BabyCakes Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 49 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Why do we even bother discussing things then? Edm must think somehing of him though, so theres that. Edmonton only thinks of him being cheaper than Holloway. Nothing more 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LaBamba Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Only in Vancouver would people give a crap about a useless bust like Vasily Podkolzin. You don’t think they called around the league? This guy has shown absolutely nothing so you get nothing in return. Good riddance. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 4 minutes ago, gwarrior said: I guess the writing was on the wall for Podz. Bringing in Sprong probably didn't help his case. But my biggest issue is trading him in the division. Are you telling me NOBODY in the east would take a chance on him for a 4th rounder? Teams in the east would be. "Who?" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophomore Jinx Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 33 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Is the ex a young power fwd that could still visit your house and lay big hits on your new partner on a regular? If they got into a new, long distance relationship, sure. Wont have to see him as much. Anyway, not worried...at all. Just think its one of Alvins few , dumb moves. And I simplify it to being neither good nor bad, rather one of PA's necessary moves... And IMHO, Podz was NOT a "young power forward", he was a neutered, trending downward tweener, who hasn't put it all together in spite of several opportunities. Podz was quickly becoming like that box of Graham Wafer crumbs that you've been looking at in the recesses of the pantry for years, and you've finally decided that it is not going to be used, so off to the dirt pile with it...(in this case, the dirt pile is the Coilers) Edited August 19 by Sophomore Jinx 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, BabyCakes said: Edmonton only thinks of him being cheaper than Holloway. Nothing more Thats something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe King Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 38 minutes ago, VforVasili said: Time for yet another name change. 34 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: PforPetey? No with his luck Petey will be lost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Honestly I do not know if Pods would work out. I think some of us are putting a lot of faith in him because we all want him to be become something more based on his draft position, plus our love for the guy like Kuzmenko. A 4th round pick is not the best but it is probably his value now. HOWEVER, why Edmonton? None of the other 30 teams are interested? Seems like Edmonton is collecting former high round picks to make their prospect pool look better than it is. It seems like there has been to be something more as well, but this could just be us freeing up a space for someone from the farm jumping up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NoHeart said: Only in Vancouver would people give a crap about a useless bust like Vasily Podkolzin. You don’t think they called around the league? This guy has shown absolutely nothing so you get nothing in return. Good riddance. Maybe I’m guessing here but I’d think people in different cities are also passionate about their teams Edited August 19 by Devron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfan68 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Wing said: Honestly I do not know if Pods would work out. I think some of us are putting a lot of faith in him because we all want him to be become something more based on his draft position, plus our love for the guy like Kuzmenko. A 4th round pick is not the best but it is probably his value now. HOWEVER, why Edmonton? None of the other 30 teams are interested? Seems like Edmonton is collecting former high round picks to make their prospect pool look better than it is. It seems like there has been to be something more as well, but this could just be us freeing up a space for someone from the farm jumping up.. I would imagine that maybe Edmonton was not their first call but close to their last…the market spoke and said “4th rounder” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 19 minutes ago, 4petesake said: Pretty sure a team can’t trade a player after matching an offer sheet for one year. But nobody has matched or signed that offer sheet ? The offer can be there , but he can be offered another ? Y/ N? .. and it doesn't have to be the same value? IF (hypothetically ) the Podz deal was for a 4th and the ability to talk to Broberg and his Camp while he sits on the Offer sheet .. that’s possible ? Isn’t it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Just now, Sophomore Jinx said: And I simplify it to being neither good nor bad, rather one of PA's necessary moves... And IMHO, Podz was NOT a "young power forward", he was a neutered, trending downward tweener, who hasn't put it all together in spite of several opportunities. Podz was quickly becoming like that box of Graham Wafer crumbs that you've been looking at in the recesses of the pantry for years, and you've finally decided that it is not going to be used, so off to the dirt pile with it...(in this case, the dirt pile is the Coilers) Oh, I hope you realise that me calling it 'dumb' is just my opinion. I am not a professional hockey executive. I assume EDM, doesn't share you opinion though. Unless they were in the market for a neutered tweener on a slide. Strange strategy but it is edm, they are known for daft things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmok Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 10 minutes ago, Westcoasting said: One thing I see mentioned is how we are helping out Edm. I guess I just don’t get it how this player helps them out. He looked terrible n the Canucks last year. Um.. because clearly Edmonton wants him and thinks he is worth giving some time. Or are you of the opinion that the cap strapped oilers did the canucks a favor by giving a 4th for a 10th overall that just turned 23 two months ago and has at times looked good in both the AHL and NHL and KHL. A 4th is nothing. They would have been better off not giving Edm a POTENTIAL win and just losing him on waivers to someone else. But I find it hard to believe there isn't a single team in the league outside the division that would not have taken a flyer on a 23yr old 10th OA for a 4th, 5th or prospect exchange. Its a bad move unless it is directly linked to some other secret maneuver. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 12 minutes ago, Devron said: Hoglander next? Trust Allvin. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyCakes Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Wing said: Honestly I do not know if Pods would work out. I think some of us are putting a lot of faith in him because we all want him to be become something more based on his draft position, plus our love for the guy like Kuzmenko. A 4th round pick is not the best but it is probably his value now. HOWEVER, why Edmonton? None of the other 30 teams are interested? Seems like Edmonton is collecting former high round picks to make their prospect pool look better than it is. It seems like there has been to be something more as well, but this could just be us freeing up a space for someone from the farm jumping up.. Edmonton is doing nothing other than looking for a cheaper roster player that can replace Holloway. Nothing more. They are desperate and need this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-68 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: But nobody has matched or signed that offer sheet ? The offer can be there , but he can be offered another ? Y/ N? .. and it doesn't have to be the same value? IF (hypothetically ) the Podz deal was for a 4th and the ability to talk to Broberg and his Camp while he sits on the Offer sheet .. that’s possible ? Isn’t it ? I don't think that is possible. Only options are (1) match, back to Edmonton and no trading for 1 year or (2) onto Sy Louis.... could always negotiate with St Louis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 4 minutes ago, gwarrior said: I guess the writing was on the wall for Podz. Bringing in Sprong probably didn't help his case. But my biggest issue is trading him in the division. Are you telling me NOBODY in the east would take a chance on him for a 4th rounder? You have to think Edmonton is making this trade to help make a decision on the Broberg/Holloway offer sheets. Rule #1 - never help the oil. Rule #2 - if you break rule #1 you better be bending them over. A 4th seems like a return you might have got elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 11 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Teams in the east would be. "Who?" Anybody with a 4th rounder willing to take a chance? I think my biggest worry is he finds chemistry with mcdumpster baby or whine-saitl and he comes back to haunt us.......... alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Just now, Dr. Crossbar said: Trust Allvin. I do as a whole but I will question some of the moves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophomore Jinx Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Oh, I hope you realise that me calling it 'dumb' is just my opinion. I am not a professional hockey executive. I assume EDM, doesn't share you opinion though. Unless they were in the market for a neutered tweener on a slide. Strange strategy but it is edm, they are known for daft things. Opinions are great, that's why we're here. And the Coil are fooked right now, so MY opinion is that absolutely they will take a flyer on a "neutered tweener on a slide" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 6 minutes ago, 4petesake said: You have to think Edmonton is making this trade to help make a decision on the Broberg/Holloway offer sheets. Rule #1 - never help the oil. Rule #2 - if you break rule #1 you better be bending them over. A 4th seems like a return you might have got elsewhere. This trade make it look like they've made a decision on Holloway. But yeah, I think they could have got a 4th for him outside the division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, rmok said: Um.. because clearly Edmonton wants him and thinks he is worth giving some time. Or are you of the opinion that the cap strapped oilers did the canucks a favor by giving a 4th for a 10th overall that just turned 23 two months ago and has at times looked good in both the AHL and NHL and KHL. A 4th is nothing. They would have been better off not giving Edm a POTENTIAL win and just losing him on waivers to someone else. But I find it hard to believe there isn't a single team in the league outside the division that would not have taken a flyer on a 23yr old 10th OA for a 4th, 5th or prospect exchange. Its a bad move unless it is directly linked to some other secret maneuver. How did Jake Virtanen work out for them? Listen this happens every year in hockey, one team wants to find a cheap player that needs a change… once in a while it does work out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NoHeart said: Only in Vancouver would people give a crap about a useless bust like Vasily Podkolzin. You don’t think they called around the league? This guy has shown absolutely nothing so you get nothing in return. Good riddance. We created about 30 pages of discussion in 2 hours when we acquired Emersen Etem. It's what we do. Edited August 19 by nuckin_futz 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 5 minutes ago, SilentSam said: But nobody has matched or signed that offer sheet ? The offer can be there , but he can be offered another ? Y/ N? .. and it doesn't have to be the same value? IF (hypothetically ) the Podz deal was for a 4th and the ability to talk to Broberg and his Camp while he sits on the Offer sheet .. that’s possible ? Isn’t it ? No. They Oilers have to match and keep him for a year or let him go. And he can't be traded before the decision is announced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 The only remaining question I have is WHY DID WE AID THE OILERS? Are we getting Kane at the deadline for free? WTF is this? STL has their nuts in a vice and we just throw them a bone? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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