B.C. Politics Thread

[aGENT]

1 hour ago, Bob Long said:

 

They are?

 

Ineffective ones for sure. 

 

We have more regulations in Canada than ever btw, there's no shortage. 

 

 

 

They are. It's part of the Neo Con M.O. Remember when Harper wanted to deregulate banking to be more in line with the USA before 2008? Thank Gordie that didn't happen.

 

Regulations exist to make sure companies don't ignore their responsibilities to pad their profits, to the detriment of everyone else.

Edited September 5 by aGENT

[Elias Pettersson]

1 hour ago, Bob Long said:

 

they also take 2-3X as long to build and are very very expensive. We like it quick and cheap here. 

 

I used to be a quick and cheap guy. I like it slow and long now.  

[the destroyer of worlds]

1 hour ago, aGENT said:

 

They are. It's part of the Neo Con M.O. Remember when Harper wanted to deregulate banking to be more in line with the USA before 2008? Thank Gordie that didn't happen.

 

Regulations exist to make sure companies don't ignore their responsibilities to pad their profits, to the detriment of everyone else.

It's right there in the BC CONs platform. 

 

LOWER TAXES, SMALLER GOVERNMENT.

 

Where have we heard that before.

[Bob Long]

12 hours ago, aGENT said:

 

They are. It's part of the Neo Con M.O. Remember when Harper wanted to deregulate banking to be more in line with the USA before 2008? Thank Gordie that didn't happen.

 

Regulations exist to make sure companies don't ignore their responsibilities to pad their profits, to the detriment of everyone else.

 

Regulations exist for many reasons. A lot of times larger companies are directly involved their creation.

 

Lucky for us in 2008 we had Carney to give Harper the right advice https://macleans.ca/economy/business/stephen-harper-and-mark-carney-good-or-just-lucky/

 

The "excess profits" or padding stuff the NDP likes to talk about is just  their political take. It has nothing to do with how businesses actually operate.

 

I don't think the BC NDP are as collaborative when it comes to regulations as other parties. Look at how they attempted to sneak through changing land use regulations, there was no consultation on that, and it's probably the thing that propelled the BCC into an actual contender this election.

 

[bishopshodan]

12 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

I used to be a quick and cheap guy. I like it slow and long now.  

 

Kinda reminds me of the iron triangle.

 

You can only have two sides...

 

If its fast and cheap...it wont be good

If its cheap and good...it wont be fast

If its good and fast... it wont be cheap

 

[aGENT]

34 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Regulations exist for many reasons. A lot of times larger companies are directly involved their creation.

 

Lucky for us in 2008 we had Carney to give Harper the right advice https://macleans.ca/economy/business/stephen-harper-and-mark-carney-good-or-just-lucky/

 

The "excess profits" or padding stuff the NDP likes to talk about is just  their political take. It has nothing to do with how businesses actually operate.

 

I don't think the BC NDP are as collaborative when it comes to regulations as other parties. Look at how they attempted to sneak through changing land use regulations, there was no consultation on that, and it's probably the thing that propelled the BCC into an actual contender this election.

 

 

*Looks at multiple years of countless corporations recording record profits while wages regress and affordability worsens*

 

You sure about that?

[Bob Long]

27 minutes ago, aGENT said:

 

*Looks at multiple years of countless corporations recording record profits while wages regress and affordability worsens*

 

You sure about that?

 

Are you?

 

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/december-2023/inflation-spending-power/

 

 

 

[Bob Long]

@aGENT Which one of these companies do you want peoples pensions to lose?

 

https://www.bci.ca/investments-performance/portfolio/public-equities/

 

Jag's "excess profit" plan needs to have a pension reduction disclaimer. 

 

[Boudrias]

51 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

@aGENT Which one of these companies do you want peoples pensions to lose?

 

https://www.bci.ca/investments-performance/portfolio/public-equities/

 

Jag's "excess profit" plan needs to have a pension reduction disclaimer. 

 

The Fed's mandated an increased payout on community foundations from 3.5 to 5.0%. Meeting the 5% mandatory payout + admin fees + inflation makes a return of 10 - 11% a necessity if the endowment is to be maintained. Hitting those levels of return are more than difficult. It encourages buying higher risk assets.  

[Bob Long]

28 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

The Fed's mandated an increased payout on community foundations from 3.5 to 5.0%. Meeting the 5% mandatory payout + admin fees + inflation makes a return of 10 - 11% a necessity if the endowment is to be maintained. Hitting those levels of return are more than difficult. It encourages buying higher risk assets.  

