Kevin Biestra Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) The Canucks have been overlooking and insulting some Canucks greats. If Biestra ran the show, these faces and numbers would also be looking down at the ice from the stands... RICHARD BRODEUR - Canucks games: 377. Canucks wins: 126. Total NHL and WHA games: 690. Total NHL and WHA wins: 296. - Should have perhaps been the first ROH inductee save for possibly the actual first one Orland Kurtenbach. Led the Canucks almost singlehandedly to their first Stanley Cup final in 1982 and led the league in save percentage, even after losing in the final to Hall of Famer Billy Smith and the dynasty Islanders. Also won the WHA's Stanley Cup with the Quebec Nordiques and got to the final another time. The first true franchise goalie in Canucks history. ANDRE BOUDRIAS - Canucks games: 458. Canucks points: 388. NHL and WHA games: 802. NHL and WHA points: 561. - Like Orland Kurtenbach, one of the original 1970-71 Canucks and also the team's second captain in history. His record for assists in a season stood for decades until Henrik Sedin. Also then went and won the WHA's Stanley Cup on the same Quebec Nordiques team as King Richard. GINO ODJICK - Canucks games: 444. Canucks points: 98. Canucks PIM: 2127. NHL games: 605. NHL points: 137. NHL PIM: 2567 (17th all time). - Part of the 1994 run, memorably was down to nothing but his shoulder pads taking on the entire St. Louis Blues team in a brawl, even scored 16 goals one year. Few players have ever captured the city as he did and anyone watching at the time remembers the chants of Gino, Gino, Gino... TIGER WILLIAMS - Canucks games: 312. Canucks points: 165. Canucks PIM: 1324. NHL games: 962. NHL goals: 241. NHL points: 513. NHL PIM: 3971 (all time record). - Part of the 1982 run and scored 35 goals one year. In fact he scored more career goals than Henrik Sedin and was an NHL All Star. He was in many ways the face of the Canucks and even of the NHL. I think Pat Quinn was even thinking about retiring his jersey. Those are the four stone cold locks that should be up there. And obviously ALEXANDER EDLER will be going up as well but he is sort of in the post retirement minimum window. But I would also err on the side of inclusion with the following... CLIFF RONNING - Canucks games: 366. Canucks points: 328. NHL games: 1137. NHL points: 869. - The only player ever to capture the city more with his exciting play was Pavel Bure. Before Pavel Bure showed up, Ronning had the fans jumping out of their seats. His series against Gretzky's Kings in the early 90s was the best series a Canuck skater has ever had in the playoffs, including Kesler. Ronning was better than Gretzky that year. Even though he had a shorter stay than most ROH candidates, he has remained iconic for and synonymous with the Canucks in ways that longer nesting players never achieve. DOUG LIDSTER - Canucks games: 666. Canucks points: 307. NHL games: 897. NHL points: 343. - His 63 points in a season stood for three decades as a record until Quinn Hughes arrived. Briefly a Canucks captain and generally considered their best defenseman of the 80s (four time winner of the Babe Pratt Trophy as Canucks defenseman of the year). After the Canucks moved on from him he won two Stanley Cups as maybe the greatest 6/7th defenseman in playoff history. TONY TANTI - Canucks games: 531. Canucks points: 470. Canucks goals: 250. NHL games: 697. NHL points: 560. - Had five straight seasons of 39 or more goals. The list of players in NHL history who have done that is quite small. Was a real source of excitement for the fans in the 80s when the team was mostly getting kicked around by the Oilers and Flames. DENNIS KEARNS - Canucks games: 677. Canucks points: 321. NHL totals: same (all seasons were as a Canuck). - Maybe the Canucks' original blueline quarterback. The first ever defenseman to get 60 points (and the former record holder) and still one of only three ever to reach 60. His 55 assists in a season was a team record until Quinn Hughes. And these are some guys who should really at least receive some consideration. GARY SMITH - Canucks games: 188. Canucks wins: 72. NHL and WHA games: 553. NHL and WHA wins: 181. - If you could get in for one season, this would be the guy. Almost singlehandedly got the Canucks their first ever division title in 1974-75, playing nearly every game (72 of them). Was 6th for the Hart Trophy that year and 3rd for what would now be the Vezina, and also got the Canucks their first ever playoff win against the mighty 1970s Canadiens. Won the Vezina Trophy in 1972 and the WHA's Stanley Cup in their final season. I said he would be considered for