IBatch Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 27 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Good post and description. Obviously all the minds involved in the decision looked at it and all concluded he simply wasn't a strong candidate to add something useful to the team. I get that he might have looked better in camp but we also should trust this management to make these decisions after their pro scouting record to date. I mean it's a tough decision, but it's been made. Lots of hockey players simply don't perform as expected and every one of them has an expiry date. This one was pulled off the shelf after what I'm sure was very careful deliberation by those in charge. Aman is a center and also a important and good PKer. He is far more valuable then Pods. He becomes the 4th line center if any of Petey, Miller, Blueger, or Suter gets injured, or Suter moves to the wing for any reason. He's not going anywhere unless we bring in another center. PDG definitely outperformed Pods last year and added value to the team. Pods added nothing. PDG is not overly great in my mind but it seems the coaching staff think he's noticeably better than Pods. I have no problem with the fourth round pick at all, That's what a completely stalled prospect is worth. Actually, we probably did better than we should have. He's not worth much of anything right now. I love that this management cares enough to move the team forward unlike Benning who was content to just let assets walk away. We need every little edge we can get and we should by hyper vigilant imo. Winning the Cup is extremely tough, as are these decisions. I don't know either but it has looked like he forgot how to play hockey. His one decent season was years ago and he's done nothing at all in the last 2 years. When he did play he was just there. A passenger who accomplished nothing, although to his credit played well enough positionally and defensively to not get caved in. Exactly Doc! There were multiple players passing him and he didn't factor into our planning. You can only give him so much time before you have to move on. Like you mentioned some players simply need a fresh start. I think that is often the impetus which ultimately kicks a lot of them in the ass and pushes them to figure it out. One thing people should consider is that those coaches/FO see them every day at practice, know their routine, training, communications, ect. Most of us really don't see any of that. The last sentence. That's so true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 If the rumour is true that Podz was outspoken in the room about Ukrainians and the war that that was why he got traded to Edmonton, as only Edmonton would take on that kind of character. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Just now, Jester13 said: If the rumour is true that Podz was outspoken in the room about Ukrainians and the war that that was why he got traded to Edmonton, as only Edmonton would take on that kind of character. I heard Mikheyev liked to kick puppies in his spare time… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Was looking forward to seeing him in training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 44 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Exactly Doc! There were multiple players passing him and he didn't factor into our planning. You can only give him so much time before you have to move on. Like you mentioned some players simply need a fresh start. I think that is often the impetus which ultimately kicks a lot of them in the ass and pushes them to figure it out. One thing people should consider is that those coaches/FO see them every day at practice, know their routine, training, communications, ect. Most of us really don't see any of that. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if Millstein helped that along to get him that fresh start. I can understand the need for a fresh start from Podz's perspective as well. It would be hard to keep having hope after five years when the goal posts keep moving with all the changes, guys are passing you by, and the team keeps bringing in more experienced players. Like you say, that could be the impetus for him to figure it out. Good point about what we don't see. You're right about management, coaching staff, etc, being so close. So many jump to conclusions, make assumptions, and want things to be true. The reality is that there's so much more to things like this we'll never know. Some things aren't meant for public knowledge. It happens in all walks of life and business. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 35 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I heard Mikheyev liked to kick puppies in his spare time… IF that is true, then, as a dog dad, I'm glad we traded him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzey Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 49 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I heard Mikheyev liked to kick puppies in his spare time… And Zadorov complained about the Asian drivers in Richmond! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted August 20 Popular Post Share Posted August 20 If Mik can't hit a stationary net, how can he hit a puppy? 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 57 minutes ago, IBatch said: JV had a higher ceiling and better tools. Podz appeared to have a better floor, a guy capable of carving out a career as a bottom six specialist. Yeah, exactly. Jake was the most frustrating player I’ve ever watched, but he did score 18 one year. He was bigger, faster, better than Podz. Different players, and we whiffed on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: If Mik can't hit a stationary net, how can he hit a puppy? Yeah. Besides, I heard he grabs cats by their tails and swings them around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 7 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: If Mik can't hit a stationary net, how can he hit a puppy? Never said he was good at it… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Do we have any russians left? On the team, I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 7 hours ago, IBatch said: True. MT is at least on par with EP as well. Still you need star power to succeed in this league. The 82 team made it on character and a lot of good players, none great. 