Bob Long Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 22 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Vancouver-based internal medicine specialist Kevin Mcleod, a critic of the health care system on social media, said family doctors have moved to the new payment model to practise family medicine but have come from hospital work and walk-in clinics. “We’ve shuffled the deck chairs around,” Mcleod wrote on social media site X. Next, all kinds of incentives will be made to bring doctors back to hospitals and “it goes round and round and the taxpayer and the patients lose,” he wrote. “What really needs to be done is an increase in training positions now, not years from now.” ^ key part of the article here, imo. Its not really new doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aGENT Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 10 minutes ago, Bob Long said: really, healthcare and housing don't move the needle for you? We just got a bunch of doctors. They're forcing the NIMBYism out of municipalities and encouraging/removing barriers to density. They just bought two co-ops in Coquitlam... I mean yeah, like everywhere in Canada it's later than ideal but they ARE doing things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: We just got a bunch of doctors. not really tho, just moved the billing. We pretty much still have 900,000 people needing a primary care physician, which isn't significantly different from when they took over. 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: They're forcing the NIMBYism out of municipalities and encouraging/removing barriers to density. They just bought two co-ops in Coquitlam... I'd argue Sim has done more for Vancouver in 18 months. 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: I mean yeah, like everywhere in Canada it's later than ideal but they ARE doing things. yep, nice announcement today with the feds delivering a ton of money. But thats the feds, not Eby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 17 minutes ago, Bob Long said: ^ key part of the article here, imo. Its not really new doctors. They also expanded UBC's medical program and are moving forward with the new SFU one.... Again, doing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 21 minutes ago, Bob Long said: really, healthcare and housing don't move the needle for you? 4 minutes ago, aGENT said: We just got a bunch of doctors. They're forcing the NIMBYism out of municipalities and encouraging/removing barriers to density. They just bought two co-ops in Coquitlam... I mean yeah, like everywhere in Canada it's later than ideal but they ARE doing things. For some reason, I get this image in my mind when @Bob Long talks about how the BC NDP hasn't done anything to move the needle: Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, aGENT said: They also expanded UBC's medical program and are moving forward with the new SFU one.... Again, doing stuff. now. What about the last 7 years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 19 minutes ago, Bob Long said: ^ key part of the article here, imo. Its not really new doctors. Eh there's a lot of new doctors as well. Physicians coming back from Alberta and we've had some UK doctors incentivized to come over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Duodenum said: Eh there's a lot of new doctors as well. Physicians coming back from Alberta and we've had some UK doctors incentivized to come over. do we have a source for the actual number of new physicians? not just the ones that moved over from walk ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: do we have a source for the actual number of new physicians? not just the ones that moved over from walk ins. Don't know but I'm in the field so I see them coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: not really tho, just moved the billing. We pretty much still have 900,000 people needing a primary care physician, which isn't significantly different from when they took over. 1 minute ago, Duodenum said: Eh there's a lot of new doctors as well. Physicians coming back from Alberta and we've had some UK doctors incentivized to come over. No, there's new docs too. 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I'd argue Sim has done more for Vancouver in 18 months. What Vancouver is doing is great. But it's one city in the province. The NDP basically applied that EVERYWHERE. 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: yep, nice announcement today with the feds delivering a ton of money. But thats the feds, not Eby. The Province is spending money as well...those 2 Coquitlam co-ops a prime example. 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: now. What about the last 7 years? Blame voters? Governments work SLOW. And they only do so when voters force them to. If voters want politicians that are proactive, long term planning, thoughtful etc, they need to actually support and vote for them. Now who's for higher taxes to pay for all the expanded transit, health care, government housing etc!!!?? Wait, where'd everybody go? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Duodenum said: Don't know but I'm in the field so I see them coming. I figured from your handle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 3 hours ago, Optimist Prime said: I am trying to think of what I would complain about for the BC NDP: my only one so far is that my cousin, a city mayor, wanted to run for the NDP two cycles ago and was told that their last candidate in that riding was male and so the next one needed to be female, by party rules. I am not involved with the party so i can't determine how true that is but he was very disappointed and said basically that unless a riding has an elected MLA in the BC NDP then the candidate nominated for that riding must alternate between male and female. Sounds really bassackwards to me. You don't get the best candidate if you restrict who can run for the nomination. seems a small thing to complain about but I would always like the best candidate to be brought forward, not limit anyone based on sex. EDIT: that was the 2017 election cycle and sure enough the NDP ran a lady in the riding and lost to Sonia Furstenau. lol The Green party leader who has declared this month she is not even running here again, she is moving to Swan Lake or Beacon Hill or something like that in Victoria. I really hope she loses. Interesting - why do you hope she loses? As someone who's dealt with homelessness and associated struggles, she's one of the few politicians I look at as having a reasonable approach to these types of issues and I'd like to see her continue in office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 18 minutes ago, aGENT said: No, there's new docs too. What Vancouver is doing is great. But it's one city in the province. The NDP basically applied that EVERYWHERE. The Province is spending money as well...those 2 Coquitlam co-ops a prime example. Blame voters? Governments work SLOW. And they only do so when voters force them to. If voters want politicians that are proactive, long term planning, thoughtful etc, they need to actually support and vote for them. Now who's for higher taxes to pay for all the expanded transit, health care, government housing etc!!!?? Wait, where'd everybody go? Well yes, we should demand better outcomes for our money don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 13 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Well yes, we should demand better outcomes for our money don't you think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 55 minutes ago, aGENT said: We just got a bunch of doctors. They're forcing the NIMBYism out of municipalities and encouraging/removing barriers to density. They just bought two co-ops in Coquitlam... I mean yeah, like everywhere in Canada it's later than ideal but they ARE doing things. Also the crackdown on Airbnb. I'd like them to do more, but kicking them out sure won't make things better. Edited February 20 by King Heffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 48 minutes ago, Bob Long said: now. What about the last 7 years? ....and the 16 years before that under the red mitten gang. Every politician in this province has to be aware that the population is aging out, doctors, nurses, care workers etc. Throw in a pandemic with all the abuse thrown at the medical profession, this is what's left of our "system". Plus, it's world wide. The Province going forward with the campus at SFU is huge. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 12 minutes ago, Johngould21 said: ....and the 16 years before that under the red mitten gang. Every politician in this province has to be aware that the population is aging out, doctors, nurses, care workers etc. Throw in a pandemic with all the abuse thrown at the medical profession, this is what's left of our "system". Plus, it's world wide. The Province going forward with the campus at SFU is huge. They've also reversed the privatization of hospitals done by the BC Libs. Since Eby took over, most of the good stuff has been with health and housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just now, King Heffy said: They've also reversed the privatization of hospitals done by the BC Libs. Since Eby took over, most of the good stuff has been with health and housing. I thought that was just for care homes. We sure noticed the difference in care home facilities after the red mitten gang benefited their huge donors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 35 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Also the crackdown on Airbnb. This was a very good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 34 minutes ago, Johngould21 said: ....and the 16 years before that under the red mitten gang. Every politician in this province has to be aware that the population is aging out, doctors, nurses, care workers etc. Throw in a pandemic with all the abuse thrown at the medical profession, this is what's left of our "system". Plus, it's world wide. The Province going forward with the campus at SFU is huge. BC actually did well under the libs by the same measures the NDP is given credit for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just now, Bob Long said: This was a very good move. There was a clip on Global News last night with a guy talking about how Airbnb's didn't affect the housing problem. Something along the lines of "mumble mumble percent" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just now, Johngould21 said: There was a clip on Global News last night with a guy talking about how Airbnb's didn't affect the housing problem. Something along the lines of "mumble mumble percent" Oof, must be an investor. I'm in a new building, active with strata. We disallowed short term rentals at the first AGM and man it's been nice not dealing with that bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: BC actually did well under the libs by the same measures the NDP is given credit for. But, the rubber hit the road during and leading up to the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just now, Johngould21 said: But, the rubber hit the road during and leading up to the pandemic. 100%. I know quite personally how the system failed many families. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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