one season, but he is actually one of rather few players to have two Cyclone Taylor Trophies as Canucks team MVP for the year. DON LEVER - Canucks games: 593. Canucks points: 407. NHL games: 1020. NHL points: 680. - The Canucks' original ironman with over 400 straight games until Linden broke his record in the 90s. Also a Canucks captain and a very good player. PETRI SKRIKO - Canucks games: 472. Canucks points: 373. NHL games: 541. NHL points: 405. - It was once that you couldn't say Tony Tanti without thinking Petri Skriko and vice versa. Did the same thing as Tanti at the same time, just 90-95% as much. Was also something of a legend for Finland in international play. JYRKI LUMME - Canucks games: 579. Canucks points: 321. NHL games: 985. NHL points: 468. - You don't think of him right away as separating himself from the pack of good Canucks defensemen...but he is the all time Canucks record holder for defensemen with 40 playoff points. His 72 playoff games is near the top as well (for all his injuries, Sami Salo is actually 2nd all time with 74). Lumme is also part of a 5-way logjam for 2nd all time for career points in the regular season, and like Doug Lidster sits second only to Quinn Hughes with four Babe Pratt Trophies as Canucks defenseman of the year. RYAN KESLER - Canucks games: 655. Canucks points: 393. NHL games: 1001. NHL points: 573. - Has everything you want except total numbers and being a nice guy. Seems to be mellowing out and going on a bit of a contrition tour. A Selke Trophy and the 2nd best series by a Canucks skater against Nashville in 2011. TODD BERTUZZI - Canucks games: 518. Canucks points: 449. NHL games: 1159. NHL points: 770. - Man, one bad decision and one bad moment can ruin everything. Just ask Marty McSorley, Dale Hunter and Big Bert. DAVE BABYCH - Canucks games: 409. Canucks points: 154. NHL games: 1195. NHL points: 723 (retired around 20th all time in the NHL for defensemen). - Just needed more seasons and games. Had it all, the heart, the charisma, the only regular season hat trick by a Canucks defenseman. Even still he is close enough to Bure (retired jersey) in games that I might put him in the ROH anyway. GARTH BUTCHER - Canucks games: 610. Canucks points: 140. Canucks PIM: 1668. NHL games: 897. NHL points: 206. NHL PIM: 2302 (32nd all time). - A rock on the Canucks blueline and also cut his teeth in the 1982 Stanley Cup Final against the Islanders. One of the team's all time PIM leaders and brought us Ronning, Courtnall, Momesso and Dirk in one trade, before going on to be an NHL All Star himself. PATRIK SUNDSTROM - Canucka games: 374. Canucks points: 342. NHL games: 679. NHL points: 588. - His 91 points in a season was the team record for years until Pavel Bure. Once we traded him to the Devils he became a legend there, scoring 8 points in one playoff game as the team went on an unexpected Cinderella run to the 1988 semifinal. DENNIS VERVERGAERT - Canucks games: 409. Canucks points: 304. NHL games: 583. NHL points: 392. - One of the Canucks' stars of the 70s, peaked at 37 goals and 71 points when the team had very little scoring. Represented the Canucks at the All Star Game and set the record for the fastest two goals. KEVIN BIEKSA - Canucks games: 597. Canucks points: 241. NHL games: 808. NHL points: 278. - One of the faces of the franchise during its most successful era and scored the goal that sent the Canucks to the 2011 Stanley Cup final. Known as one of the best middleweight / cruiserweight fighters of his day. BOBBY LALONDE - Canucks games: 353. Canucks points: 189. NHL games: 641. NHL points: 334. - A three time winner of the team's Most Exciting Player award, he was even shorter than Cliff Ronning at 5'5". Part of the 1974-75 Canucks that won the team's first ever division title and first ever playoff game (against Dryden and Lafleur's Canadiens). A real fan favorite from an unfairly mostly forgotten era. KEVIN McCARTHY - Canucks games: 352. Canucks points: 199. NHL games: 537. NHL points: 258. - The captain of the Canucks who got injured right before the 1982 playoffs and paved the way for Stan Smyl as temporary captain...we know how that turned out. But McCarthy had four of the best seasons ever by a Canucks defenseman all in a row and they stood as four of the best until Quinn Hughes started rewriting the record book. Represented the Canucks at the 1981 All Star Game. CHRIS ODDLEIFSON - Canucks games: 469. Canucks points: 265. NHL games: 524. NHL points: 286. - Canucks captain in the 1970s, a consistent scorer for the team when they really needed goals. DANA MURZYN - Canucks games: 452. Canucks points: 88. NHL games: 838. NHL points: 204. - He doesn't have