If the Canucks had to trade either Hughes OR Pettersson who would you pick?

[IBatch]

2 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said:

 

Yeah Bourque was the Gordie Howe of defensemen.  22 seasons, 19 of them a 1st or 2nd team All Star.  Worst he ever was voted by the experts at any point was 7th best defenseman in the league...around where Hall of Famer Kevin Lowe peaked in his best season.  Coffey was the hare in the all time defenseman scoring race, Bourque was the tortoise...but with four 90+ point seasons I think not exactly a slow moving one.

If Potvin didn't play all those playoff games, and played four more years without the body issues, have to think he'd be right there too. 

[Kevin Biestra]

5 minutes ago, IBatch said:

If Potvin didn't play all those playoff games, and played four more years without the body issues, have to think he'd be right there too. 

 

Yeah maybe.  Coffey just piled up points in his prime like Orr (and then it wasn't over at 26) whereas Bourque never really aged or slowed down.

 

Anyway I have the same top five that you mentioned.  Sixth...several names competing there.  I'd be perfectly happy with any of Macinnis, Lidstrom, Leetch, Park, Chelios, Stevens etc. as a #6 d-man.

 

 

Edited August 11 by Kevin Biestra

[EastCoastExpress]

What a doomsday question. If I have nightmares tonight its your fault. Its like asking if Canucks did not exist would you love Oilers or Flames.

Just a horrible topic man.

[Pure961089]

As much as it would pain me, I'd have to part with defenceman Elias Pettersson. 

Edited August 12 by Pure961089

[LillStrimma]

On 8/6/2024 at 12:37 AM, iceman1964 said:

How do you know Petey hasn't reached his peak already and that's it?  What if what we have saw out of him past and present is his max? I'm not saying it's bad, but what if that's it and the best we can do is get him premium linemates to make the best of what he has already?

With your way of thinking we should change the question.

Wich one of the guaranteed Hughes 3 years and Petey 8 years will you choose?

 

Has Petey peaked?

Will Hughes leave after 3 years? 
 

[LillStrimma]

4 hours ago, Pure961089 said:

As much as it would pain me, I'd have to part with defenceman Elias Pettersson. 

I would have to agree here.

It’s a real pain as I would love to see two EP on the ice together…

[kettlevalley]

Quinn may finish his career in the top 10 of dmen all time for points.  We need to keep Quinn at all costs.  Petey is a top center in the league, but Quinn is one of the top 2 young Dmen.  Maybe history will say Quinn is better maybe Cale.  But history will discuss those two in the same breath as the greats.  

[IBatch]

7 hours ago, kettlevalley said:

Quinn may finish his career in the top 10 of dmen all time for points.  We need to keep Quinn at all costs.  Petey is a top center in the league, but Quinn is one of the top 2 young Dmen.  Maybe history will say Quinn is better maybe Cale.  But history will discuss those two in the same breath as the greats.  

That sure would be something.   To put it into perspective, if he plays 10 more seasons (16 total) would have to average over 60 points per.   To pass Potvin would have to average over a point per game in all 82 games..wowzers.    Personally feel he's going to have some rough patches, like EK   So far hasn't had many post season miles on the body.   Feel 800 is almost a certainty with or without injuries, 900-1000 attainable with luck on his (our side).   Like everyone else, stats were padded given the torrid start.   For awhile 100 points seemed possible.    Erik Karlsson has a chance of making it into the top ten if he can play until 37.   Expect him to have one more high point season in him.   For QHs, the sky is the limit.   Could catch up and surpass a PPG pace over the next couple seasons.   Which is awfully rare.  Lidstrom only ever had exactly one PPG season, 80 points in 80 games the year after the lockout.   Just like Zubov at 37, who cranked out 71 or so points too (and in 94 led the NYR in scoring), a lot of old guys  had a resurgence after the lockout and posted some big numbers.    QHs doesn't have to play in that environment, so agree he's got a shot at passing Chelios.   

[Spiked Alia]

On 8/6/2024 at 4:36 AM, Elias Pettersson said:

It’s a slow summer day, nothing else to talk about!!!  Who you got?  Who gets traded?

 

I would trade Pettersson over Hughes:

 

Trading Elias Pettersson could be a strategic move that addresses multiple needs for the Canucks, potentially setting them up for greater long-term success. Here’s how trading Pettersson could be beneficial:

1. Addressing Multiple Needs:

• Depth at Center and Defense: By trading Pettersson, the Canucks could acquire a strong, reliable center who might not be as individually talented as Pettersson but is still capable of handling top-six duties. Additionally, the trade could bring in a top-pairing right-handed defenseman (RD), which has been a significant need for the Canucks. This would give Quinn Hughes a strong partner, allowing him to maximize his offensive and defensive potential.

2. Enhancing Team Balance:

• Balancing the Roster: The Canucks currently have one of the best left-handed defensemen in Quinn Hughes, but the lack of a top RD partner has hindered their defensive unit. Trading Pettersson could give the Canucks a more balanced lineup, with a stronger top-four defense that can better compete against elite teams. This could help the team reduce goals against, leading to more consistent success.

