Iron Fist Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 WHYYY? i dunno about the return. but why the oilers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: Id be happier if poolman had gone with him. I doubt Edmonton would have taken on that contract with their cap problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: Dont like giving him to the evil empire either. Troyan horse maybe ?????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 15 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Why? He’s trending bust to replacement player… Your the only one with common sense! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Snoop Hogg said: I doubt Edmonton would have taken on that contract with their cap problems. I know, but at least I'd be happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 3 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: Better than a third. Especially to a division rival. There’s gotta be another trade coming to make this make sense for me. I love the guy, but he hasn’t done enough to warrant a much higher draft pick. I’m not happy about this, but more because of what team he got sent to. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, Iron Fist said: WHYYY? i dunno about the return. but why the oilers Considering it's Ottawa's 4th it's likely the highest pick offered and I imagine they aren't worried about him coming back to bite them in the ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I expected him to be dealt after training camp when he failed to make the team. Don't see the upside that some people here do. Don't mind this trade at all, he was a failed pick. The last time he's put up good offensive numbers, in any league, is back in 2017. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Even if hes a dud and we lose on waivers, I hate this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Crossbar Posted August 18 Popular Post Share Posted August 18 Well, Podz recently did an interview in Russian mentioning his development trajectory, the challenges, his playing time and how he needs more trust and playing time to take his game to new heights. He also recently talked to the media about why Kuz was traded and how Kuz got a fresh start. He was well aware of his situation and the challenges he faced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he, himself, actually wanted a fresh start. 4 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe King Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 14 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Welp there goes the Russians Do we have any left in our system. We don't seem to have a lot of luck with Russian players lasting in our organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyCareBear Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Podkolzin was a "meh" player. If it were for a 3rd and to another team, I'd actually be perfectly ok with it. The only reason it's bad is because he's gone to the oilers and its for a 4th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Maybe we'll get him back off waivers 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) Seems like a crappy return, but we signed guys who beat him out and he and Hoglander can't be waived this year or be lost for nothing. I had posted a while back that one of them wouldn't likely be on the roster by the time the season started, not enough roster spots and they won't develop in the press box. I had thought Hoglander would be the one going as he would actually have some value with his production and low cap hit. I would have thought they could trade him as a sweetener for Poolman's contract to a team that isn't going to be at the cap ceiling for basically nothing in return and we end up better off. Karlsson came in and looked like he could be surpassing Podkolzin, so the loss itself isn't a big deal. I personally basically hold no value in 4th round picks or later as they almost never pan out. You can get equivalent or better prospects direct from Europe of unsigned college free agents. Debrusk-Petterson-Hoglander Heinen-Miller-Boeser Joshua-Suter-Garland Sherwood-Blueger-Sprong PDG Edited August 18 by Provost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 $1,000,000 Vasily Podkolzin signed a 2 year , $2,000,000 contract with the Vancouver Canucks, including $2,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,000,000. In 2024-25, Podkolzin will earn a base salary of $1,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $1,000,000. every dime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Joe King said: Do we have any left in our system. We don't seem to have a lot of luck with Russian players lasting in our organization. Yeah, we have at least one and I can’t spell his name. It’s my Iranian tobacco accent. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 minutes ago, Ronaldoescobar said: Yikes… his value sure went down a lot more than most thought. Well he is slow of foot for a modern top 6 and not defensive minded enough for a modern bottom six and he isn't an enforcer or or or.. he is a good hockey player and I liked him but I guess it was obvious he wouldn't make the big club and we would lose him on waivers. After that, it is up to the interest generated to determine the return. Market just said he is worth a 4th. Hard to argue with market price on a time limited commodity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, HuggyCareBear said: Podkolzin was a "meh" player. If it were for a 3rd and to another team, I'd actually be perfectly ok with it. The only reason it's bad is because he's gone to the oilers and its for a 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 That's all you could get for him? Really? And trade him in the division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lemon Face Posted August 18 Popular Post Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Well, Podz recently did an interview in Russian mentioning his development trajectory, the challenges, his playing time and how he needs more trust and playing time to take his game to new heights. He also recently talked to the media about why Kuz was traded and how Kuz got a fresh start. He was well aware of his situation and the challenges he faced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he, himself, actually wanted a fresh start. People have hard time to understand we are not second tier team anymore. 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 3 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Well, Podz recently did an interview in Russian mentioning his development trajectory, the challenges, his playing time and how he needs more trust and playing time to take his game to new heights. He also recently talked to the media about why Kuz was traded and how Kuz got a fresh start. He was well aware of his situation and the challenges he faced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he, himself, actually wanted a fresh start. Then he should have been traded for another player in a similar situation. Instead they traded him to our biggest rival and a team we have to pass to win the cup. This is a failed move. I don’t care what anyone says 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, Devron said: Then he should have been traded for another player in a similar situation. Instead they traded him to our biggest rival and a team we have to pass to win the cup. This is a failed move. I don’t care what anyone says So trade him for another disappointing player that likely wouldn't make a top tier club but would probably be claimed on waivers anyway? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I would not be doing Edmonton any fkin favours and that is exactly what this is. A deal with the devil 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Wel I hope Alvin and Rutheford at least got a bottle of scotch from the oilslicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 4 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said: $1,000,000 Vasily Podkolzin signed a 2 year , $2,000,000 contract with the Vancouver Canucks, including $2,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,000,000. In 2024-25, Podkolzin will earn a base salary of $1,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $1,000,000. every dime. There almost has to be another move coming at some point. We just get farther from the cap so if we put Poolman on LTIR we won't get his full cap hit as overage relief. They had it worked to within $15k of the ceiling so would have been able to put Poolman on LTIR and gotten to exceed the cap by almost his entire salary whenever they wanted to replace him in season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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