 

I really don't think people understand the implications of what they are asking Jag to do.

 

[Rip The Mesh]

 

The provincial government has unveiled a catalogue of 10 standardized home designs to help lower the cost of building small-scale, multi-unit housing.

Developers and home builders can take the designs, which are available for free online, and use them like building blocks, stacking and rearranging outlines for a base, one or two upper floors and a roof.

There are seven different concepts for small-scale, multi-unit homes and three sketches for laneway homes.

One longtime builder of these said the success of this new catalogue will depend on how municipalities embrace it to expedite permits and whether B.C. is open to the building industry expanding its offerings.

“At first blush, it’s pretty cool,” said Jake Fry, CEO of Smallworks Ltd., which has been specializing in laneway and small homes since 2005.

Fry said the hope is that municipalities, which have the authority to approve what gets built, will use the designs to cut down the amount of time it’s taking to start construction.

“The designs still have to go in front of somebody, who (says), ‘Oh, this is from the catalogue. Here’s your permit,'” said Fry.

 

He said if a builder sets out to construct 20 small homes and knows that a permit can be secured right away, the company can better plan how it buys parts and reduce holding costs.

“You can go out and buy 20 furnaces or 20 toilets. The procurement becomes lower cost and we can offer that to the client and be competitive in our pricing because we are shopping wisely as opposed to every job being a new science project.”

The catalogue, released Wednesday, allows companies that make prefabricated parts, such as panels or windows, to observe which designs sell because they’ve been repeatedly approved for use across multiple municipalities, said Fry.

 

“The first standard home project will be like every other home but, with repetition, the entire supply chain will become more efficient, leading to reduced costs and faster, more affordable delivery of homes,” said Hill in a statement.

Fry added that while the catalogue could have been “more sophisticated” and have more options, this will evolve.

“It’s perhaps like setting a table with the ingredients and letting someone else make the meal. There are basic shapes and alternative shapes. It’s enough to start.”

At a press conference, Housing Minister Kahlon mentioned a story published by Postmedia in May 2018 about longtime homeowners in Delta who turned their single-family, suburban lot, where they had raised their family in a 1970s rancher, into two new duplexes that had four units.

 

In 2016, the City of Delta gave Kathleen and John Higgins a green light to start the project. But the city also said each application for any future similar projects would have to be reviewed individually for context.

Kahlon said these standardized designs are intended to make it easier for more homeowners to replicate the Higgins’ redevelopment.

The ministry of housing said no local governments have adopted the plans yet as the designs were only recently finalized.

However, the province has been in touch with some local governments that have shown some early interest and is working to identify which ones might be interested in a pilot project to expedite approvals for designs from the catalogue.

A few B.C. municipalities have already been using pre-approved home designs to expedite building and lower costs with some, like Kelowna, holding design competitions to refresh offerings.

[Bob Long]

11 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said:

 

The provincial government has unveiled a catalogue of 10 standardized home designs to help lower the cost of building small-scale, multi-unit housing.

Developers and home builders can take the designs, which are available for free online, and use them like building blocks, stacking and rearranging outlines for a base, one or two upper floors and a roof.

There are seven different concepts for small-scale, multi-unit homes and three sketches for laneway homes.

One longtime builder of these said the success of this new catalogue will depend on how municipalities embrace it to expedite permits and whether B.C. is open to the building industry expanding its offerings.

“At first blush, it’s pretty cool,” said Jake Fry, CEO of Smallworks Ltd., which has been specializing in laneway and small homes since 2005.

Fry said the hope is that municipalities, which have the authority to approve what gets built, will use the designs to cut down the amount of time it’s taking to start construction.

“The designs still have to go in front of somebody, who (says), ‘Oh, this is from the catalogue. Here’s your permit,'” said Fry.

 

He said if a builder sets out to construct 20 small homes and knows that a permit can be secured right away, the company can better plan how it buys parts and reduce holding costs.

“You can go out and buy 20 furnaces or 20 toilets. The procurement becomes lower cost and we can offer that to the client and be competitive in our pricing because we are shopping wisely as opposed to every job being a new science project.”

The catalogue, released Wednesday, allows companies that make prefabricated parts, such as panels or windows, to observe which designs sell because they’ve been repeatedly approved for use across multiple municipalities, said Fry.

