Sneakystink Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 11 minutes ago, Toni Zamboni said: This is what I think of every time this guy posts typing with his two index fingers into his keyboard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks2333 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 On 8/20/2024 at 12:51 PM, CanucksJay said: I just don't know if Podz is that much worse than guys like Aman, PDG etc. I would have preferred to let him compete for a spot this camp rather than trading him for a lottery ticket 4th round pick. I just don't see how a kid who played 79 games in the NHL as a 20 Yo putting up 26 pts and a +7 and 9th highest scorer on the team all of a sudden forgot to play hockey. Even then I loved that his hockey iq was high. He made the correct plays every single time. Is not like we were a bottom feeding team that year. I think we finished 10th in the west. It's not the names you are giving that they are needing space for. It is the players like Sherwood, Sprong and even providing an oportunity for Lekerimaki. The first 2 definitely have spots and have earned them. I think Lekerimaki also had more of what we need arguably and I don't think it will be long for him to get to the big club. When it comes doen do it, the biggest thing was the possibility of losing Podz for nothing to waivers when he isn't a clear winner over some of the other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Listening to NHL Network just now. Pods is the Oilers youngest forward making McD the next oldest. Crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Canucks2333 said: It's not the names you are giving that they are needing space for. It is the players like Sherwood, Sprong and even providing an oportunity for Lekerimaki. The first 2 definitely have spots and have earned them. I think Lekerimaki also had more of what we need arguably and I don't think it will be long for him to get to the big club. When it comes doen do it, the biggest thing was the possibility of losing Podz for nothing to waivers when he isn't a clear winner over some of the other options. Sherwood made the team. Lek is not ready. Sprong most likely has 12F secured unless he looks bad at camp Im just talking this year where the 13th spot is still up for grabs between Aman PDG and perhaps 12F if Sprong looks lost in his own zone. I would rather take one more look at Podz where he can compete directly at camp and then lose him on waivers rather than giving him to the oilers for a 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gawdzukes Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 hours ago, Ballisticsports said: I think getting married and having a baby and now traded should do that, it just depends if he can turn it on, (I remember us being surprised when after drafting him that the Russians were playing him low minutes at the bottom of their lineup) Canucks didn't have a spot for him and want to win now, I think they will flip that 4th sometime this year to shore up a position they will need help in as the year progresses, (they don't need to use it right away in case of injuries as well) Spot on. That stuff really makes you realize if you truly are doing 100% and doing it correctly ... cause you have to now. That 4th is definitely in play, as are all of our assets for the right piece. Podkolzin was a poor pick but he was also developed horribly. He's the type of guy who should develop on the 3rd or 4th line with no pressure on a mediocre team but of course Benning spent all of our money on expensive grinders. They should have just kept him in the minors until now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Lock Posted August 21 Popular Post Share Posted August 21 (edited) On 8/19/2024 at 9:46 PM, steviewonder20 said: Thats true, but how many teams flubbed 3 high picks (5th, 6th and 10th) in a 6 year period? A lot more than you think. Even if you look at someone like Edmonton: Yakupov (1st overall), Puljujarvi (3rd overall), Paajarvi (10th overall) Or look at Columbus in the 2000's: Leclaire (8th overall), Picard (8th overall), Brule (6th overall), Filatov (8th overall)... that's 4 in 8 years And these are the 1st 2 teams I looked at. I'm sure you could go through the history of other NHL teams and find poor streaks of high end 1st round picks. I've never understand why fans what to associate us as being the ONLY team who has periods of drafting poorly. That's clearly not going to be the case and you would have seen that had you actually done some homework on it. Edited August 21 by The Lock 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 39 minutes ago, The Lock said: A lot more than you think. Even if you look at someone like Edmonton: Yakupov (1st overall), Puljujarvi (3rd overall), Paajarvi (10th overall) Or look at Columbus in the 2000's: Leclaire (8th overall), Picard (8th overall), Brule (6th overall), Filatov (8th overall)... that's 4 in 8 years And these are the 1st 2 teams I looked at. I'm sure you could go through the history of other NHL teams and find poor streaks of high end 1st round picks. I've never understand why fans what to associate us as being the ONLY team who has periods of drafting poorly. That's clearly not going to be the case and you would have seen that had you actually done some homework on it. Picard 8th overall 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 minute ago, Ballisticsports said: Picard 8th overall You actually made me to relook it up to make sure I had the spelling right (I did). lol Although I also noticed he was on the Lewiston MAINEiacs.... I get wanting to be punny but what a dumb name for a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted August 21 Popular Post Share Posted August 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Lock