canuck73_3 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Ummm, Bowman replaced Dale Tallon as Chicago GM in 2009. Chicago won 3 cups afterwards in 2010, 2013 and 2015... Yes via the inherited core, how have they been since 2017 again? Oh and a Sexual Abuse cover up too. fantastic work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 This is just more Oiler skullduggery as far as I'm concerned. That's why I was surprised by what I read in the Athletic this morning. I share it out of surprise and can make no comment on the sincerity of Bowman's reported atonement. Sheldon Kennedy’s endorsement Bowman received a significant endorsement earlier this month from Sheldon Kennedy, whose Respect Group works within and outside the NHL to make hockey a more inclusive and safe environment by attempting to identify and root out bullying, abuse, harassment and discrimination. Kennedy said that Bowman, Joel Quenneville and Al MacIsaac reached out to him after their suspensions, but only Bowman received such a lengthy, detailed endorsement. “I was immediately struck by Stan’s genuine care and concern for Kyle, and what could have been done differently,” Kennedy wrote. “During that period, we spoke almost daily about the seriousness of sexual abuse from the victim’s perspective. We didn’t talk about hockey at all. We focused on what went wrong, what he could have done differently and, most importantly, what could be done to prevent this from happening again.” Kennedy wrote that seeing people “accept the truth” and “demonstrate a willingness to change” is what gives him hope in his line of work. “Stan exemplifies this to me,” he wrote, adding that Bowman’s “desire to acknowledge his mistakes and make amends with Kyle was sincere.” Upon Kennedy’s invitation, Bowman worked “nearly full-time hours” in building and running a workshop for three Western Hockey League teams, using his own failure in the Aldrich case as an example. In the wake of the Jenner & Block report that immediately led to his ouster in Chicago, Bowman largely laid the blame at then-president John McDonough’s feet. Kennedy’s letter suggested that Bowman now takes more ownership of his role in the organizational failure. “Stan spoke about how he personally should have been relentless in following up on every conversation and accusation, rather than trusting others to do so,” Kennedy wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Ummm, Bowman replaced Dale Tallon as Chicago GM in 2009. Chicago won 3 cups afterwards in 2010, 2013 and 2015... Toews, Kane, Sharp, Byfuglien, Keith, Seabrook, Ladd, Versteeg and Hjalmarsson were already there in 2008 Edit: I get what you mean Petey, but once the core ran it's course and the GM's role involved more than just being baseline competent, he sent Chicago to the shitter. Edited July 24 by DSVII 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Absolutely disgusting, but not surprising from an organization that consistently disgraces the sport. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Just now, Satchmo said: This is just more Oiler skullduggery as far as I'm concerned. That's why I was surprised by what I read in the Athletic this morning. I share it out of surprise and can make no comment on the sincerity of Bowman's reported atonement. Sheldon Kennedy’s endorsement Bowman received a significant endorsement earlier this month from Sheldon Kennedy, whose Respect Group works within and outside the NHL to make hockey a more inclusive and safe environment by attempting to identify and root out bullying, abuse, harassment and discrimination. Kennedy said that Bowman, Joel Quenneville and Al MacIsaac reached out to him after their suspensions, but only Bowman received such a lengthy, detailed endorsement. “I was immediately struck by Stan’s genuine care and concern for Kyle, and what could have been done differently,” Kennedy wrote. “During that period, we spoke almost daily about the seriousness of sexual abuse from the victim’s perspective. We didn’t talk about hockey at all. We focused on what went wrong, what he could have done differently and, most importantly, what could be done to prevent this from happening again.” Kennedy wrote that seeing people “accept the truth” and “demonstrate a willingness to change” is what gives him hope in his line of work. “Stan exemplifies this to me,” he wrote, adding that Bowman’s “desire to acknowledge his mistakes and make amends with Kyle was sincere.” Upon Kennedy’s invitation, Bowman worked “nearly full-time hours” in building and running a workshop for three Western Hockey League teams, using his own failure in the Aldrich case as an example. In the wake of the Jenner & Block report that immediately led to his ouster in Chicago, Bowman largely laid the blame at then-president John McDonough’s feet. Kennedy’s letter suggested that Bowman now takes more ownership of his role in the organizational failure. “Stan spoke about how he personally should have been relentless in following up on every conversation and accusation, rather than trusting others to do so,” Kennedy wrote. Hm. If I see evidence of change, then I'll believe it. Let's see some action and evidence. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Everyone seems to be blaming Edmonton. But the person who is directly responsible for this is Gary Bettman. He is the one who allowed Bowman and Quenneville to be hired again. If the NHL simply kept both of them suspended indefinitely then we wouldn't be having this issue. I don’t think the NHL would have reinstated both men if Beach was not okay with it. Today at the press conference, Jeff Jackson even said he talked to Beach prior to the hire and he gave him his full support. Edited July 24 by shiznak 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadnbutta Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 The negative press and media distraction will sink them I think. Yes he has Stanley cup pedigree but those years are way behind him. I can't wait to watch these guys crumble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, IBatch said: There are a couple on this forum, why not ask them! I called out Dumb Nuck in the other thread and he at least stated that he'd have a big problem with this child molester lover getting hired. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 12 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Yes via the inherited core, how have they been since 2017 again? Oh and a Sexual Abuse cover up too. fantastic work. They won 3 cups. If Vancouver won 3 cups I wouldn't even be posting on this site anymore. I could die in peace and serenity!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They won 3 cups. If Vancouver won 3 cups I wouldn't even be posting on this site anymore. I could die in peace and serenity!!! If we won 1 cup I'd be fine signing Mikheyev to a Mcdavid contract and watch Jack Campbell let in beach balls from centre ice. Edited July 24 by DSVII 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted July 24 Popular Post Share Posted July 24 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They won 3 cups. If Vancouver won 3 cups I wouldn't even be posting on this site anymore. I could die in peace and serenity!!! Covering up Sexual Abuse is not an acceptable trade for 3 Cups ever. Ridiculous this even has to be explained. 10 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 3 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Covering up Sexual Abuse is not an acceptable trade for 3 Cups ever. Ridiculous this even has to be explained. Bowman is lucky he's not in prison where he belongs. That was criminal negligence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 3 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Covering up Sexual Abuse is not an acceptable trade for 3 Cups ever. Ridiculous this even has to be explained. Except that wasn't what I was replying to. I was replying to how Bowman threw away the core and didn't do anything with it, which is false. He won 3 cups... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brodka Jr Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 12 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Quit smokin' that BC Kush dude! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 34 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Everyone seems to be blaming Edmonton. But the person who is directly responsible for this is Gary Bettman. He is the one who allowed Bowman and Quenneville to be hired again. If the NHL simply kept both of them suspended indefinitely then we wouldn't be having this issue. Really? It's Gary? Does Gary run Edmonton? 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 26 minutes ago, Jess said: Hm. If I see evidence of change, then I'll believe it. Let's see some action and evidence. I find this funny, that someone would have to learn that it's not ok to cover up abuse. That's how pathetic the effort to justify this is. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Really? It's Gary? Does Gary run Edmonton? Both Bettman and the Oilers upper management deserve to be fired for this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 I think it's clear that Katz believes Bowman can put the team over the top and he really doesn't GAF about how it looks. Evander Kane and Corey Perry are good examples of a team that puts character after competitiveness. (at least as they see a competitive lineup) Ghosts already alluded to it, but even though Bowman's dad is widely considered the greatest coach in NHL history, he was absolutely loathed by many of his players. Not quite Eddie Shore territory, but not far off from it either.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 What an absolute disgrace but I can't say I'd have expected anything less from that garbage organization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 7 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Both Bettman and the Oilers upper management deserve to be fired for this. Why? Apparently, Beach gave the Oilers full support in hiring Bowman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Just now, shiznak said: Why? Apparently, Beach gave the Oilers full support in hiring Bowman. Because he should have been banned for life and thrown in prison for this. The Oilers just hired a GM who shouldn't be allowed near the player's children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 19 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Really? It's Gary? Does Gary run Edmonton? No, Gary runs the NHL. Seems like the NHL is okay with people covering up sexual assaults still being employed in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: No, Gary runs the NHL. Seems like the NHL is okay with people covering up sexual assaults still being employed in the NHL. The Browns of the NHL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Seems like the NHL is okay with people covering up sexual assaults still being employed in the NHL. it does. But it doesn't let Katz or his CEO off the hook. It's like saying it's OK for stealing, someone else broke the store window first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Don Brodka Jr Posted July 24 Popular Post Share Posted July 24 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They won 3 cups. If Vancouver won 3 cups I wouldn't even be posting on this site anymore. I could die in peace and serenity!!! I don't know.. I'm sure most Blackhawks fans couldn't give two fucks but I'd have a difficult time as a fan enjoying those Cup wins had I known at the time of those victory's A Canucks video coach was grooming the team's teenaged prospects inviting them back to his place for unwanted blowjobs. THEN! When the player had the courage to speak up about it only to have Management/Coaches cover it up and excuse it because bigger things we're at hand.. Fuck that. So irresponsible. They ruined that kid's life. Everyone involved deserved CRIMINAL charges and should've received a lifetime ban. That entire Franchise deserved some kind of death penalty for their role in that abuse.. & I'm not even going to start about how they willingly wrote a Letter of recommendation for the child predator to go work in a High School fully aware of his behavior. The whole thing is fucking disgusting & for that I say.. Some things are a bit more important than winning a Stanley Cup.. or 3 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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