 

“The first standard home project will be like every other home but, with repetition, the entire supply chain will become more efficient, leading to reduced costs and faster, more affordable delivery of homes,” said Hill in a statement.

Fry added that while the catalogue could have been “more sophisticated” and have more options, this will evolve.

“It’s perhaps like setting a table with the ingredients and letting someone else make the meal. There are basic shapes and alternative shapes. It’s enough to start.”

At a press conference, Housing Minister Kahlon mentioned a story published by Postmedia in May 2018 about longtime homeowners in Delta who turned their single-family, suburban lot, where they had raised their family in a 1970s rancher, into two new duplexes that had four units.

 

In 2016, the City of Delta gave Kathleen and John Higgins a green light to start the project. But the city also said each application for any future similar projects would have to be reviewed individually for context.

Kahlon said these standardized designs are intended to make it easier for more homeowners to replicate the Higgins’ redevelopment.

The ministry of housing said no local governments have adopted the plans yet as the designs were only recently finalized.

However, the province has been in touch with some local governments that have shown some early interest and is working to identify which ones might be interested in a pilot project to expedite approvals for designs from the catalogue.

A few B.C. municipalities have already been using pre-approved home designs to expedite building and lower costs with some, like Kelowna, holding design competitions to refresh offerings.

 

I've wanted to see this for a long time, it's a good idea.

 

People used to do this on their own back in the 40s with home plans. I think we had six homes on our block in Burnaby that got together in 1948 to group buy using the same design, and they all helped each other out according to the old dude we bought from.

 

If you pay attention driving around north Burnaby you can see many of the old designs repeating on many blocks.

 

Edited September 5 by Bob Long

[Ghostsof1915]

11 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

I've wanted to see this for a long time, it's a good idea.

 

People used to do this on their own back in the 40s with home plans. I think we had six homes on our block in Burnaby that got together in 1948 to group buy using the same design, and they all helped each other out according to the old dude we bought from.

 

If you pay attention driving around north Burnaby you can see many of the old designs repeating on many blocks.

 

That's why I'm sad all the old houses down on Granville or just off of it are being demolished for luxury townhouses and condos. Some of those late 40's early 50's places are built far better than homes built 20-40 years later. 

[Bob Long]

4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

That's why I'm sad all the old houses down on Granville or just off of it are being demolished for luxury townhouses and condos. Some of those late 40's early 50's places are built far better than homes built 20-40 years later. 

 

We had rough cut fir 2x10s for joists would be insanely expensive now. 

 

It's sad to see these go, you won't get better framing now.

[Boudrias]

1 hour ago, Bob Long said:

 

I've wanted to see this for a long time, it's a good idea.

 

People used to do this on their own back in the 40s with home plans. I think we had six homes on our block in Burnaby that got together in 1948 to group buy using the same design, and they all helped each other out according to the old dude we bought from.

 

If you pay attention driving around north Burnaby you can see many of the old designs repeating on many blocks.

 

I like the idea as well. Extend it to all government buildings. Hospitals, schools, daycare, retirement homes, long term care, and government admin buildings.

[The Arrogant Worms]

BC United MLA Dan Davies runs as Independent, eyeing possible 'power broker' status

https://www.timescolonist.com/national-news/bc-united-mla-dan-davies-runs-as-independent-eyeing-possible-power-broker-status-9480260

[The Arrogant Worms]

56 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

I like the idea as well. Extend it to all government buildings. Hospitals, schools, daycare, retirement homes, long term care, and government admin buildings.

You must mean empty buildings?

[The Arrogant Worms]

More child-care spaces open at Nanaimo-Ladysmith schools

Gabriola Elementary, Hammond Bay Elementary and Pleasant Valley Elementary share the 96 new spaces

 

https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/more-child-care-spaces-open-at-nanaimo-ladysmith-schools-9481415

[bishopshodan]

2 hours ago, Bob Long said:

If you pay attention driving around north Burnaby you can see many of the old designs repeating on many blocks.

 

Reminds me of the Vancouver Specials. 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo]

2 hours ago, Rip The Mesh said:

 

The provincial government has unveiled a catalogue of 10 standardized home designs to help lower the cost of building small-scale, multi-unit housing.

Developers and home builders can take the designs, which are available for free online, and use them like building blocks, stacking and rearranging outlines for a base, one or two upper floors and a roof.

There are seven different concepts for small-scale, multi-unit homes and three sketches for laneway homes.

One longtime builder of these said the success of this new catalogue will depend on how municipalities embrace it to expedite permits and whether B.C. is open to the building industry expanding its offerings.

