Devron Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, qwijjibo said: So trade him for another disappointing player that likely wouldn't make a top tier club but would probably be claimed on waivers anyway? Absolutely. At least it’s something. Or give him another chance in training camp. I would have preferred waivers to this 1000% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, Devron said: I would not be doing Edmonton any fkin favours and that is exactly what this is. A deal with the devil Is it though? Do you really see Podkolzin as an impact player worthy of all this angst? I'm not even convinced he's an NHL player at this point 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Making room for Soderstrom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, qwijjibo said: Is it though? Do you really see Podkolzin as an impact player worthy of all this angst? I'm not even convinced he's an NHL player at this point Middle six forward absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 It's dumb. If he succeeds in Edm, which is unlikely the way he is trending, then he will be in our division on our biggest rival. Last thing I want to see is him bloom in Edm and spend seasons blowing up Canucks with decent hits. Not worth the risk for a 4th. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rmok Posted August 18 Popular Post Share Posted August 18 Regardless of return. I would have rather lost him on waivers for nothing to Washington or Tampa or something or trade him for future considerations to anyone outside the division than give him to the division rivals. Podkolzin is going to torch the Canucks in a pivotal playoff game.. guarantee it. Podkolzin has always been at his best in the biggest games. Playoffs and tournaments. I just see no benefit to the canucks here at all that couldn't have been gotten some other way. Bad.. unnecessary.. rather head scratchy move by management. .. like why help out the oilers? Losing him for nothing would be more valuable than helping edmonton, even if only potentially. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 We've bled alot of picks the last couple years. Adds a little something to mix for future pick or trade chip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Devron said: Then he should have been traded for another player in a similar situation. Instead they traded him to our biggest rival and a team we have to pass to win the cup. This is a failed move. I don’t care what anyone says That is why I said poison pill, he is a good player with slow feet and no real defence, so maybe he is intended to take a roster spot on Edmonton seemingly Holloways, making Edmonton easier to pass in the playoffs? I am just speculating, but it wouldn't be a big stretch to see we have a book on Podz now that we can 3xploit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophomore Jinx Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) Not surprised at this at all, as I've said very recently, he wasn't bringing very much (zero offense) other than skating around trying not to fuck up, and trying to please the coach, instead of just going for it and showcasing himself...he doesn't seem to have the mental toughness nor the hockey IQ to figure things out...and whether he is a "bust" or not, only time will tell, but he is certainly trending that way, and was never going to be a regular here And with this bold move things didn't get easier now for the likes of Hogz, if anything IMO, his leash is even tighter now, and he might be the next domino to fall... Edited August 18 by Sophomore Jinx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, qwijjibo said: So trade him for another disappointing player that likely wouldn't make a top tier club but would probably be claimed on waivers anyway? And we’ve actually had some success with these mid-round picks. Not bonafide HOF’ers mind you, but good, serviceable players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 4th rounder? Did we at least get a bag of pucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Provost said: There almost has to be another move coming at some point. We just get farther from the cap so if we put Poolman on LTIR we won't get his full cap hit as overage relief. They had it worked to within $15k of the ceiling so would have been able to put Poolman on LTIR and gotten to exceed the cap by almost his entire salary whenever they wanted to replace him in season. We are at 191k below the cap, so it's still pretty good Edited August 18 by Bob Long 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, bishopshodan said: It's dumb. If he succeeds in Edm, which is unlikely the way he is trending, then he will be in our division on our biggest rival. Last thing I want to see is him bloom in Edm and spend seasons blowing up Canucks with decent hits. Not worth the risk for a 4th. Exactly. Obviously there’s a chance we got a 4th round pick for nothing. But why even risk that to a division rival. Dumb 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe King Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 17 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: ok fine still.. why are we trading to edmonton? there's 0 interest in the league for a young power forward with upside? Maybe it was Ottawa's 4th they were really after, and Edmonton had it. Maybe they feel it will end up in the range where there is some one they are hoping to draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Provost said: There almost has to be another move coming at some point. We just get farther from the cap so if we put Poolman on LTIR we won't get his full cap hit as overage relief. They had it worked to within $15k of the ceiling so would have been able to put Poolman on LTIR and gotten to exceed the cap by almost his entire salary whenever they wanted to replace him in season. May not this week, but Alvin will no doubt address it as pre-season get's going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post qwijjibo Posted August 18 Popular Post Share Posted August 18 Just now, Devron said: Absolutely. At least it’s something. Or give him another chance in training camp. I would have preferred waivers to this 1000% And the management team who sees him day in and dsy out, who has a very good idea of what he is as a player, would rather take the 4th round pick. An asset to be used rather than a player who doesn't fit into the plans and could be lost for nothing 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 He has also had some concussion trouble? Maybe there is some concern he can't play the style he'll need to to have success at nhl level? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Dave Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 A 4th round pick is better than nothing which is what we would get if we lost him on waivers after training camp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB43 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I’ve been saying for years, he clearly doesn’t have what it takes, but still that’s a low return.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Snoop Hogg said: And we’ve actually had some success with these mid-round picks. Not bonafide HOF’ers mind you, but good, serviceable players. Yup. Or that pick could be used as part of a package. It's a tangible asset in return for a player they didn't see making the club 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, qwijjibo said: And the management team who sees him day in and dsy out, who has a very good idea of what he is as a player, would rather take the 4th round pick. An asset to be used rather than a player who doesn't fit into the plans and could be lost for nothing Why do we even bother discussing things then? Edm must think somehing of him though, so theres that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I remember that 2019 draft like yesterday. Fans were shocked that we took a Russian but also very excited. Sucks that this is ultimately what it led to. Add another poor pick to Benning’s tenure. As for the trade I don’t wanna overreact cause I know we tend to hype our players too much. I just don’t understand trading in the division for a mid round pick. No one else was willing to offer a 4th? The odds of Podz becoming a serviceable middle 6 winger are much higher than hitting on a 4th round pick. So why help Edmonton, and more specific ally Bowman out? If Podz figures his game out there it’s gonna come back to bite us. If this is a precursor to another trade it makes sense. In a vacuum this looks like PA and Rutherford were just too eager to make a trade. I get you don’t wanna lose him to waivers but I don’t see how you couldn’t move him for someone like Soderstrom. At least you get another project player of similar draft position in a position of need. Just a strange move to me. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme17 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 To everyone saying that Podkolzin being traded to Edmonton is going to torch us someday . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Another example of how bad a GM Benning was... Whiffed on yet another top ten pick. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Allvin obviously doesn't like Russians. They are all gone now. He likes the Swedish players. Hoglander is staying. Maybe we are in on Philip Broberg? Edmonton matches and trades him to Vancouver? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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