qwijjibo Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 35 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: So........was trading him out of the question, and if not, why didn't that happen? Recoup a pick at least. No one willing to spend a pick on an AHL goalie when several will be available on waivers 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Not an NHL goalie. Been telling people that since the start of the offseason. Somehow people wanted to roll the dice with him or Silovs. Thank god management went out and got an NHL backup. That was right up there with a third line center and top 4 D in terms of needs for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canucks-waivers-trade-rumours-surround-goalie-spencer-martins-future?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1695928069 Quote He’s in the second year of his contract, which pays him US$775,000, with a slightly lower cap hit of $762,500. Because he is on an NHL deal — and it isn’t an entry-level deal — Martin can’t be assigned to the ECHL without his consent. I would assume that this also applies to Zach Sawchenko. Meaning that Tolopilo is most likely destined for ECHL deployment and Martin should he go unclaimed, would likely be assigned to a new AHL team on a loan until they find a team to take him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 He's in a bit of a weird zone, where he's an elite AHL goalie, but probably not good for more than about 20 NHL games a year, lest he get too overworked. Will probably have a career more as an AHL star than an NHL backup as a result. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canucks-waivers-trade-rumours-surround-goalie-spencer-martins-future?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1695928069 I would assume that this also applies to Zach Sawchenko. Meaning that Tolopilo is most likely destined for ECHL deployment and Martin should he go unclaimed, would likely be assigned to a new AHL team on a loan until they find a team to take him on. I find myself forgetting that Sawchenko isn't some college kid, but rather a guy with some NHL and extensive AHL experience. Almost too deep in net. Won't hurt to have Martin claimed if he is. Sawchenko should be a capable backup. Hoping Tolopilo can get a lot of games starting in Kalamazoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) What team would immediately slot him in the backup position to start the season? ...I could see him easily going unclaimed. Edited September 28, 2023 by Drive-By Body Pierce 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) CFF, and it's trade x he's worth (insert draft pick). Goes unclaimed on waivers. "WHY DIDN'T WE GET A PICK FOR HIM???? Because you need another team to see value. Gone are the days where Pat Quinn could con GM's out of a great player. Edited September 28, 2023 by Ghostsof1915 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Not overly surprising. Soon as we picked up DeSmith, the writing was pretty much on the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: CFF, and it's trade x he's worth (insert draft pick). Goes unclaimed on waivers. "WHY DIDN'T WE GET A PICK FOR HIM???? Because you need another team to see value. Gone are the days were Pat Quinn could con GM's out of a great player. “Hey, it’s Pat. I got this super tough player with great size by the name of Alec Stojanov and he can be yours for the low price of that soft Swede of yours, Markus Naslund.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: “Hey, it’s Pat. I got this super tough player with great size by the name of Alec Stojanov and he can be yours for the low price of that soft Swede of yours, Markus Naslund.” Bingo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Vasi is out, Martin to Tampa via waivers e5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlockerHigh Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, -AJ- said: This seems obvious to me. DeSmith is the backup, so he's going to Abby. If someone claims him, that sucks, but not the end of the world. Silovs can handle starter duties in Abbotsford and Tolopilo might be ready for AHL backup duties. Might be better for his career if someone grabs him to be a #1 in the AHL so he can try to climb back into a back up role in the NHL. It seems he's been passed over with Silovs...Good for our depth if he's not grabbed but better for him if he is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BlockerHigh said: Might be better for his career if someone grabs him to be a #1 in the AHL so he can try to climb back into a back up role in the NHL. It seems he's been passed over with Silovs...Good for our depth if he's not grabbed but better for him if he is. Anyone who claims him does so with the intention of keeping him on the NHL roster. Otherwise he needs to clear waivers again Edited September 28, 2023 by qwijjibo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Can’t see how Martin has any trade value. Rebound control was an issue for him. NHL teams shouldn’t be trading for that. It would be worth taking a flyer on Ty Smith, in the unlikely event that he is still available. Not holding out much hope on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlockerHigh Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Anyone who claims him fies so with the intention of keeping him on the NHL roster. Otherwise he needs to clear waivers again You're correct, but I can't see there being a "lineup" for him. If someone puts a claim in, its probably going to be only one team...could be wrong but I think most teams have goalies of his calibre. A team like Tampa could grab him with Vaselevsky being injured and for extra depth for their AHL team, as their back up will now be their 1A, their AHL starter is probably their NHL backup...leaving a hole at the AHL level (most likely). I see this type of situation as the only type of team who would take him over their own. Edited September 28, 2023 by BlockerHigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 A team like Tampa might claim him as a backup while Vasi is injured and then waive him again once Vasi is back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, -AJ- said: A team like Tampa might claim him as a backup while Vasi is injured and then waive him again once Vasi is back. Doesn't Tampa have only $73000 left of cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjickwillkillyou Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Quick let's get Ty Smith off waivers so we can have two Ty Smith's in the org! Also, thank you for your courage Spencer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Doesn't Tampa have only $73000 left of cap? Not sure if Vasi can go on LTIR with his injury, but if he can, that would free up space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Doesn't Tampa have only $73000 left of cap? I assume Vasi would be on LTIR for the 8-10 weeks. That would allow them to exceed the cap by $9.5m while he's off. Seeing as how he will be back they won't be able to use that to get a long term replacement. But they could pick up a guy who could be waived down the road Edited September 28, 2023 by qwijjibo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, PistolPete13 said: Can’t see how Martin has any trade value. Rebound control was an issue for him. NHL teams shouldn’t be trading for that. It would be worth taking a flyer on Ty Smith, in the unlikely event that he is still available. Not holding out much hope on that. No more defencemen who can't play defence. Smith is another Pouliot and has proven that he's not capable of playing at the NHL level even in an emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: I love you for this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, qwijjibo said: No one willing to spend a pick on an AHL goalie when several will be available on waivers Says you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post qwijjibo Posted September 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Says you. Supported by the fact that he's on waivers rather than traded 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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