Alflives Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 17 minutes ago, HOCKEYGOD77 said: THAT WOULD BE BONEHEAD MOVE BY BRASS...GARLAND HAS SKILL AND BIT OF EDGE ON HIM AND HAS SMART HOCKEY IQ..WHAT DO YOU BOTHER LOOKING FOR PLAYERS WHEN YOU GOT IT...IF ANYTHING YOU NEED TO GET MENTALLY TOUGHER THIS SEASON AND ADJUST TO THE GAME EACH DAY.. Garden Gnome is a third line winger who doesn't pk or pp on our club. His 5 on the cap would be better allocated to a right shot, defensively sound 3C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Gator said: The contract was a tough 1 to keep for sure, but man, I loved Garland. I'm kinda worried Joshua wont be as impactful without him. He (imo) was the driving force of that dominant 3rd line, which imo was a major reason for our success. If we trade him I think it could really come back to bite us Joshua is due for a huge regression this season either way. He had the 3rd best shooting percentage in the league last season at 23.7% on 84 shots on goal. There is no way that continues. For the record Hoglander and Boeser also had unsustainable shooting percentages. Expect to see thier goal totals come down as well. Now that's not to say any of those guys aren't good players. But anyone counting on them to repeat what they did last season is most likely going to be disappointed. The season before it was Kuzmenko who had an unrepeatable shooting percentage, and we all know how that turned out 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Joshua is due for a huge regression this season either way. He had the 3rd best shooting percentage in the league last season at 23.7% on 84 shots on goal. There is no way that continues. For the record Hoglander and Boeser also had unsustainable shooting percentages. Expect to see thier goal totals come down as well. Now that's not to say any of those guys aren't good players. But anyone counting on them to repeat what they did last season is most likely going to be disappointed. The season before it was Kuzmenko who had an unrepeatable shooting percentage, and we all know how that turned out Wrong on all accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 28 minutes ago, HOCKEYGOD77 said: THAT WOULD BE BONEHEAD MOVE BY BRASS...GARLAND HAS SKILL AND BIT OF EDGE ON HIM AND HAS SMART HOCKEY IQ..WHAT DO YOU BOTHER LOOKING FOR PLAYERS WHEN YOU GOT IT...IF ANYTHING YOU NEED TO GET MENTALLY TOUGHER THIS SEASON AND ADJUST TO THE GAME EACH DAY.. IF ANYTHING YOU NEED A NEW KEYBOARD BECAUSE YOUR CAPSLOCK KEY SEEMS PERMANENTLY STUCK. OR ADJUST YOUR FINGER OFF THE SHIFT KEY! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 11 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Joshua is due for a huge regression this season either way. He had the 3rd best shooting percentage in the league last season at 23.7% on 84 shots on goal. There is no way that continues. For the record Hoglander and Boeser also had unsustainable shooting percentages. Expect to see thier goal totals come down as well. Now that's not to say any of those guys aren't good players. But anyone counting on them to repeat what they did last season is most likely going to be disappointed. The season before it was Kuzmenko who had an unrepeatable shooting percentage, and we all know how that turned out Do you think Petey will improve?... You may be right, but then again you may be wrong... If management believed you were right, I doubt they would have handed him a new improved contract. Hogs and Boeser again had above predicted shooting %, but Boeser is lethal when n fire... we seen it before in his first season. We shall see, I'm sure, but I think Joshua will be having a great season, and I actually think the whole team is gonna go on a roll.....if the D can do their end of the deal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, spook007 said: Do you think Petey will improve?... You may be right, but then again you may be wrong... If management believed you were right, I doubt they would have handed him a new improved contract. Hogs and Boeser again had above predicted shooting %, but Boeser is lethal when n fire... we seen it before in his first season. We shall see, I'm sure, but I think Joshua will be having a great season, and I actually think the whole team is gonna go on a roll.....if the D can do their end of the deal... If Petey gets more ice time, he will most definitely put up more points. He averages 2minutes less than Matthews, Crosby, Mackinnon, Draisaitl and several others, but produces at the same rate. Petey is averaging just over 13mins TOI 5v5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 58 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Joshua is due for a huge regression this season either way. He had the 3rd best shooting percentage in the league last season at 23.7% on 84 shots on goal. There is no way that continues. For the record Hoglander and Boeser also had unsustainable shooting percentages. Expect to see thier goal totals come down as well. Now that's not to say any of those guys aren't good players. But anyone counting