GrammaInTheTub Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyone Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 a sign n trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Walks him right to UFA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 26 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Walks him right to UFA I'm really beginning to question Carolina's management team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'm really beginning to question Carolina's management team. I reckon he'll be traded before walking, but still, tough offseason for Carolina Going from contenders to maybe just playoff regular 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 (edited) Well that lowers his trade value substantially I would think. Sign him to a one year deal to allow a trade to materialize and have the receiving team still have club control and the ability to extend for a long term deal…. Or don’t sign him and do a sign and trade or let teams talk to him about a long term extension to up his value. Now a team can’t even trade for him and extend him as part of the trade to make sure they aren’t just getting a rental. They have handcuffed possible suitors. Edited July 29 by Provost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 51 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Walks him right to UFA Where we can sign him for even longer tern. Allvin cooking without even cooking. Damn good GM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, Provost said: Well that lowers his trade value substantially I would think. Sign him to a one year deal to allow a trade to materialize and have the receiving team still have club control and the ability to extend for a long term deal…. Or don’t sign him and do a sign and trade or let teams talk to him about a long term extension to up his value. Now a team can’t even trade for him and extend him as part of the trade to make sure they aren’t just getting a rental. They have handcuffed possible suitors. So they screwed themselves over? I can't see Necas staying long term in Carolina. My prediction is that he's going to bolt as soon as he's a UFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 33 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'm really beginning to question Carolina's management team. Carolina has a management team? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 could see Carolina giving him a huge 8 year in two years time, with loads of fresh cap by then in annuall increases...might be a gent's agreement on doing just that when the time comes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 18 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: So they screwed themselves over? I can't see Necas staying long term in Carolina. My prediction is that he's going to bolt as soon as he's a UFA. He already told them he wants out. Im not sure what they’re doing. They could have still got quite a bit for him in a trade. Now he has complete control. He’ll ask for 10-11 mil on his next deal or he walks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 (edited) 21 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Where we can sign him for even longer tern. Allvin cooking without even cooking. Damn good GM. Lolwut, we don’t have to reach that far to pat him on the back Edited July 29 by Coconuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Hadn’t he filed for arbitration. He was probably specifying a 2 year deal in Arb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 47 minutes ago, DeNiro said: He already told them he wants out. Im not sure what they’re doing. They could have still got quite a bit for him in a trade. Now he has complete control. He’ll ask for 10-11 mil on his next deal or he walks. the only way he gets traded next offseason is if teams get to negotiate with him, which tends to make trades a lot more complex. Weird move by Carolina. Looking at their current roster, it sure looks like another round 1 exit if they make it that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rocket-68 Posted July 29 Popular Post Share Posted July 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: Carolina has a management team? Carolina Management brought to you by Ringling Brothers. Edited July 29 by Rocket-68 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 hours ago, HKSR said: I'm really beginning to question Carolina's management team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Going down hill since their revenge offer sheet went south. Good look on the clowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 7 hours ago, HKSR said: I'm really beginning to question Carolina's management team. like i said earlier.. that's what you get with a GM with 0 GM experience and worked as an analyst for the team.. with completely irrelevant education background.. if they wanted him to be the GM.. at least groom he a few years ago as an AGM.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 6 hours ago, DeNiro said: He already told them he wants out. Im not sure what they’re doing. They could have still got quite a bit for him in a trade. Now he has complete control. He’ll ask for 10-11 mil on his next deal or he walks. 10-11 million? What am I missing about Necas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 9 hours ago, bh90 said: 10-11 million? What am I missing about Necas Im just throwing a number out. Im saying he’s gonna ask for way more than he’s worth cause he’ll have all the leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Martin walking to UFA , will be dealt at some point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-68 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) How the world turns, seems like Necas kiboshed some trades, well one for sure. https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2024/07/report-martin-necas-blocked-trade.html Ding-ding-dingaling-uump-pa-pa-pa-ding-ding .... circus music playing in the background as the Carolina Ringmaster comes out to introduce the Carolina Management Team for 2024-2025. Edited July 30 by Rocket-68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 20 minutes ago, Rocket-68 said: How the world turns, seems like Necas kiboshed some trades, well one for sure. https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2024/07/report-martin-necas-blocked-trade.html Ding-ding-dingaling-uump-pa-pa-pa-ding-ding .... circus music playing in the background as the Carolina Ringmaster comes out to introduce the Carolina Management Team for 2024-2025. He didn’t have a signed contract or long term club control, but Carolina wanted a huge return for him like he was signed to a long term team friendly contract. Of course the teams who were prepared to spend those sorts of assets wanted a signed long term extension as part of it. The player didn’t scuttle anything, he has no ability to do so. He just didn’t agree to help Carolina maximize their trade return by committing to a bottom feeder for most of the rest of his career. Totally fair thing to do. Now Carolina has completely screwed themselves. A two year deal that walks him to free agency and at the same time now blocks a receiving team from negotiating an extension means he is a rental for anyone trading for him and that limits the return. Sign a one year deal and look at the trade market in season or the deadline where more suitors may be available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olli Juolevi Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 18 hours ago, Coconuts said: Lolwut, we don’t have to reach that far to pat him on the back Speak for yourself 12 hours ago, wai_lai416 said: like i said earlier.. that's what you get with a GM with 0 GM experience and worked as an analyst for the team.. with completely irrelevant education background.. if they wanted him to be the GM.. at least groom he a few years ago as an AGM.. Tulsky has spent the last 4 seasons as AGM and spent the two seasons prior as Director of Analytics/VP of Hockey Management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Tulsky may be good with numbers but he’s horrible with strategy. It’s mind boggling they would sign a player to a contract that walks him right to free agency at 27. They let the player gain leverage on them when the player had none. If you can’t get him long term then sign him to a 1 year deal. That way he’s still an RfA and a trading team can negotiate an extension. He completely eliminated any chance of getting a big package for him. No one is gonna offer huge value for a player with that much leverage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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