Popular Post AnthonyG Posted July 27 Popular Post Share Posted July 27 First off I would like to apologize to everyone here for my heated debates here on the forums. I hope that you all can understand it comes from a deep set passion for hockey and being a diehard fan of this team. I’ve played competitive hockey my entire life. My passion for the sport and this team are as strong as it gets, as many of you are just the same. We may not always agree or see eye to eye but I would hope that we can have an open mind and be receptive of each others take. I see the general take on every matter, I just take a different approach to how I see it from the other side. I find it as a way to maybe reduce some of the negativity if people try eating from the other side of the table. I fight for positive light on negative topics. I always aim to look at the positive in any situation. I’ve always brought stats and facts to the table to shed light on certain matters that may help provide an understanding of certain player performances, season shortcomings or whatever it is. Or even just a more in depth look at players recently acquired to give a better idea to people who aren’t aware who a guy like Teddy Bleuger is, or Forbort etc. I would to apologize and have a fresh start over with the moderators, general public of the forums and particularly @Alflives @Gawdzukes @48MPHSlapshot @Provost @MeanSeanBean @Bob Long If someone could pass along the apology to the names mentioned above. As I am most definitely on their ignore list after several heated exchanges, that would be greatly appreciated. To the forum moderators I apologize for the heated debates, unnecessary overtop comments and getting so wrapped up and not just that for just engaging in such arguments that I could just as easily ignore and choose not to. Which is my own fault for not taking the high road and avoiding shit and causing things to spiral off topic. My passion for the sport and this team gets the best of me at times and I am sorry and hope that you can all forgive me and have a bit more of an understanding that I am a Canuck fan at heart and we are all cheering and supporting the same team and we will all be celebrating a Stanley cup win within the next 3 years. The future is bright, the window has just opened and beneath that window is a healthy growing garden of up and coming prospects that will continue to extend this window and play critical roles in Vancouver winning its first Stanley cup and I truly believe this core is on the up at the perfect time to win multiple cups in under 7 years. I love this team, I love coming to the forums and getting into the analytics and providing research on things that we can look forward to, so please let’s have a start over because I do wish to have these conversations and debates with all of you, I don’t want to have to block someone and not hear what they have to say and possibly back them up on their point or provide my angle and see if it changes someone’s view towards something positive. 12 4 12 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Kudos for owning it, not always an easy thing to do. Looking forward to further contributions. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe-Kerr Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Never stop defending benning!! we love you! He is the foundation to this team right now, all hail! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Penance is forever. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 All GM's (like head coaches) of sports teams are "hired to be fired" (granted there are the rare exceptions). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Westcoasting Posted July 28 Popular Post Share Posted July 28 Honestly you’re just doing what we all do… putting our opinions out there. There is actually no right and no wrong, it is just an opinion. The people you mentioned specifically are all quality dudes and may offer differing opinions as well… it’s just part of the forum process. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RWMc1 Posted July 28 Popular Post Share Posted July 28 I personally think the only thing you need to apologize for are the insults when you became frustrated. You at least were using facts to back up your position while others were merely restating narratives. And also the posters who were arguing with you resorted to some despicable comments directed at you as well so I can understand your frustration. Go Canucks Go!!!!! 1 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 48MPHSlapshot Posted July 28 Popular Post Share Posted July 28 5 hours ago, AnthonyG said: If someone could pass along the apology to the names mentioned above. As I am most definitely on their ignore list after several heated exchanges, that would be greatly appreciated. You good, fam It takes a lot more than a disagreement for me to block someone. Even though I disagree with some of your takes pretty vehemently, I applaud you for not biting your tongue and being willing to voice your opinions. This place would be pretty boring if we all agreed about everything. 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilgore Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 No worries AnthonyG I've had my heated arguments with you. Mostly about Benning's legacy....weak as it is That's what this place if for. Nothing is personal from me. I appreciate and respect someone like you who will at least engage in a discussion, even if it gets heated. More than someone unwilling to even speak up. Hey if everyone agreed in here, it would be a pretty boring place. And I say all that knowing that we very well may be in the thick of it again, in the not to distant future. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, RWMc1 said: I personally think the only thing you need to apologize for are the insults when you became frustrated. You at least were using facts to back up your position while others were merely restating narratives. And also the posters who were arguing with you resorted to some despicable comments directed at you as well so I can understand your frustration. Go Canucks Go!!!!! This. There's nothing better then a good hockey debate, it's literally the reason why we are all waste our free time here. But the frequency @AnthonyG you devolve into petty name calling is the reason why I found you to be a crappy contributor to our forum in the past. If your planning on knocking that off, I look forward to having actual debates in the near future. I will always thank you for helping me win poster of the day that one time though. Me calling you out on your bullshit was the sole reason why I won that award haha 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Keep the fiery passion my friend - good on ya for the self reflection 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted July 28 Author Share Posted July 28 42 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: This. There's nothing better then a good hockey debate, it's literally the reason why we are all waste our free time here. But the frequency @AnthonyG you devolve into petty name calling is the reason why I found you to be a crappy contributor to our forum in the past. If your planning on knocking that off, I look forward to having actual debates in the near future. I will always thank you for helping me win poster of the day that one time though. Me calling you out on your bullshit was the sole reason why I won that award haha I just stepped up with a genuine apology and this is your response? seriously?? try appreciation, maybe apologize in return for your own antics and ignorance. Or just accept the apology and move on and agree to start over. Not sit here and stroke yourself off because of things in the past that are so long ago. Crappy contributors don’t provide any true facts and evidence, only closed mind opinions. I have continually brought in depth analytics to back my points. You and I don’t see eye to eye because you refuse to believe in statistics and you won’t put in the effort to do your own research to back your own argument. I’ve broken down so many of the most heated debates and shown the numbers that have backed my perspective and as of right now my view on the organization and how it was run the last 9 years has put us in a contender conversation sooner than 10 other perpetually rebuilding organizations and that the age swing was going to favour us in this time period as of 2-3 years ago when I broke it down. To call me a crappy contributor and to respond like this….. what’s the point of taking any accountability if this is going to be the response of a particular individual who I specifically named and wanted to start over with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GrammaInTheTub Posted July 28 Popular Post Share Posted July 28 15 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: I just stepped up with a genuine apology and this is your response? seriously?? try appreciation, maybe apologize in return for your own antics and ignorance. Or just accept the apology and move on and agree to start over. Not sit here and stroke yourself off because of things in the past that are so long ago. Crappy contributors don’t provide any true facts and evidence, only closed mind opinions. I have continually brought in depth analytics to back my points. You and I don’t see eye to eye because you refuse to believe in statistics and you won’t put in the effort to do your own research to back your own argument. I’ve broken down so many of the most heated debates and shown the numbers that have backed my perspective and as of right now my view on the organization and how it was run the last 9 years has put us in a contender conversation sooner than 10 other perpetually rebuilding organizations and that the age swing was going to favour us in this time period as of 2-3 years ago when I broke it down. To call me a crappy contributor and to respond like this….. what’s the point of taking any accountability if this is going to be the response of a particular individual who I specifically named and wanted to start over with. One of those moments to not engage 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 11 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: I just stepped up with a genuine apology and this is your response? seriously?? try appreciation, maybe apologize in return for your own antics and ignorance. Or just accept the apology and move on and agree to start over. Not sit here and stroke yourself off because of things in the past that are so long ago. Crappy contributors don’t provide any true facts and evidence, only closed mind opinions. I have continually brought in depth analytics to back my points. You and I don’t see eye to eye because you refuse to believe in statistics and you won’t put in the effort to do your own research to back your own argument. I’ve broken down so many of the most heated debates and shown the numbers that have backed my perspective and as of right now my view on the organization and how it was run the last 9 years has put us in a contender conversation sooner than 10 other perpetually rebuilding organizations and that the age swing was going to favour us in this time period as of 2-3 years ago when I broke it down. To call me a crappy contributor and to respond like this….. what’s the point of taking any accountability if this is going to be the response of a particular individual who I specifically named and wanted to start over with. I said you we're crappy in the past with your personal attacks. Which I felt you understood since you just issued a public apology.. whatever man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Having done one of these before, apologizing is something that we ALL should be doing at one point or another. Many people don't do it. It's almost like they are too ashamed to admit what they did or thought was bad/wrong. I used to post under a different alias (before the changeover), but I decided to try and change with a new name because I plan on leaving that behind me. I wasn't banned, so no, I'm not dodging anything I find that I agree with you with a lot @AnthonyG So don't put away your opinions. Maybe just simmer the passion down a little. I am saying this to remind myself not to get TOO riled up because sometimes online posts (not just me) can get me so rattled. Take