the offensive numbers of the other candidates on the blueline and is more of the Garth Butcher / Harold Snepsts cloth in that regard, but he was part of those great early 90s teams including 1994, and once held the Canucks' record for +/- in a season if I remember right. Was really strong at the start of his career with the Hartford Whalers, making the All Rookie Team in his first year and receiving All Star votes in his second, then won a Stanley Cup with Calgary (beating us in 1989) before joining the Canucks. The following guys don't have the numbers for the ROH but should be recognized here... CESARE MANIAGO - Canucks games: 93. Canucks wins: 27. NHL games: 568. NHL wins: 190. - Obviously 93 games isn't going to get anyone in, but he is one of very few players in Canucks history to win the Cyclone Taylor Trophy twice as team MVP. As he only played two seasons, he is probably also the only player to win the award every season he played as a Canuck. He finished out the 11th hour of his career in Vancouver but did have quite an impressive and long career with the Minnesota North Stars in the 1960s and 1970s. RON SEDLBAUER - Canucks games: 325. Canucks points: 177. NHL games: 430. NHL points: 229. - The guy just needed some consistency from year to year. He made history in the 1970s as the team's first ever 40 goal scorer (and was top 10 in the NHL that year). IVAN HLINKA - Canucks games: 137. Canucks points: 123. NHL totals: same. Czech totals: tons. - The international legend and namesake of the World Juniors Tournament, he ought to be in the Hockey HOF but is already in the IIHF HOF. He played two seasons as a Canuck, at the end of a career where he had been a legend in the Czech league, and like Igor Larionov hit the ground running. He held the Canucks rookie scoring record until Pavel Bure arrived and was a significant contributor to the 1982 run to the Stanley Cup. JOHN GARRETT - Canucks games: 56. Canucks wins: 22. NHL and WHA games: 530. NHL and WHA wins: 216. - Probably the most memorable backup goalie in Canucks history and in a dead heat with Gary Bromley for the best mask. For the first 20+ years of Canucks history, he and Charlie Hodge were the only two goalies with a record above .500 for their career as Canucks. His nearly winning the 1983 NHL All Star Game MVP is a hockey legend, but most of all he massively adds to his case with his decades of broadcasting for the Canucks, much as Pat Quinn is up there for his management role. Also one of the best goalies in WHA history. BOBBY SCHMAUTZ - Canucks games: 285. Canucks points: 212. NHL games: 764. NHL points: 557. - Canucks career: 1970-1981 (with a break in the middle) - One of the original 1970-71 Canucks and had three really good years for the team. His 38 goals in 1972-73 was the team record at one point and he was one of the very first 70 point players in Canucks history when that achievement was something of a rarity. Came back to Vancouver, Trevor Linden style, to close out his career in 1980-81 at age 35 and had an impressive 61 points in his final season. Represented the Canucks at the 1973 and 1974 All Star Games. CHARLIE HODGE - Canucks games: 35. Canucks wins: 15. NHL games: 358. NHL wins: 153. - This guy is a legend, damn close to a Hall of Famer and maybe he should be in. Two Vezina Trophies, twice a 2nd Team All Star as 2nd best goalie in the league, twice finished in the top 5 for the Hart Trophy, and split goaltending duties with Gump Worsley to win a Stanley Cup for the Canadiens. Along with John Garrett, one of the only two goalies to have a career winning record as a Canuck in the team's first 20+ years...and Hodge did it in the original 1970-71 lineup that went 24-46-8 as a team. He was above .500 that year...in his final season in the NHL as an aging veteran. DUNC WILSON - Canucks games: 148. Canucks wins: 34. NHL games: 287. NHL wins: 80. - Canucks career: 1970-1979 (with a break in the middle) - Along with Charlie Hodge, the first goalie in Canucks history and a member of the inaugural 1970-71 team. Like Trevor Linden and Bobby Schmautz, came back home to Vancouver for his final season to close out his career. In 1976-77 he was voted 4th best goalie in the league as the starter for the Penguins, one spot below what would today have been a Vezina finalist. DALE TALLON - Canucks games: 222. Canucks points: 137. NHL games: 642. NHL points: 346. - Forever remembered in Vancouver as the guy we got because we lost the spin for Gilbert Perreault, Tallon got off to a great start in Vancouver. He was 5th for the Calder Trophy as rookie of the year but should have either been 2nd or won it. His 56 points on the blueline broke