94 and 2011 teams had the star power too. QHs and EP flexed a bit in the bubble, not as much their second crack at it. I get what you're saying, the tricky thing is cap too. JT Miller is one of those draft picks as well. If we had those players we prolly be competing if not already won a cup haha who knows if MT would have stayed but nylander is good in the playoff. Along with miller etc we would be very deep in the top 6 and wouldn’t have made a bunch of trades like garland and oel and or make a bunch of signings that ended up costing picks to move etc. but water under the bridge now. I personally think our window with this core is shrinking fast. Realistically miller will be at his peak for maybe couple more seasons.. then we have to deal with the Demko contract. If he’s wanting 8+ not sure how we stomach that. Outside of bob I don’t think there’s even a goalie out there won a cup over 7mil? Or anywhere close to 9% of the cap. Then we have the Hughes contract. Too many new body on offence and defence. I don’t think we will be off to the blazing starts and spend the 1st month or so working on chemistry and the right combination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, Jester13 said: If the rumour is true that Podz was outspoken in the room about Ukrainians and the war that that was why he got traded to Edmonton, as only Edmonton would take on that kind of character. do you have any idea how many ukrainians are in edmonton? they call it edmonchuk for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 7 minutes ago, tas said: do you have any idea how many ukrainians are in edmonton? they call it edmonchuk for a reason. Yea that stuff will not go over with that fan base if they hear about it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 41 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Do we have any russians left? On the team, I mean. Nope none we got rid of them all this off season lol!!! We are pro team USA and Sweden!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 53 minutes ago, Swizzey said: And Zadorov complained about the Asian drivers in Richmond! Yeah I heard he loves Chinese food and always goes to Richmond to eat there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: Never said he was good at it… It’s a good thing we didn’t end up signing Phil, who crushes a dozen or so dogs-a-weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 5 hours ago, Canucks2333 said: People do have the right to speak their opinions, as I did mine, yet for some reason you felt targeted. All I wanted to get across was people need to look at the big picture before reacting as they do. He wasn’t making the current roster and isn’t waiver eligible. What else did you expect them to do? There are many better players now in the minors that will get opportunity before him. Could they have gotten better? Maybe. Would you rather have lost him for nothing? That is what would have happened. What was meant by my post is, take a step back, look at why these moves happen. Don’t over react. If this made you feel attacked I apologize. That was not my intention. No worries, I didn't feel targeted or attacked in the slightest, I don't care nearly enough for that. I just think toxic positivity is hindrance to good conversation and expressed myself as such. Simple as that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 30 minutes ago, RolexSub said: Nope none we got rid of them all this off season lol!!! We are pro team USA and Sweden!! We are goldstar can take their show elsewhere lol I guess we still have klim who's represented by Milstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 2 hours ago, Jester13 said: If the rumour is true that Podz was outspoken in the room about Ukrainians and the war that that was why he got traded to Edmonton, as only Edmonton would take on that kind of character. Where are you hearing that rumour? So far the only place I have heard that from is one dude one a fan forum who's source was trust me bro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 8 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: Where are you hearing that rumour? So far the only place I have heard that from is one dude one a fan forum who's source was trust me bro. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 48 pages for a 13th forward… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, wai_lai416 said: If we had those players we prolly be competing if not already won a cup haha who knows if MT would have stayed but nylander is good in the playoff. Along with miller etc we would be very deep in the top 6 and wouldn’t have made a bunch of trades like garland and oel and or make a bunch of signings that ended up costing picks to move etc. but water under the bridge now. I personally think our window with this core is shrinking fast. Realistically miller will be at his peak for maybe couple more seasons.. then we have to deal with the Demko contract. If he’s wanting 8+ not sure how we stomach that. Outside of bob I don’t think there’s even a goalie out there won a cup over 7mil? Or anywhere close to 9% of the cap. Then we have the Hughes contract. Too many new body on offence and defence. I don’t think we will be off to the blazing starts and spend the 1st month or so working on chemistry and the right combination. Cap sure screws with the best laid plans. MT in Vancouver (or MTL), likely signed for 10.5 (taxes and even that is a lot less then 9.5 in Florida), Nylander's last deal would be similar here (and was considered a big expense when signed). JT Millers was a sweetheart deal, and his current one is very good value too. So hard to say how that would have affected the rest of the bunch. Canucks have two more cracks at it and need the cap to go up quite a bit to jam in Brock, QHs, and Demko. The latter, well the team truly needs Silovs to work out to keep the window open at the very least. Lekkermaki and Willander and Silovs all need to work out really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 37 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: 48 pages for a 13th forward… Just wait until we trade one of Brock, Demko or QHs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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