking bans.[3]: 233–234 [4] Since the 2000s, the Heartland Institute has been a leading promoter of climate change denial.[5][6]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute

Edited March 2 by Satchmo

[RupertKBD]

11 hours ago, Joshrips said:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/03/01/heads-up-media-texas-wildfires-have-nothing-to-do-with-climate-change/

 

Yeah, try again:

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/watts-up-with-that/

 

[Gurn]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/weather/topstories/california-and-nevada-are-battered-monster-life-threatening-blizzard-with-145mph-winds-and-tornado-warnings-forcing-ski-resorts-to-shut-amid-avalanche-fears/ar-BB1jcwTc?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f3608e34498444219fe65ca1740dbaf6&ei=33

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California authorities shut down 100 miles of Interstate 80 on Friday as the biggest snow storm of the season bore down on the Sierra Nevada. 

Residents were urged to take shelter and stay off roads as they prepared for up to 10 feet of snow in some areas and damaging winds up to 145mph.

'AAANNNDD WE'RE CLOSED!!' the California Highway Patrol posted on X, saying the closure was due to 'spin outs, high winds, and low visibility. No estimated time of reopening the freeway.'

Authorities closed the interstate in both directions after 5pm on a day when the majority of more than a dozen ski resorts around Lake Tahoe were closed, a tornado touched down in central California and visitors to Yosemite National Park were told to leave.

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Mal

[Joshrips]

13 hours ago, Satchmo said:

The author of the piece you linked is a tv weatherman.  Not only that, he is a senior fellow for environment and climate at The Heartland Institute.  Has  he also convinced you that cigarettes are good for you?

 

The Heartland Institute is an American conservative and libertarian public policy think tank known for its rejection of both the scientific consensus on climate change and the negative health impacts of smoking.[2]

Founded in 1984, it worked with tobacco company Philip Morris throughout the 1990s to attempt to discredit the health risks of secondhand smoke and lobby against smoking bans.[3]: 233–234 [4] Since the 2000s, the Heartland Institute has been a leading promoter of climate change denial.[5][6]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute

 

So what? The comment I was responding to was from a hockey message board guy using a piece authored by a Weather Channel employee. Does it make a point? Is it compelling? That's what matters.

 

12 hours ago, RupertKBD said:

 

Yeah, try again:

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/watts-up-with-that/

 

Is there a reason I should care about what mediabiasfactcheck thinks? I can look at opposing arguments and develop an opinion.  I don't need a "fact checker" to tell me a climate change devotee is on the left, or a that a denier is on the right, lol. Also, see the above comment please.

 

Texas has not been very dry of late and it's possible that we are prone to bigger fires now due to decades of modern fire suppression techniques causing a the buildup of tinder.  Texas has only been keeping track of the size of fires for the last 40 years or something, so to say it's the second (only the second?) biggest fire in history is not that surprising. 

[RupertKBD]

4 minutes ago, Joshrips said:

 

So what? The comment I was responding to was from a hockey message board guy using a piece authored by a Weather Channel employee. Does it make a point? Is it compelling? That's what matters.

 

Is there a reason I should care about what mediabiasfactcheck thinks? I can look at opposing arguments and develop an opinion.  I don't need a "fact checker" to tell me a climate change devotee is on the left, or a that a denier is on the right, lol. Also, see the above comment please.

 

Texas has not been very dry of late and it's possible that we are prone to bigger fires now due to decades of modern fire suppression techniques causing a the buildup of tinder.  Texas has only been keeping track of the size of fires for the last 40 years or something, so to say it's the second (only the second?) biggest fire in history is not that surprising. 

 

Yes. But only if you want to be taken seriously as a poster. if not, then carry on...

[Satchmo]

8 hours ago, Joshrips said:

So what? The comment I was responding to was from a hockey message board guy using a piece authored by a Weather Channel employee.

Does it make a point?  Is it compelling? That's what matters.

Not really and no.

 

BTW - Left and right have nothing to do with science.

[Bob Long]

2 minutes ago, Satchmo said:

Not really and no.

 

BTW - Left and right have nothing to do with science.

 

You have your science, I have my prayers and leeches. 

[Maninthebox]

Hey now, leeching was 'science' at one point!

