The Duke Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 45 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: We trade our 10th in Pods for their 11th. We could use more young depth with a future on D Even trade to me. I’d prefer to keep Podkolzin, but one for one is an even trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Is Soderstrom waiver exempt? He's an interesting player but is he an upgrade on Desharnais or Juulsen at this point. With Hronek signed longterm and Myers signed for the next 3 years I don't see how he fits. Am I missing something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain insano Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 12 minutes ago, fuzzy said: Is Soderstrom waiver exempt? He's an interesting player but is he an upgrade on Desharnais or Juulsen at this point. With Hronek signed longterm and Myers signed for the next 3 years I don't see how he fits. Am I missing something? Internal competition and depth, I think most here will agree Juulsen doesn’t seem like he’s going to be much more than a 7th dman (would love him to prove me wrong) and desharnais is a project, soderstrom in when we need speed injected into the lineup and VD can play vs the heavy physical teams, maybe soderstrom turns into a household name with a new system and coaches 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DexM94 Posted July 25 Popular Post Share Posted July 25 We just re sign Podz for two years. He has the perfect attitude, I really think Tocchet will push him at the limit of his capabilities. you want to take a gamble on another Swede ? Trade Aman or Carlsson Aman for Soderstrom would be not equal, while Carlsson for Soderstrom would be more fair, but just because Soderstrom is RD. don’t touch Hoglander or Podz. Two guys with the good mindset. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 35 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: As @Nucker67 pointed out, Pods has played 137 games to Soderstrom’s 53. Pods has been given more than double the opportunities. Also, it’s well known that defenders take longer to develop. You don't find it head scratching that the team that went and threw picks and prospects at any D-men on the trade market didn't play Soderstrom more than 53 games in his time there? Lol. There were gaping holes on their blueline and they still didn't play him. That's what should be known as a "red flag." We want to trade a guy who actually has shown NHL experience for a guy who couldn't make an AHL level blueline? We say Podz has failed at capitalizing on opportunities (while playing as you mentioned over twice as many games) and claim a guy who has failed at making the most of better opportunities is a better bet. I wouldn't trade Podz for Soderstrom personally. I think our underachiever is better than their underachiever and we aren't desperate for blueliners. I think a deal would be closer to what we traded for Kravtsov. Maybe a 4th or 5th rounder if we're being generous. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 I'd move either podkolzin or hoglander for him -- IF utah also takes poolman. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 If the cost is low sure. His numbers appear to be trending in the right direction, at least at the AHL level. Tocchet coached him in Arizona so he’d be very familiar with the player. Maybe he thinks there’s another level? Personally I think I’d rather poach Broberg from the Greasers. Better size and similar upside offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 WHY?? if this guy can’t make it on a crap team like Arizona/Utah would we make such a big deal about getting him? And some people say Hogz or Podz for him… seriously? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 8 minutes ago, Jigsaw said: WHY?? if this guy can’t make it on a crap team like Arizona/Utah would we make such a big deal about getting him? And some people say Hogz or Podz for him… seriously? Agreed. I don't get it either unless the cost is only a mid/late pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird79 Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 Just now, fuzzy said: Agreed. I don't get it either unless the cost is only a mid/late pick Well yeah Hogs we won't trade, as discussed by management. Podz however there's no guarantee that he puts it together for us, he's had quite a while. Would be great if he did but we have a surplus of decent/good wingers. We don't have a surplus of good RHD and the young ones other than Willander don't have a very high ceiling in all likelihood. So yeah, prospects that aren't working out for either team very well can be swapped. Especially when one is in a position we always typically are short on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 They probably lose him to waivers so dunno, maybe a 3rd or someone off the reserve list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Probably not something you’ll see until training camp, they aren’t taking on anymore contract at this time imo. 49/50. It will be around waiver time when and if they make another move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rusty Shackleford Posted July 25 Popular Post Share Posted July 25 No thanks to trading podz. By some accounts he was having a good season before injury and finished strong upon returning. We all know power forwards take longer to develop 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 minute ago, Rusty Shackleford said: No thanks to trading podz. By some accounts he was having a good season before injury and finished strong upon returning. We all know power forwards take longer to develop exactly. Podz has shown more at the NHL level and has some good indicators he can be a regular now. I'd be fine with something like Hirose, or a 4th, something in that range. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 4 hours ago, tas said: I'd move either podkolzin or hoglander for him -- IF utah also takes poolman. oooh. That’s tempting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 6 hours ago, Grandmaster said: As @Nucker67 pointed out, Pods has played 137 games to Soderstrom’s 53. Pods has been given more than double the opportunities. Also, it’s well known that defenders take longer to develop. Isn't that what they say about power forwards too though? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 5 hours ago, tas said: I'd move either podkolzin or hoglander for him -- IF utah also takes poolman. Why would it matter if they take Poolman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Why would it matter if they take Poolman? Frees up $2.5M cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 3 minutes ago, BPA said: Frees up $2.5M cap space. I mean we’ll get that space either way. Advantage being that cap space accumulates as the season goes along vs LTIR. Allvin didn’t seem like moving his contract was too big of a deal from the sounds of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 17 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I mean we’ll get that space either way. Advantage being that cap space accumulates as the season goes along vs LTIR. Allvin didn’t seem like moving his contract was too big of a deal from the sounds of it. You just answered your own question. Canucks can accrue more cap space at the TD or can go out and acquire a $2.5M player (maybe on D). Not a big deal but still better than having someone on LTIR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 13 minutes ago, BPA said: You just answered your own question. Canucks can accrue more cap space at the TD or can go out and acquire a $2.5M player (maybe on D). Not a big deal but still better than having someone on LTIR. Doesn’t sound like they have any interest in giving up assets in order to dump it so it’s a moot point. We’ll be able to acquire a 2.5 million dollar player regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Offer them Pius Suter, his role has been replaced with the plethora of Forwards we added in free agency 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brodka Jr Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Viking said: Offer them Pius Suter, his role has been replaced with the plethora of Forwards we added in free agency Pius Suter wouldn't even get you a 3rd pairing/#7 Right Handed shot D-Men. *IF* a Soderstrom trade were to go down the return would definitely be one of Podkolzin/Raty.. Thats truly it. You're not moving Lekkerimaki/Willander... Soderstrom ain't worth a 1st.. Perhaps Hoglander no longer fits with all the free agent signings? I see 3 guys.. Other than that unfortunately this team has nothing they can truly move in a Soderstrom trade that would make sense. Unless they move more future 2nd Round draft picks.. Edited July 26 by Don Brodka Jr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spook007 Posted July 26 Popular Post Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Chickenspear said: Isn't that what they say about power forwards too though? Yep..... still waiting for Virtanen... 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 17 minutes ago, Don Brodka Jr said: Pius Suter wouldn't even get you a 3rd pairing/#7 Right Handed shot D-Men. *IF* a Soderstrom trade were to go down the return would definitely be one of Podkolzin/Raty.. Thats truly it. You're not moving Lekkerimaki/Willander... Soderstrom ain't worth a 1st.. Perhaps Hoglander no longer fits with all the free agent signings? I see 3 guys.. Other than that unfortunately this team has nothing they can truly move in a Soderstrom trade that would make sense. Unless they move more future 2nd Round draft picks.. We dont have room anyway we committed 3 years to Myers...Should've just signed Desharnais and fished around for another D with the 3m savings from Myers, But I am not the GM so it didn't happen that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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