Bobby Orr's rookie record in the NHL, and did so in 1970-71 as one of the original Canucks. He was traded pretty early in his career but could have been a real cornerstone of the team throughout the 70s. Represented the Canucks at the 1971 and 1972 All Star Games. JOCELYN GUEVREMONT - Canucks games: 227. Canucks points: 132. NHL games: 571. NHL points: 307. - His 52 points as a rookie defenseman for the Canucks in 1971-72 would have broken Bobby Orr's record and set the new NHL one if Dale Tallon hadn't just done it the year before. Was so promising in his early career that he was part of the 1972 Team Canada Team against the Russians for the legendary Summit Series. Represented the Canucks at the 1974 All Star Game. GARY BROMLEY - Canucks games: 73. Canucks wins: 25. NHL and WHA games: 203. NHL and WHA wins: 85. - His skull mask was legendary and inspired the look of the villain goalie in the movie Youngblood. He was voted 8th best goalie in the NHL as the Sabres' starter in 1974-75. If nothing else his and John Garrett's masks should be honored somewhere in the rink. Edited July 31 by Kevin Biestra 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Geoff Courtnall or Greg Adams could get some consideration as well. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: Geoff Courtnall or Greg Adams could get some consideration as well. I agree they deserve mention. Geoff's regular season games isn't even at 300 though...but boy does he make up for it with his playoff numbers. Adams was great as well...he always just didn't seem to have the "it" factor that guys like Ronning and Tanti and Skriko did. Scored a hell of an important goal though. "Greg Adams, Greg Adams, Greg Adams!" With respect to the "it" factor, another guy like that was Brent Ashton, just piled up his 60 or 70 points every year, reliable like clockwork, and then at the end people were like...who? Mike Rogers had three 100 point seasons in a row in the NHL and people were like...who? Adams might have been the only Canuck along with McLean and Linden who was there for both the legendary 1989 Flames series and the 1994 Cup run. GEOFF COURTNALL - Canucks games: 292. Canucks points: 246. NHL games: 1048. NHL points: 799. - Despite his brief stay in terms of seasons, he is up there among the Canuck greats in all time playoff numbers with 61 points in 65 games (still 5th all time after all these years in points). GREG ADAMS - Canucks games: 489. Canucks points: 369. NHL games: 1056. NHL points: 743. - 34 points in 53 playoff games, 11th all time for playoff points. Edited July 27 by Kevin Biestra 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 I don’t know why, but I thought Courtnall had played more games for us. Maybe he just had that much of an impact. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Snoop Hogg said: I don’t know why, but I thought Courtnall had played more games for us. Maybe he just had that much of an impact. He did have an impact. When he first arrived with Ronning in that trade for Butcher, he, Ronning and Linden were the "Life Line" and absolutely took the city by storm. Like I said earlier in the thread, Ronning in 91 or 92 against the Kings was the best series I have ever seen a Canucks skater have in the playoffs. He outplayed Gretzky during the series. Linden and Courtnall were his linemates. Also I remember a few years back Ronning was asked in an interview who was the best teammate he ever had and he said Geoff Courtnall. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 A bra should be hanging from the rafters in honor of the 'Brabarian' Jeff Cowan the 3rd Sedin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 @Snoop Hogg Another guy almost exactly in Geoff Courtnall territory is Darcy Rota. DARCY ROTA - Canucks games: 289. Canucks points: 236. NHL games: 794. NHL points: 495. - He had 42 goals and 81 points in the 1982-83 season (voted 5th best LW in the league), his last full year before a career ending injury in the middle of the next campaign. He was just hitting his peak and it all ended right there. A significant part of the 1982 Cup run as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 14 minutes ago, Canuck You said: A bra should be hanging from the rafters in honor of the 'Brabarian' Jeff Cowan the 3rd Sedin. I second this notion! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 What about Canucks legends Mats Sundin and Rory Fitzpatrick? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: What about Canucks legends Mats Sundin and Rory Fitzpatrick? Great idea. I vote for Rory. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 (edited) I think one should have played as a Canuck to get their foot in the door to be inducted for additional duties for the Canucks, as has already happened with PAT QUINN and as I suggested might be appropriate for JOHN GARRETT. But nonetheless some names that make me want to consider it despite not having played as a Canuck or who should be permanently honored in some other way at the arena: For sure... TOM LARSCHEID BABE PRATT FRANK and EMILY GRIFFITHS Maybe... ALAIN VIGNEAULT JOHN SHORTHOUSE JAKE MILFORD TONY GALLAGHER (I'm hard pressed to think of a more iconic columnist) I believe there is already stuff named after Jim Robson, but I would have a bronze statue outside of a broadcast desk with Robson and Larscheid and two empty seats at the desk where fans or tourists could sit with the legends and get their picture taken. Edited July 27 by Kevin Biestra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Kevin Biestra said: I think one should have played as a Canuck to get their foot in the door to be inducted for additional duties for the Canucks, as has already happened with PAT QUINN and as I suggested might be appropriate for JOHN GARRETT. But nonetheless some names that make me want to consider it despite not having played as a Canuck or who should be permanently honored in some other way at the arena: For sure... TOM LARSCHEID BABE PRATT FRANK and EMILY GRIFFITHS Maybe... ALAIN VIGNEAULT JOHN SHORTHOUSE JAKE MILFORD TONY GALLAGHER (I'm hard pressed to think of a more iconic columnist) I believe there is already stuff named after Jim Robson, but I would have a bronze statue outside of a broadcast desk with Robson and Larscheid and two empty seats at the desk where fans or tourists could sit with the legends and get their picture taken. They should make a Robson and Larscheid centrepiece, similar to that of Statler & Waldorf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 All jokes aside, could Alex Mogilny be considered for a ROH induction? I know he didn’t play for us that long and was during some lean times, but he still produced offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Just put everyone in there....some of your choices are lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyone Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 John Garrett should have his name enshrined in the concourse next to the food stands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Snoop Hogg said: All jokes aside, could Alex Mogilny be considered for a ROH induction? I know he didn’t play for us that long and was during some lean times, but he still produced offensively. He had that one really good year with 100 points but I think he's more of an NHL Hall of Famer than someone who would be enshrined forever for his contributions to the Canucks. He was a fantastic player but he never really captured the hearts of fans the way guys like Tiger, Gino, Ronning, Snepsts and King Richard did even though they won't be in the HOF but Mogilny eventually will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Just now, Kevin Biestra said: He had that one really good year with 100 points but I think he's more of an NHL Hall of Famer than someone who would be enshrined forever for his contributions to the Canucks. He was a fantastic player but he never really captured the hearts of fans the way guys like Tiger, Gino, Ronning, Snepsts and King Richard did even though they won't be in the HOF but Mogilny eventually will. You mean he’s not already in the HOF? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 Just now, Snoop Hogg said: You mean he’s not already in the HOF? Wow. Yeah he and Theoren Fleury are two of the mysteries. But they have recently been clearing up the backlog of guys who had to wait 20+ years...Mike Vernon, Tom Barrasso, Rogie Vachon, Pierre Turgeon, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Yeah he and Theoren Fleury are two of the mysteries. But they have recently been clearing up the backlog of guys who had to wait 20+ years...Mike Vernon, Tom Barrasso, Rogie Vachon, Pierre Turgeon, etc. Fleury isn’t in either? Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Snoop Hogg said: Fleury isn’t in either? Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. Heh yeah, here is my similar thread about the Hall of Fame. You'll see a few more names that aren't in there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kevin Biestra said: The following guys don't have the numbers for the ROH but should be recognized here... CESARE MANIAGO - Canucks games: 93. Canucks wins: 27. NHL games: 568. NHL wins: 190. - Obviously 93 games isn't going to get anyone in, but he is one of very few players in Canucks history to win the Cyclone Taylor Trophy twice as team MVP. As he only played two seasons, he is probably also the only player to win the award every season he played as a Canuck. He finished out the 11th hour of his career in Vancouver but did have quite an impressive and long career with the Minnesota North Stars in the 1960s and 1970s. RON SEDLBAUER - Canucks games: 325. Canucks points: 177. NHL games: 430. NHL points: 229. - The guy just needed some consistency from year to year. He made history in the 1970s as the team's first ever 40 goal scorer. IVAN HLINKA - Canucks games: 137. Canucks points: 123. NHL totals: same. Czech totals: tons. - The international legend and namesake of the World Juniors Tournament, he ought to be in the Hockey HOF but is already in the IIHF HOF. He played two seasons as a Canuck, at the end of a career where he had been a legend in the Czech league, and like Igor Larionov hit the ground running. He held the Canucks rookie scoring record until Pavel Bure arrived and was a significant contributor to the 1982 run to the Stanley Cup. JOHN GARRETT - Canucks games: 56. Canucks games: 22. NHL and WHA games: 530. NHL and WHA wins: 216. - Probably the most memorable backup goalie in Canucks history and in a dead heat with Gary Bromley for the best mask. For the first 20+ years of Canucks history, he and Charlie Hodge were the only two goalies with a record above .500 for their career as Canucks. His nearly winning the 1983 NHL All Star Game MVP is a hockey legend, but most of all he massively adds to his case with his decades of broadcasting for the Canucks, much as Pat Quinn is up there for his management role. Also one of the best goalies in WHA history. I'd give an honorable mention to Jiri Bubla. Yes, he tarnished his image from that drug smuggling conviction but he's seemed to have turned his life around (setting up a local business in BC, paid his debt to society, etc.,). Was still involved in the Canucks alumni stuff I think. His turning his life around due in no small part to Pat Quinn who was able to use his leverage/position to let his small business be involved in cleaning the old Pacific Coliseum. A guy who made a bad mistake but rehabiliated & has been a productive member of society. Heh, great "fighting" technique where he'd bearhug an opponent. Even at his age, he was still pretty strong. His "style" seemed to fit really well in the old "clutch & grab" days (as he wasn't afraid of the physicality). Edited July 27 by NewbieCanuckFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourHuckleberry Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Hard to blame the brass when you yourself snubbed some of the all-time greats: - Rory “All-Star” Fitzpatrick - Jeff “The Bra-Barian” Cowan - Jan “Bu-lay Bu-lay” Bulis - etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: I'd give an honorable mention to Jiri Bubla. Yes, he tarnished his image from that drug smuggling conviction but he's seemed to have turned his life around (setting up a local business in BC, paid his debt to society, etc.,). Was still involved in the Canucks alumni stuff I think. His turning his life around due in no small part to Pat Quinn who was able to use his leverage/position to let his small business be involved in cleaning the old Pacific Coliseum. A guy who made a bad mistake but rehabiliated & has been a productive member of society. Heh, great "fighting" technique where he'd bearhug an opponent. Even at his age, he was still pretty strong. His "style" seemed to fit really well in the old "clutch & grab" days (as he wasn't afraid of the physicality). Yeah the Canucks had some great European scouting leading up to that Cup run in 82...Bubla, Hlinka, Gradin, Lars Molin, Lars Lindgren. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Yeah the Canucks had some great European scouting leading up to that Cup run in 82...Bubla, Hlinka, Gradin, Lars Molin, Lars Lindgren. Still decent European scouting to this day. A shame our domestic (BC/Rest of Canada) isn't remotely as good. A disgrace (imho) a guy like Brendan Gallagher (just *ONE* example), who played pretty much right in our own backyard wasn't drafted by us (not like he was a high draft pick). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Personally, I think adding all these would lower the bar too much. I like that there's still significant exclusivity to the ROH. Edler will get in, but I'd leave everyone else out. Kesler and Horvat are the two on the fringe IMO. There could also be a case for Odjick's inclusion given his community involvement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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