[Gurn]

3 hours ago, Maninthebox said:

Hey now, leeching was 'science' at one point!

Iirc, leaches are being used to attempt to regain blood flow in limbs/areas distal to blockages. 

Here is a bit about it:

https://dermnetnz.org/topics/leeches#:~:text=Leeches have been used to restore blood circulation,grafts whose viability is threatened by venous congestion.

Between 1960 and 1980 the use of leeches for bloodletting declined significantly. In the 1980's interest in the use of leeches for other therapeutic purposes resurfaced with the arrival of plastic and reconstructive surgery. One of the biggest problems with this kind of surgery is blood clotting which stops the flow of fresh blood between old and new tissue. Leeches produce substances that overcome these problems. Leeches have been used to restore blood circulation to grafted or severely injured tissue. The practice of using leeches in medicine today is known as hirudotherapy.

Hirudotherapy is mainly used in trauma and plastic and reconstructive surgery to salvage tissue flaps and skin grafts whose viability is threatened by venous congestion. Physicians are discovering other conditions where the practice may have a role to play. These include:

• Herpes zoster (shingles)
• Boils and abscesses
• Venous congestion
• Ear infections
• Sinusitis
• Tonsillar abscess
• Thrombosis (blood clot)
• Thrombophlebitis
• Hypertension
• Hyperthyroidism
• Osteoarthritis
• Cholecystitis
• Orchitis
• ----------------------------------------------------

I'm hoping they could help diabetics as well, if people can keep their toes, they are better off than losing them, then a foot, then a leg.

[Gurn]

190MPH winds? WTF!

California battles fifth day of snowstorms and 190mph winds as life-threatening blizzard knocks power out for 23,000 residents and freeways shut down - with MORE winter weather on its way

Snow storms are set to continue battering northern California for a fifth day - while hurricane-force winds are blowing the blizzard into neighboring states. 

Meteorologists have recorded gusts of up to 190mph striking the Sunshine State over the weekend, while the snow has closed off a 100-mile stretch of the Interstate 80 from the Nevada border to Colfax, CA. 

More than 6.5 million people are covered by winter weather alerts across the California Central Range, Shastas, and Sierra Nevada. Meanwhile, blizzard warnings cover the Sierra Nevada and the east of Nevada state. 

The storm moved over California on Thursday, and it shows little sign of letting up over the coming days with an additional two feet of snow on the way. Some 23,000 people remain without power. 

Knocked over by wind

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much more at link.

[UnkNuk]

Is Lotus House the greenest home in Canada?

 

https://www.bchydro.com/news/conservation/2024/most-sustainable-home.html?utm_source=connected&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=24-03&utm_content=green_home
 

[UnkNuk]

One of the world's most populated cities is nearly out of water as many go "days if not weeks" without it

 

Mexico City is home to nearly 22 million people. But for months, the sprawling city has been suffering from diminishing water supplies — and now, one of the world's most populated cities is on the verge of a "day zero" where it will no longer have enough water to provide residents.  

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mexico-city-nearly-out-of-water-many-go-days-if-not-weeks-without-it/?campaign_id=54&emc=edit_clim_20240307&instance_id=117018&nl=climate-forward&regi_id=56405277&segment_id=160144&te=1&user_id=dc88543b79693b0f05322365a827e237&utm_campaign=Hot+News&utm_content=297054453&utm_medium=email&utm_source=hs_email

[the destroyer of worlds]

1 hour ago, UnkNuk said:

One of the world's most populated cities is nearly out of water as many go "days if not weeks" without it

 

Mexico City is home to nearly 22 million people. But for months, the sprawling city has been suffering from diminishing water supplies — and now, one of the world's most populated cities is on the verge of a "day zero" where it will no longer have enough water to provide residents.  

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mexico-city-nearly-out-of-water-many-go-days-if-not-weeks-without-it/?campaign_id=54&emc=edit_clim_20240307&instance_id=117018&nl=climate-forward&regi_id=56405277&segment_id=160144&te=1&user_id=dc88543b79693b0f05322365a827e237&utm_campaign=Hot+News&utm_content=297054453&utm_medium=email&utm_source=hs_email

Crazy when you consider that Mexico City is around what was once a lake.