a break from posting if you have to. Validation from others is temporary. Validation for yourself is much more permanent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, AnthonyG said: I just stepped up with a genuine apology and this is your response? seriously?? try appreciation, maybe apologize in return for your own antics and ignorance. Or just accept the apology and move on and agree to start over. Not sit here and stroke yourself off because of things in the past that are so long ago. Crappy contributors don’t provide any true facts and evidence, only closed mind opinions. I have continually brought in depth analytics to back my points. You and I don’t see eye to eye because you refuse to believe in statistics and you won’t put in the effort to do your own research to back your own argument. I’ve broken down so many of the most heated debates and shown the numbers that have backed my perspective and as of right now my view on the organization and how it was run the last 9 years has put us in a contender conversation sooner than 10 other perpetually rebuilding organizations and that the age swing was going to favour us in this time period as of 2-3 years ago when I broke it down. To call me a crappy contributor and to respond like this….. what’s the point of taking any accountability if this is going to be the response of a particular individual who I specifically named and wanted to start over with. Words that are said versus words that are read have often very different outcomes and results. Try and keep that in mind. But you're right. Some people don't want to listen and some people don't want to question what they read. No matter what you (or anyone else) does, nothing will change them. It's why we see people who follow cults. Only they can get themselves out (or not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-19 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 This is the first post you made where I didn't think you were a bot/paid poster/someone close to Benning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs and Podz Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, AnthonyG said: I just stepped up with a genuine apology and this is your response? seriously?? try appreciation, maybe apologize in return for your own antics and ignorance. Or just accept the apology and move on and agree to start over. Not sit here and stroke yourself off because of things in the past that are so long ago. Crappy contributors don’t provide any true facts and evidence, only closed mind opinions. I have continually brought in depth analytics to back my points. You and I don’t see eye to eye because you refuse to believe in statistics and you won’t put in the effort to do your own research to back your own argument. I’ve broken down so many of the most heated debates and shown the numbers that have backed my perspective and as of right now my view on the organization and how it was run the last 9 years has put us in a contender conversation sooner than 10 other perpetually rebuilding organizations and that the age swing was going to favour us in this time period as of 2-3 years ago when I broke it down. To call me a crappy contributor and to respond like this….. what’s the point of taking any accountability if this is going to be the response of a particular individual who I specifically named and wanted to start over with. Opinion: Marchant never needed to be dirty, he was more than good enough to let his skill, effort and heart guild him. (I believe he'd have at least one more cup) Instead, he's always felt like he had to do more, prove more... But as a result, some of his shitty actions have overshadowed his most important elite traits. Let your knowledge and fact finding abilities shine through.... Don't allow some of these posters, drag you down to play dirty... It makes it hard to follow you when you go there. It stains all your hard work. Cheers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 The Empties say it’s all good@AnthonyG 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brodka Jr Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Unless you fucked one of the Mods sister, girlfriend, wife and or mother and never called them again you shouldn't ever apologize for SHIT here! Forget even this forum.. Never give a shit about what other people think of your opinions in this world period! Fuck those guys! Say what you truly feel on this message board & stand by it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Always appreciated your posts @AnthonyG, no matter how astounding the convo went, your knowledge and experiences shone through, whether I agreed or not. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 S'all good, man. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 9 minutes ago, Bob Long said: S'all good, man. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 15 hours ago, AK-19 said: This is the first post you made where I didn't think you were a bot/paid poster/someone close to Benning. To be honest, I think taking these kinds of positions is what is hurting our "critical thinking" faculties. It is TOO easy to assume someone is a 'bot' or a poster paid by Benning. It's practically nonsense. We almost all have different opinions of Benning. Some think he's "not that bad". Some think he's the "worst GM ever". The reality is that there's shades of truth from multiple sides. Overall, I agree with someone's quote that we have lost the ability to disagree with people (quote borrowed from Vlog Through History, Youtuber = It's ridiculous that we are even entertaining this idea at all in discussions. No one would be paid money to pump up Gillis or Benning in this day and age. Both are GMs who are long gone and who knows what jobs they have right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 16 hours ago, MeanSeanBean said: I said you we're crappy in the past with your personal attacks. Which I felt you understood since you just issued a public apology.. whatever man. He understood nothing.It lasted few minutes before he went back.Dont waste time in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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