3. Long-Term Team Building:

• Building a Well-Rounded Team: The Canucks could use the assets acquired in a Pettersson trade to build a more well-rounded team. A strong RD partner for Hughes and a solid center to replace Pettersson, along with potential prospects or picks, could create a more balanced and deeper roster. This would allow the Canucks to compete not just now but in the future as well, as they build around a core that includes Hughes, Thatcher Demko, and other emerging talents.

4. High Trade Value:

• Maximizing Return: Pettersson is an elite player, and his trade value is incredibly high. The Canucks could capitalize on this by securing a massive return, potentially including a top center, a top-pair RD, and additional assets like draft picks or prospects. This kind of return could be transformative for the franchise, providing immediate help while also setting up the team for future success.

5. Hughes as the Face of the Franchise:

• Quinn Hughes as the Core Piece: With Pettersson traded, Quinn Hughes could fully emerge as the face of the franchise. Building around a star defenseman is a solid strategy, and with a top-pairing RD partner, Hughes could elevate his game even further. The Canucks could then focus on adding complementary pieces around Hughes to create a team built on strong defense, which is a key to winning championships.

6. Potential Cap Flexibility:

• Salary Cap Management: Trading Pettersson could provide the Canucks with more flexibility under the salary cap. While they would need to pay the incoming assets, they might be able to structure contracts in a way that offers more flexibility in future seasons. This could allow the team to add other key pieces through free agency or trades.

Conclusion:

Trading Elias Pettersson could be a bold move that addresses several critical needs for the Canucks. By acquiring a strong center and a reliable top-pairing RD, the team could become more balanced and competitive, both in the short and long term. While losing Pettersson would be difficult, the overall improvement in team structure and depth could ultimately lead to greater success for the franchise.

[Satchmo]

1 hour ago, Spiked Alia said:

 

I would trade Pettersson over Hughes:

 

Trading Elias Pettersson could be a strategic move that addresses multiple needs for the Canucks, potentially setting them up for greater long-term success. Here’s how trading Pettersson could be beneficial:

1. Addressing Multiple Needs:

• Depth at Center and Defense: By trading Pettersson, the Canucks could acquire a strong, reliable center who might not be as individually talented as Pettersson but is still capable of handling top-six duties. Additionally, the trade could bring in a top-pairing right-handed defenseman (RD), which has been a significant need for the Canucks. This would give Quinn Hughes a strong partner, allowing him to maximize his offensive and defensive potential.

2. Enhancing Team Balance:

• Balancing the Roster: The Canucks currently have one of the best left-handed defensemen in Quinn Hughes, but the lack of a top RD partner has hindered their defensive unit. Trading Pettersson could give the Canucks a more balanced lineup, with a stronger top-four defense that can better compete against elite teams. This could help the team reduce goals against, leading to more consistent success.

3. Long-Term Team Building:

• Building a Well-Rounded Team: The Canucks could use the assets acquired in a Pettersson trade to build a more well-rounded team. A strong RD partner for Hughes and a solid center to replace Pettersson, along with potential prospects or picks, could create a more balanced and deeper roster. This would allow the Canucks to compete not just now but in the future as well, as they build around a core that includes Hughes, Thatcher Demko, and other emerging talents.

4. High Trade Value:

• Maximizing Return: Pettersson is an elite player, and his trade value is incredibly high. The Canucks could capitalize on this by securing a massive return, potentially including a top center, a top-pair RD, and additional assets like draft picks or prospects. This kind of return could be transformative for the franchise, providing immediate help while also setting up the team for future success.

5. Hughes as the Face of the Franchise:

• Quinn Hughes as the Core Piece: With Pettersson traded, Quinn Hughes could fully emerge as the face of the franchise. Building around a star defenseman is a solid strategy, and with a top-pairing RD partner, Hughes could elevate his game even further. The Canucks could then focus on adding complementary pieces around Hughes to create a team built on strong defense, which is a key to winning championships.

6. Potential Cap Flexibility:

• Salary Cap Management: Trading Pettersson could provide the Canucks with more flexibility under the salary cap. While they would need to pay the incoming assets, they might be able to structure contracts in a way that offers more flexibility in future seasons. This could allow the team to add other key pieces through free agency or trades.

Conclusion:

Trading Elias Pettersson could be a bold move that addresses several critical needs for the Canucks. By acquiring a strong center and a reliable top-pairing RD, the team could become more balanced and competitive, both in the short and long term. While losing Pettersson would be difficult, the overall improvement in team structure and depth could ultimately lead to greater success for the franchise.

AI bots sure write like AI bots don't they?   Can you also write bad poetry?    

[Provost]

Obviously Petterson. 

Petterson is top 10 in his position in the league.  Hughes is in the top three, and as we have seen, depending on the season can be #1.



 

[Guntrix]

The answer is a no brainer.

 

And the fact that so many people can see how much more valuable Hughes is renews my faith in CDC. 

[The Lock]

lol I misread the question and thought I was answering that I'd rather keep Hughes.