King Heffy Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 3 minutes ago, stawns said: Not to mention Boeser - late round 1 Hoglander - round 2 Demko - round 2 Forsling - round 5 Yup. Compared to Benning's predecessor who was so incompetent with drafting and trades that he belongs in the conversation of worst GMs in the history of the league. Gillis proved himself to be completely unqualified to hold any position in hockey ops and lacked any capability to conduct player evaluation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Coxe Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Both the GM and Tocchet must see something in their history working with Sprong. This seems like the Yannik Weber experiment in 2015/16 as a PP RHS specialist. The days of a low minutes enforcer are in the past and that fourth line spot now goes to a specialist PP/PK/ or faceoffs player who can't stick in the top six. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 8 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Yup. Compared to Benning's predecessor who was so incompetent with drafting and trades that he belongs in the conversation of worst GMs in the history of the league. Gillis proved himself to be completely unqualified to hold any position in hockey ops and lacked any capability to conduct player evaluation. ...and yet got the team as close as any other possible situation to winning the cup, without actually winning the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post deepbluefunk Posted July 20 Popular Post Share Posted July 20 (edited) Another lineup option to consider Debrusk - Miller - Boeser Joshua - Petey - Garland Heinen - Suter - Sprong Hoglander - Blueger - Sherwood Edited July 20 by deepbluefunk 5 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnstorm Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 hour ago, Viking said: Best of luck to the Dutchman Sprong, I am part Dutch and as the saying goes if you ain't Dutch you ain't much...My Grandpas words haha Wooden shoes, Wooden head, Wooden listen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JamesB Posted July 20 Popular Post Share Posted July 20 The obvious question is how were the Canucks able to get Sprong on a such a bargain deal. Just to summarize some of his attributes. 1. Having just turned 27 he is pretty much in his prime. 2. Very good even strength scoring. Among players who played at least 200 minutes last season, he ranked 37th in 5-on-5 pts per 60. That is pretty much a first line level and is ahead of players like William Nylander, Jonathan Marchessault, Casey Mittelstadt, and Matthew Tkachuk. 3. Decent size (about average for an NHL forward). 4. Very good speed 5. Not great defensively, but not bad. Certainly not a liability. 6. Overall, performance aggregators like Evolving Hockey have him as a strong contributor. Their predicted cap hit for him this year is $3.4M So how did the Canucks get him for under a million. The obvious answer is that Sprong was not happy with the offers he got and is looking to "bet on himself", have a good year, and cash in next summer. The Canucks look like a good bet as he has a good chance of playing with either Petey or Miller, especially if Suter moves to center. Combined with good coaching and a good overall team, this might be his best chance to burnish his resume. This makes life tough for the "tweeners" on the depth chart -- Podz, Karlsson, Bains, PDG, and others. Maybe a trade is coming (Podz or Hogs?). Very impressive work by Alvin. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 3 hours ago, GrammaInTheTub said: Hell yeah - I’ve noted this before and think that’s how it rolls out. There are just some people here who have picked their projected lineup and are unwilling to move from their deadset belief that Debrusk must be for Petey. I honestly think Debrusk fits Miller and Boeser like a glove. You would put every player we sign on Miller line.Thanks god miller line has 2 spots only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 31 minutes ago, stawns said: No love for Mean Girls? Don't know what that is 31 minutes ago, stawns said: People need to quit trying to put a 24 goal scorer on the 4th line Ah ok. Yeah seems like a use him properly or trade him moment. With the addition of debrusk maybe hogs is the top 6 we're looking for. At 1.1 mil too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.AM.THE.WALRUS Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Contract is probably laden with incentives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, spook007 said: Watching the video you have to think these a coachable issues... If not he can ask Kuz how the view is from the press box... It looks a lot like the issues a lot of our players had under Bruce Boudreau... Simple safe set plays out from defence... will be interesting to see Good point about the Boudreau play. They'll have to figure out how to play to his strengths and hopefully be able to mitigate or manage his laziness. Miller may be a food influence to help him change that since he had to address that in himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemus Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 6 minutes ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: Contract is probably laden with incentives At 27 years of age, he is not eligible for performance bonuses. What incentives were you thinking of? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: “SPRONG” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 The Canucks made the announcement Saturday afternoon. Hockey Night in Canada’s Elliotte Friedman has Sprong, 27, signing a one-year deal with a cap hit of $975,000. Sprong is a 6-foot, 195-pound right-shot forward originally from Amsterdam. His family moved to Canada when he was eight to help with his hockey aspirations. He grew in the Montreal region and played his junior hockey for the QMJHL’s Charlottetown Islanders. The book on Sprong is that he’s a skilled forward with a heavy shot. Carter Rowney, who was his Anaheim Ducks teammate at the time, told The Athletic in December 2018: “I think it could be in the top half of the NHL shot-wise. That’s a good asset to have.” PuckPedia has the Canucks with the Sprong signing $15,833 dollars under the salary cap. That is with defenceman Tucker Poolman’s $2.5 million contract counting against the cap. Poolman, 31, didn’t play at all last season because of concussion-related and migraine issues, and putting him on long-term injured reserve again would give the Canucks cap relief. It’s the final year of Poolman’s contract. Sprong is another Pittsburgh Penguins alum coming to the Canucks, joining the likes of team president Jim Rutherford, general manager Patrik Allvin and coach Rick Tocchet. The Penguins selected Sprong in the second round of the 2015 NHL Draft. Vancouver becomes his sixth NHL club. He had 18 goals and 43 points in 76 regular season games with the Detroit Red Wings last season. Sprong signed a one-year, $2 million deal with Detroit last July. He had a career-high 21 goals the season before with the Seattle Kraken. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 3 hours ago, Devron said: Adds scoring depth that we need. Now we can trade a 24 goal scorer, makes sense… lol Tell me you haven't looked at our defensive depth chart without saying you haven't looked at our defensive depth chart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemus Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 11 minutes ago, I.AM.THE.WALRUS said: Contract is probably laden with incentives The best incentive would be to play well, get lots of points and then cash in next year with a lucrative contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy animal Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 48 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: shoulda never been let into the league as GM if thats your theory. That woulda killed any opportunities period Oh would you look at that, the name Gillis comes up and Anthony starts chiming in non-stop. Could be drinking beer, getting out in the sun and yet here he is trying to act tough. Must be really crappy having a non existent social life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 29 minutes ago, Drive-By Body Pierce said: ...and yet got the team as close as any other possible situation to winning the cup, without actually winning the cup. And yet he never built that team. He added a dash of sprinkles to the cake. that GM position could have almost been vacant after the core was assembled and still got nearly that close. Twins Burr Kes Juice Salo Edler Schneids Luongo Pretty much the biggest most important pieces. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapshot Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 46 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: Lol so Instead we sign guys like Mikheyev instead. No cup experience, no single Selke votes.... Nothing of value to provide for the team or the youth. Cup winner elite bottom 6C, defensive zone/PK specialist who actually received selke votes... Malhotra was no big loss to VAN's 2010-11 cup run. Nope. not at all. Competent and skilled??? are you 100% sure on letting Zadorov walk? are you 100% certain it was worth selling all those trade chips to let everyone walk in the end? are you sure it was competent and skilled to sign Mikheyev to have to pay to dump him? or Sell Kuzmenko at ROCK FUCKING BOTTOM???? Man, you really want to go back to the days of consistently finishing bottom 10 in the league making trades like the OEL trade and the Gudbranson trade again, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, AnthonyG said: So out of curiosity what was your expectation of Myers when he was signed? lmao at your grandpa’s saying, that’s a gold I never liked it and knew it was an overpay and he wouldn't come close to living up to the contract. But not my money so just have to suffer watching him in a Canucks uniform for 2-3 more years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy animal Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, 48MPHSlapshot said: Man, you really want to go back to the days of consistently finishing bottom 10 in the league making trades like the OEL trade and the Gudbranson trade again, huh? Anthony doesnt really have a life beyond this forum. Probably was getting shoved in the locker one too many times while everybody else was having fun in the bars, restaurants, having beers with friends and enjoying some Canuck playoff hockey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Giving Tocch options. Love it. No risk contract that can be buried or traded. Scoring depth, second PP option if he can play Tocch’s game. Podz and PDG on notice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy animal Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 4 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapshot said: Man, you really want to go back to the days of consistently finishing bottom 10 in the league making trades like the OEL trade and the Gudbranson trade again, huh? The absolute worst era in canuck history, i dont understand how people can be fans of Benning. People who are just intrested in prospects rather than winning belong with those wanna be scouts at hfboards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 4 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: And yet he never built that team. He added a dash of sprinkles to the cake. that GM position could have almost been vacant after the core was assembled and still got nearly that close. Twins Burr Kes Juice Salo Edler Schneids Luongo Pretty much the biggest most important pieces. Easy to say in hindsight that something more could've been better. Sometimes not making big changes is the move to make. Many GMs have wrecked better teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) 46 minutes ago, filthy animal said: The absolute worst era in canuck history, i dont understand how people can be fans of Benning. People who are just intrested in prospects rather than winning belong with those wanna be scouts at hfboards Results were among the worst, but still got in playoffs twice (albeit one covid cup). JB's main contribution was picking the right draft that formed the core of the current team that may win a cup (EP, QH, BB, Demko), good drafts like McCann, Hoggy, Podz, and some not so good drafts (JV, OJ). Wasn't a total disaster. JB is a good AGM, not a good GM. His trades and contracts were terrible. So was the pro scout team. Edited July 21 by Jaimito 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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