said: A lot more than you think. Even if you look at someone like Edmonton: Yakupov (1st overall), Puljujarvi (3rd overall), Paajarvi (10th overall) Or look at Columbus in the 2000's: Leclaire (8th overall), Picard (8th overall), Brule (6th overall), Filatov (8th overall)... that's 4 in 8 years And these are the 1st 2 teams I looked at. I'm sure you could go through the history of other NHL teams and find poor streaks of high end 1st round picks. I've never understand why fans what to associate us as being the ONLY team who has periods of drafting poorly. That's clearly not going to be the case and you would have seen that had you actually done some homework on it. I'll give you a recent dynasty. Hawks picked Barker at 3, Skille at 7, and Beach at 11 in a 5 year period. Edited August 21 by King Heffy 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Value wise I'm fine with the trade. I just hate that this organization is hell bent on never letting young kids gain enough experience to see where it takes them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: I'll give you a recent dynasty. Hawks picked Barker at 3, Skille at 7, and Beach at 11 in a 5 year period. Exactly. There's quite a few. I literally stopped after the 2nd one I looked at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOCKEYGOD77 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, MikeyD said: Value wise I'm fine with the trade. I just hate that this organization is hell bent on never letting young kids gain enough experience to see where it takes them. THATS TOO BAD SO SAD ..THEY CAN NOT WAIT LONG..YOU NEED TO BE GOOD AT PROJECTING INTO FUTURE..HE JUST DID NOT HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH TO PROGRESS...AS A FAN I CAN TELL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_Nuck Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 38 minutes ago, HOCKEYGOD77 said: THATS TOO BAD SO SAD ..THEY CAN NOT WAIT LONG..YOU NEED TO BE GOOD AT PROJECTING INTO FUTURE..HE JUST DID NOT HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH TO PROGRESS...AS A FAN I CAN TELL.. Why are we screaming?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 39 minutes ago, HOCKEYGOD77 said: THATS TOO BAD SO SAD ..THEY CAN NOT WAIT LONG..YOU NEED TO BE GOOD AT PROJECTING INTO FUTURE..HE JUST DID NOT HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH TO PROGRESS...AS A FAN I CAN TELL.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 minute ago, Northern_Nuck said: Why are we screaming?? it’s just the echo from the heavens above reverberating like a thunderstorm. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sophomore Jinx Posted August 22 Popular Post Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, HOCKEYGOD77 said: THATS TOO BAD SO SAD ..THEY CAN NOT WAIT LONG..YOU NEED TO BE GOOD AT PROJECTING INTO FUTURE..HE JUST DID NOT HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH TO PROGRESS...AS A FAN I CAN TELL.. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOCKEYGOD77 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 hours ago, Sophomore Jinx said: THATS ABOUT WHAT PODZKIN DID TOO..ROLLED HIS EYE AND THATS ALL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 maybe this is Alvin giving Podz a fresh start at the request of Mil$$tein, with the whole Zadorov and Milky fiascos maybe they felt they owed him a solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 amazing now that Podz is fighting for a middle 6 spot at best when he was going to fight to make our team at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) Will Podz thrive and possibly score 30+ with CMD and LD. That will be to be seen. Edited August 22 by Ronaldoescobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 hours ago, Ronaldoescobar said: Will Podz thrive and possibly score 30+ with CMD and LD. That will be to be seen. Podz will be on waivers. He’s KHL material. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 3 hours ago, Alflives said: Podz will be on waivers. He’s KHL material. Am I out to lunch saying that Russian players find transitioning to the NHL the hardest? Podz played 2 seasons in the KHL before his move to the NHL. Typical Canuck development was to put him into the NHL immediately and brand him as the 2nd coming of JT Miller. After 3 coaches and a struggle to adapt he is moved out. One of my questions would be comparing Podz to Raty. Both struggled but Atu seems to be adjusting and will likely play for the Canucks. I would also say Raty is a C and not a winger which IMHO is tougher in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 17 hours ago, Rekker said: Listening to NHL Network just now. Pods is the Oilers youngest forward making McD the next oldest. Crazy. those 2 and draisaitl are their only forwards under 30. hell, they're all 31 or over if you also subtract connor brown who turns 31 in january. Edited August 22 by tas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 19 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Am I out to lunch saying that Russian players find transitioning to the NHL the hardest? Podz played 2 seasons in the KHL before his move to the NHL. Typical Canuck development was to put him into the NHL immediately and brand him as the 2nd coming of JT Miller. After 3 coaches and a struggle to adapt he is moved out. One of my questions would be comparing Podz to Raty. Both struggled but Atu seems to be adjusting and will likely play for the Canucks. I would also say Raty is a C and not a winger which IMHO is tougher in the NHL. My understanding was that Raty moved to the wing and it was part of him finding success. Am I wrong? I didn’t see that many Abbotsford games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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