Satchmo Posted Tuesday at 07:28 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:28 PM 1 minute ago, bolt said: https://www.conservativebc.ca/ideas Finally but too late. It's not as "far right" as we've been lied to by a sad and desperate Eby. It sure as hell not the center right as we've been led to believe by a sad and desperate Rustad. Not to anyone paying attention anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted Tuesday at 07:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:31 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, bolt said: https://www.conservativebc.ca/ideas Finally but too late. It's not as "far right" as we've been lied to by a sad and desperate Eby. It's still absolutely atrocious and destroys healthcare, education, and housing in the province. Rustad and the rest of the vermin that makes up his party belong in prison, not in charge of a province. They have absolutely nothing of value to offer. Edited Tuesday at 07:31 PM by King Heffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted Tuesday at 07:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:34 PM 1 hour ago, Optimist Prime said: now: why i really came to the thread this morning: Opinion | A fringe party packed with conspiracy theorists could soon be leading one of Canada’s largest provinces. Here’s why I’m not surprised https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/a-fringe-party-packed-with-conspiracy-theorists-could-soon-be-leading-one-of-canadas-largest/ Obviously what is happening in BC isn't working for a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted Tuesday at 07:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:36 PM The BC Con platform adds more debt than the NDP one, what the heck. You'd think that would be the one thing they could really hit the NDP on and they turned it into a weakness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted Tuesday at 07:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:40 PM 5 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Obviously what is happening in BC isn't working for a lot of people. Not the data I am extrapolating, but perhaps. I see it that the same old left and right divisions are applicable, only the right has no qualms in shedding their skin and shapeshifting into a new party whenever they destroy any vestige of public trust in their previous one. Socred to BCLibs to BCups to BC CONS. Same shenanigans, same people, "new phone who dis?" approach. edit: in fact, I predict in four to 9 years time the 'right' in BC will be called the BC Dogwood Party or some other crazy reinvention of the same old tired conservative tropes. There is a reason the BC Conservatives have never come close to power in BC. They are, over the next 7 years about to realize why. This cycle is very close, but if the CONS win, it will be a short 4 years before the pendulum swings back again..and I frankly doubt they win. Peak BC CON will net them less than half the seats in BC this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted Tuesday at 07:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:40 PM Just now, Boudrias said: Obviously what is happening in BC isn't working for a lot of people. Some people have no patience. Things suck pretty much everywhere. Things are getting better though and to my mind aren't quite as bad as some make them out to be. I like that the NDP got a bit rattled and started to listen more closely to voter demands. I hope that continues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted Tuesday at 07:41 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:41 PM A boomer couple in front of me of the voting lineup legit U turned out of there when they found out votes would be counted electronically, saying it couldn't be trust worthy. Compared to a party affiliated volunteer hand counting the votes I guess? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM 2 minutes ago, Bounce000 said: A boomer couple in front of me of the voting lineup legit U turned out of there when they found out votes would be counted electronically, saying it couldn't be trust worthy. Compared to a party affiliated volunteer hand counting the votes I guess? I am glad, lunatics shouldn't vote. bad enough they lead the right wing parties in Alberta and BC... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted Tuesday at 07:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:45 PM 1 minute ago, Bounce000 said: A boomer couple in front of me of the voting lineup legit U turned out of there when they found out votes would be counted electronically, saying it couldn't be trust worthy. Compared to a party affiliated volunteer hand counting the votes I guess? I can guess where their vote would have gone had the paranoia not hit so that's a plus. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted Tuesday at 07:47 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:47 PM 3 minutes ago, Bounce000 said: A boomer couple in front of me of the voting lineup legit U turned out of there when they found out votes would be counted electronically, saying it couldn't be trust worthy. Compared to a party affiliated volunteer hand counting the votes I guess? I counted many a ballot. There was always 2 poll clerks and scrutineers from the political parties if they choose to be present. The counts had to be verified by those present or recounted. Very little opportunity for any cheating. I have no idea how the electronic count is done nor I doubt you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted Tuesday at 07:47 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:47 PM John Rustad was in government for 12 years, and in cabinet for most of that time. I think we know we don't want him to run the province, and I am starting to get a sense that the majority of British Columbians are onto him and that he will not win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted Tuesday at 07:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:51 PM A computer scanner reads each ballot and accurately tallies the votes. Independent specialists ensure the programming is authentic, and they are themselves scrutinized. It is a system that works reliably. More reliably than hand counting and complaining that a ballot for your opponent was scribbled outside the lines, lol. I find it really telling that right wing conspiracy theorists like to call the left wing 'loonies'. All 5 million of us can't validate either method of counting votes: 4.9999 million of us simply have to accept the word of the few thousand folks that do the counting. Dumbing down our voters over time is probably the single greatest threat to Democracy, lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted Tuesday at 07:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:51 PM Just now, Boudrias said: I counted many a ballot. There was always 2 poll clerks and scrutineers from the political parties if they choose to be present. The counts had to be verified by those present or recounted. Very little opportunity for any cheating. I have no idea how the electronic count is done nor I doubt you do. It's scanned and once that is done the paper ballot falls to a box at the bottom of the machine. It is held there until a worker removes it to a secure box where it can be hand counted if necessary. The scanning process is done by well tested technology with a failure rate of zero. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted Tuesday at 07:52 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:52 PM 9 minutes ago, Bounce000 said: A boomer couple in front of me of the voting lineup legit U turned out of there when they found out votes would be counted electronically, saying it couldn't be trust worthy. Compared to a party affiliated volunteer hand counting the votes I guess? Don't piss on boomers...there are a lot more younger people who.are into conspiracy shit about voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted Tuesday at 07:53 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:53 PM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted Tuesday at 07:58 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:58 PM Frankly this election would be a blowout NDP win if John Horgan was never sick with Cancer. I don't like David Eby, and many voters on both sides of the spectrum also don't like him. The fact that a personally unlikeable Premier is outpolling his opponent speaks volumes to the offerings from both parties. I already voted by mail in ballot, for the NDP candidate in my riding, I don't mind sharing that. The team and policy is what I am voting for, while at the same time voting to reject John Rustad, just like his own party rejected him as their leader before he swapped to the CONS and made some back room deals to secure what power he could leading into this election. I am hopeful that most of the population of BC will also reject John Rustad's conspiracy theorists party of Big Business, big Gas and Big failures for BC. THat is about as partisan as I can get, for a guy whose own team isn't even in this election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted Tuesday at 09:16 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:16 PM 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: Obviously what is happening in BC isn't working for a lot of people. What about all the provinces led by conservative premiers? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted Tuesday at 09:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:20 PM 1 hour ago, Duodenum said: The BC Con platform adds more debt than the NDP one, what the heck. You'd think that would be the one thing they could really hit the NDP on and they turned it into a weakness. Some of the ideas are fine, a few are really stupid, particularly education. And it costs more. And Rustad is a liar. I hope the lesson Eby takes from his upcoming win won't be to continue to take things further from centre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted Tuesday at 09:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:35 PM Left of center is fine, right of center is fine, but out in left or right field is absolutely not fine for anyone but the rump loonies on either wing. Just my two cents in support of your statemtn above, Bob L. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Duodenum Posted Tuesday at 10:39 PM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 10:39 PM 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: What about all the provinces led by conservative premiers? Everyone feels like life is worse and its the government's fault (whoever their government is). If only people could think a little critically and be like, gee there was that once in a generation disaster covid that happened. Things are going to get worse after something like that. How did my government perform compared to others. Instead it's the knee-jerk, same old brain-dead response: I want change!!! It hurts me how little people think about the why instead of the what. 2 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted Tuesday at 10:43 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:43 PM (edited) 4 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Everyone feels like life is worse and its the government's fault (whoever their government is). If only people could think a little critically and be like, gee there was that once in a generation disaster covid that happened. Things are going to get worse after something like that. How did my government perform compared to others. Instead it's the knee-jerk, same old brain-dead response: I want change!!! It hurts me how little people think about the why instead of the what. Maybe a bit of thinking is starting to happen. It doesn't appear that Rustad will make any more gains, and may have lost some support. I don't know that it's a reflection on Eby but maybe more that Rustad isn't credible. Edited Tuesday at 10:44 PM by Bob Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted Tuesday at 10:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:50 PM Taming inflation down to 1.6% in September is really starting to drive that message home: yes there was as global catastrophe in 2020 that took a few years to work through, then a few more years to combat the fallout from. Things will get back to a normal, and by and large most Canadian small businesses and people were kept afloat due to the extraordinary measures the governments put in place, from the local city halls right up the Feds. There will be a future catastrophe that no one right now is thinking about: Ask yourselves who you would want to be in charge during that next terrible crisis. I know for me it aint Rustad and Pee Pee Le Pew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted Tuesday at 11:00 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:00 PM Covid Freighter aground, blocking the Suez Canal Drought reducing the amount of Panama Canal transits War in Ukraine War in Israel Ever increasing environmental disasters --------------------------- Really, we've done quite well, when considering. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted Tuesday at 11:06 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:06 PM (edited) BC Conservative Candidate Posted Graphic Instructing Critics of Donald Trump on How to ‘Kill Themselves’ https://pressprogress.ca/bc-conservative-candidate-posted-graphic-instructing-critics-of-donald-trump-on-how-to-kill-themselves/ Graphic shared by controversial BC Conservative candidate Brent Chapman featured imagery of handguns and violent suicide rhetoric Shortly after publication of this article, BC Conservative leader John Rustad defended Brent Chapman’s candidacy and declined to rule out appointing Chapman to his cabinet should the BC Conservatives form government. “Mr. Chapman has come out with clarification in terms of his statements,” Rustad said at a press conference Tuesday. “It’s up to the people in British Columbia to make a decision” about “whether they elect Brent Chapman to represent Surrey South.” Asked if he would appoint Chapman to cabinet, Rustad said he would “not speculate one way or the other in terms of people who might go into cabinet,” but added: “I can tell you that we will certainly be looking at all the options that we have.” Edited Tuesday at 11:10 PM by The Arrogant Worms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted Tuesday at 11:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:30 PM 29 minutes ago, Gurn said: Covid Freighter aground, blocking the Suez Canal Drought reducing the amount of Panama Canal transits War in Ukraine War in Israel Ever increasing environmental disasters --------------------------- Really, we've done quite well, when considering. Don't forget the aging population as well. This was always going to be a rough patch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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