Provost Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 14 minutes ago, Satchmo said: No team gets very far without a stellar third line. All of your other points seem to begin with IF. We also added a bunch of 3rd and 4th liners for reasonable cap hits this offseason. All of Heinen, Sherwood, and Sprong are all added to the existing group of Suter, Blueger, Joshua, Hoglander, and PDG. That is 8 guys NOT including Garland for 6-7 spots. Two of them are likely going to have to play in the top six as we don't have enough legit top six guys. If we needed a goalie and added Eller as part of the return... Eller is an EXCELLENT 3rd line centre who would be likely make a great PK duo with Heinen, so you aren't losing a lot there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastExpress Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 2 hours ago, QuinnNorris said: Garland=play driver I bet Alf started this. I bet Alf meant "Hobbit beast" when he was writing garden gnome 3 hours ago, Canuck You said: I'd be sooo pissed, Garland was a hobbit beast in the playoffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 19 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: No team gets very far without a 2nd line either, or a 1st line, or a top pairing D, or a top goalie. At the end of the day, you only have so much cap to go around. Paying a 3rd line winger $5 million is not using cap space very efficiently. Especially if that 3rd liner doesn't even play special teams. Garland is a luxury for this team, he is not a necessity. We can move Sprong to the 3rd line, he's a better goal scorer than Garland, and Lekkerimaki is Petey's new winger. I think that is the plan... They don’t go through keeping that third line all together just to trade Garland. Joshua would not have had the season he did without him. Good way to make him an overpaid fourth liner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastExpress Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, Provost said: We also added a bunch of 3rd and 4th liners for reasonable cap hits this offseason. All of Heinen, Sherwood, and Sprong are all added to the existing group of Suter, Blueger, Joshua, Hoglander, and PDG. That is 8 guys NOT including Garland for 6-7 spots. Two of them are likely going to have to play in the top six as we don't have enough legit top six guys. If we needed a goalie and added Eller as part of the return... Eller is an EXCELLENT 3rd line centre who would be likely make a great PK duo with Heinen, so you aren't losing a lot there. I think the Canucks are good at scouting guys who are playing well above their weight with very limited time or space in the top 6 on their old teams. All three new guys deserve to show what they can do with the JT/Brock line or the Petey/Debrusk line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, Provost said: We also added a bunch of 3rd and 4th liners for reasonable cap hits this offseason. All of Heinen, Sherwood, and Sprong are all added to the existing group of Suter, Blueger, Joshua, Hoglander, and PDG. That is 8 guys NOT including Garland for 6-7 spots. Two of them are likely going to have to play in the top six as we don't have enough legit top six guys. If we needed a goalie and added Eller as part of the return... Eller is an EXCELLENT 3rd line centre who would be likely make a great PK duo with Heinen, so you aren't losing a lot there. I see your point but... - I am not taking the trade proposed in this thread very seriously - I think PDG is likely the odd man out in your list - We need two guys to sit every game while awaiting the injuries that will surely come - I have to confess I really like Garland (so maybe I have a bias against him going (in a trade I don't even really believe in)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 If Garland goes, I'd rather we use that cap space and value to really shore up our defence core. A very strong defence group could make an average goaltender look like a star. Garland for Marcus Pettersson -- 1 for 1 deal. Savings in cap: $900k+ Accrue cap until TDL and trade for another top 4D like Connor Murphy from CHI. Hughes-Hronek Pettersson-Murphy Soucy-Myers Forbort-Desharnais 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 10 minutes ago, HKSR said: If Garland goes, I'd rather we use that cap space and value to really shore up our defence core. A very strong defence group could make an average goaltender look like a star. Garland for Marcus Pettersson -- 1 for 1 deal. Savings in cap: $900k+ Accrue cap until TDL and trade for another top 4D like Connor Murphy from CHI. Hughes-Hronek Pettersson-Murphy Soucy-Myers Forbort-Desharnais I could see a bigger deal with Pittsburgh to get M Petey as well. Remember, we have Poolman's contract on the books, so if we can trade his cap, then that frees up $2.5 million. So we could swing a trade for M Petey as well and ship Suter the other way along with a 1st round pick... To Vancouver: Marcus Pettersson Lars Eller Alex Nedeljkovic To Pittsburgh: Conor Garland Pius Suter Tucker Poolman 2025 1st round pick Cap works. We fix our D and we get a backup goalie and we get a bigger 3C and move Blueger to 4C... Hoglander Miller Boeser DeBrusk Pettersson Lekkerimaki Joshua Eller Sprong Heinen Blueger Sherwood PDG Aman Hughes Hronek Pettersson Myers Soucy Desharnais Forbort Juulsen Demko Nedeljkovic Silovs I think we've fixed all our problems with one trade really... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Why in holy hell would we want Suter in the top 6? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 17 minutes ago, HKSR said: If Garland goes, I'd rather we use that cap space and value to really shore up our defence core. A very strong defence group could make an average goaltender look like a star. Garland for Marcus Pettersson -- 1 for 1 deal. Savings in cap: $900k+ Accrue cap until TDL and trade for another top 4D like Connor Murphy from CHI. Hughes-Hronek Pettersson-Murphy Soucy-Myers Forbort-Desharnais I agree. Garland is a solid player, but having a 3rd liner making 5 mill is a luxury we cant really afford with a pretty big gap in our D core. Pettersson adds more size to out D, but not sure how it would work adding another LD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 45 minutes ago, Sell.the.team said: please tell me this is a joke It most likely is, as the article clearly states this is "entirely speculative". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 7 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Why in holy hell would we want Suter in the top 6? Or PDG for that matter. Some people have deluded themselves into believing they’re top 6 forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomorick Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 How about just NO! Garland was great last year and in the playoffs too. He and Joshua giive us the makings of the best third line in the league! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: Or PDG for that matter. Some people have deluded themselves into believing they’re top 6 forwards. I like PDG in the top 6 in Abbotsford. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, pomorick said: How about just NO! Garland was great last year and in the playoffs too. He and Joshua giive us the makings of the best third line in the league! I could see it if they wanted cap space to bring in another D man. Using that space for Eller and an average backup though? Makes zero sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastExpress Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 32 minutes ago, HKSR said: If Garland goes, I'd rather we use that cap space and value to really shore up our defence core. A very strong defence group could make an average goaltender look like a star. Garland for Marcus Pettersson -- 1 for 1 deal. Savings in cap: $900k+ Accrue cap until TDL and trade for another top 4D like Connor Murphy from CHI. Hughes-Hronek Pettersson-Murphy Soucy-Myers Forbort-Desharnais I would rather keep Garlund then mess around with the chemistry built between Joshua/Garly. Also, I dont think the Dfense is in that bad of shape, and would like to see how much improvement there is for Forbort-Desharnais with our style of game and Foote, Tocc, Ganchar doing their thing. Let the team GEL. I didnt do the math but it seems like Canucks were more successful without Zadorov and Lindholm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Goose Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 my profile pic disagrees w any crappy Garland trade 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 49 minutes ago, BCNate said: I agree. Garland is a solid player, but having a 3rd liner making 5 mill is a luxury we cant really afford with a pretty big gap in our D core. Pettersson adds more size to out D, but not sure how it would work adding another LD. If Tocc decides to split up Garland/Joshua I could see Him w Petey/Debrusk or Miller/Boeser. He is a dog in the puck and helps extend play w his tenacity/puck skills. But having a momentum changing third line is also a huge asset. If the 4th line can get going I think Tocc will be a very happy coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pears Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Snoop Hogg said: Or PDG for that matter. Some people have deluded themselves into believing they’re top 6 forwards. "Suter can play with any top six player" ok cool but if you're trying to win a cup he should be your 3C at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Provost said: We also added a bunch of 3rd and 4th liners for reasonable cap hits this offseason. All of Heinen, Sherwood, and Sprong are all added to the existing group of Suter, Blueger, Joshua, Hoglander, and PDG. That is 8 guys NOT including Garland for 6-7 spots. Two of them are likely going to have to play in the top six as we don't have enough legit top six guys. If we needed a goalie and added Eller as part of the return... Eller is an EXCELLENT 3rd line centre who would be likely make a great PK duo with Heinen, so you aren't losing a lot there. I think Sprong is going to get some rope in camp to be on the debrusk-petey line. We know that his offence is there, if his poor defence was a lack of committment and he cleans that up, that's a big win. Puts more guys in roles in the bottom 6 they should be in. I like the idea of hogs with Miller and Boeser too. Edited September 12 by Bob Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien-Punch Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Debrusk Miller Boeser Suter Pettersson Sprong Joshua Eller Hoglander Heinen Blueger Sherwood Hughes Desjarnais Soucy Hronek Forbort Myers Silovs Nedeljevic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: I think Sprong is going to get some rope in camp to be on the debrusk-petey line. We know that his offence is there, if his poor defence was a lack of committment and he cleans that up, that's a big win. Puts more guys in roles in the bottom 6 they should be in. I like the idea of hogs with Miller and Boeser too. I think a few guys get auditions in the top six. None of them have been able to be in those roles consistently. I would put Sprong with Miller, hard to not play the right way with your line mate pushing you all the time. Debrusk on a Petey line means Boeser could be a great fit. Heinen-Miller-Sprong Debrusk-Petterson-Boeser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, Provost said: I think a few guys get auditions in the top six. None of them have been able to be in those roles consistently. I would put Sprong with Miller, hard to not play the right way with your line mate pushing you all the time. Debrusk on a Petey line means Boeser could be a great fit. Heinen-Miller-Sprong Debrusk-Petterson-Boeser I'm most interested in Sprong this camp. If he's found religion under Tocc he could be what we all hoped Kuzy would be. I like the chemistry Miller and Boeser have developed, which is why I figured it would be Petey-Sprong but I like this look as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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