“At first blush, it’s pretty cool,” said Jake Fry, CEO of Smallworks Ltd., which has been specializing in laneway and small homes since 2005.

Fry said the hope is that municipalities, which have the authority to approve what gets built, will use the designs to cut down the amount of time it’s taking to start construction.

“The designs still have to go in front of somebody, who (says), ‘Oh, this is from the catalogue. Here’s your permit,'” said Fry.

 

He said if a builder sets out to construct 20 small homes and knows that a permit can be secured right away, the company can better plan how it buys parts and reduce holding costs.

“You can go out and buy 20 furnaces or 20 toilets. The procurement becomes lower cost and we can offer that to the client and be competitive in our pricing because we are shopping wisely as opposed to every job being a new science project.”

The catalogue, released Wednesday, allows companies that make prefabricated parts, such as panels or windows, to observe which designs sell because they’ve been repeatedly approved for use across multiple municipalities, said Fry.

 

“The first standard home project will be like every other home but, with repetition, the entire supply chain will become more efficient, leading to reduced costs and faster, more affordable delivery of homes,” said Hill in a statement.

Fry added that while the catalogue could have been “more sophisticated” and have more options, this will evolve.

“It’s perhaps like setting a table with the ingredients and letting someone else make the meal. There are basic shapes and alternative shapes. It’s enough to start.”

At a press conference, Housing Minister Kahlon mentioned a story published by Postmedia in May 2018 about longtime homeowners in Delta who turned their single-family, suburban lot, where they had raised their family in a 1970s rancher, into two new duplexes that had four units.

 

In 2016, the City of Delta gave Kathleen and John Higgins a green light to start the project. But the city also said each application for any future similar projects would have to be reviewed individually for context.

Kahlon said these standardized designs are intended to make it easier for more homeowners to replicate the Higgins’ redevelopment.

The ministry of housing said no local governments have adopted the plans yet as the designs were only recently finalized.

However, the province has been in touch with some local governments that have shown some early interest and is working to identify which ones might be interested in a pilot project to expedite approvals for designs from the catalogue.

A few B.C. municipalities have already been using pre-approved home designs to expedite building and lower costs with some, like Kelowna, holding design competitions to refresh offerings.

Cookie cutter houses from the 50's. My current street has all houses built in the 50's and there are 3 basic designs as well as mirrored floor plans. Craziest thing, the house I own now in delta is the exact same floor plan as the house I grew up in in Burnaby except everything is reversed. Sears used to sell house kits in the 30's and 40's too. 

[Bob Long]

18 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

 

Reminds me of the Vancouver Specials. 

 

a little bit for sure. It was nice being able to get to know the guy I bought the house from, he was a WW2 vet, flew in a Lancaster. Gave me the skinny on the neighbourhood history. 

 

It's a model millennials should follow today. Get a bunch of people together and diy your home dreams. 

[aGENT]

7 hours ago, Bob Long said:

@aGENT Which one of these companies do you want peoples pensions to lose?

 

https://www.bci.ca/investments-performance/portfolio/public-equities/

 

Jag's "excess profit" plan needs to have a pension reduction disclaimer. 

 

 

Nobody is denying companies to make profits Bob. Let's not red herring this up. They just shouldn't be profiteering, not paying taxes (including/especially their CEOs).

[Bob Long]

20 minutes ago, aGENT said:

 

Nobody is denying companies to make profits Bob. Let's not red herring this up. They just shouldn't be profiteering, not paying taxes (including/especially their CEOs).

 

who's not paying taxes?

 

as far as the profiteering stuff goes, as well as the excess profit yap, that stuff leads us nowhere. 

 

[aGENT]

10 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

who's not paying taxes?

 

as far as the profiteering stuff goes, as well as the excess profit yap, that stuff leads us nowhere. 

 

 

Large corporations, CEO's...

 

Are you seriously denying that large corporations and ultra-wealthy people aren't paying their fair share of taxes and that some companies have been profiteering...?  

[Bob Long]

1 hour ago, aGENT said:

 

Large corporations, CEO's...

 

Are you seriously denying that large corporations and ultra-wealthy people aren't paying their fair share of taxes and that some companies have been profiteering...?  

 

What is the term we are using? Fair share? 

 

Who decides what "profiteering" is?

 

I see knee jerk reaction to ceo salaries, I see very little critical analysis of whats fair and the correct strategy for Canada.