on them to repeat what they did last season is most likely going to be disappointed. The season before it was Kuzmenko who had an unrepeatable shooting percentage, and we all know how that turned out To be fair Kuzmenko did get back to his .5 goals per game pace after move to Calgary But agree they're unsustainable #s for sure Edited 7 hours ago by Gator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, qwijjibo said: Joshua is due for a huge regression this season either way. He had the 3rd best shooting percentage in the league last season at 23.7% on 84 shots on goal. There is no way that continues. For the record Hoglander and Boeser also had unsustainable shooting percentages. Expect to see thier goal totals come down as well. Now that's not to say any of those guys aren't good players. But anyone counting on them to repeat what they did last season is most likely going to be disappointed. The season before it was Kuzmenko who had an unrepeatable shooting percentage, and we all know how that turned out When you’re getting back door tap in’s 90% of the time, it’s entirely sustainable. Kuzmenko on the other hand was further out for a lot of his goals, so a regression is to be expected. Although he does have a disgustingly heavy and fast wrister, so don’t be surprised if he’s back up to 20-23% 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 38 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: When you’re getting back door tap in’s 90% of the time, it’s entirely sustainable. Kuzmenko on the other hand was further out for a lot of his goals, so a regression is to be expected. Although he does have a disgustingly heavy and fast wrister, so don’t be surprised if he’s back up to 20-23% I WILL be surprised if he's anywhere near 20% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 28 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: I WILL be surprised if he's anywhere near 20% Well I don’t exactly disagree either. But…. The good thing is, Joshua scores the LARGE majority of his goals within 3-5 ft of the goalie. So he is consistent at getting to those in tight areas, which gives him a much better chance at converting on his opportunities. Kuzmenko on the other hand scores his goals within the confines of the home plate, more so from mid-high home plate. So he is more likely to see a heavier regression due to goalies having more time to get set, tips/blocks that hit the goalie etc. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 29 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: Well I don’t exactly disagree either. But…. The good thing is, Joshua scores the LARGE majority of his goals within 3-5 ft of the goalie. So he is consistent at getting to those in tight areas, which gives him a much better chance at converting on his opportunities. Kuzmenko on the other hand scores his goals within the confines of the home plate, more so from mid-high home plate. So he is more likely to see a heavier regression due to goalies having more time to get set, tips/blocks that hit the goalie etc. Great point. Fully agree Net front presence players should have a higher shooting % - in theory Great thing is that Joshua's is getting paid for what he brings, which is net front presence, 2 way game, fore checking, PK etc. He's not getting paid to be a 20-30 goal scorer 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, qwijjibo said: I WILL be surprised if he's anywhere near 20% Of course you do. You’re not a Canuck’s fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, AnthonyG said: If Petey gets more ice time, he will most definitely put up more points. He averages 2minutes less than Matthews, Crosby, Mackinnon, Draisaitl and several others, but produces at the same rate. Petey is averaging just over 13mins TOI 5v5 Cheers G. My point was more towards it being rather negative to suggest Joshua, Brock and Hogs productions are guarenteed to get worse next season... We don't know that although it may be the case... I think Petey will even improve if he stays at the same ice time, but yes good call about getting 2min less even strength compared to the players you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, AnthonyG said: Well I don’t exactly disagree either. But…. The good thing is, Joshua scores the LARGE majority of his goals within 3-5 ft of the goalie. So he is consistent at getting to those in tight areas, which gives him a much better chance at converting on his opportunities. Kuzmenko on the other hand scores his goals within the confines of the home plate, more so from mid-high home plate. So he is more likely to see a heavier regression due to goalies having more time to get set, tips/blocks that hit the goalie etc. My point is Joshua had tge 3rd highest shooting percentage in the league. Yes, the kind of goals he scored will skew the number to a certain degree. But you can't honestly tell me you think he's going to replicate a sesdin where he's the 3rd most accurate shooter in the entire league? He's a valuable player, and will continue to be so, but puck luck is a thing and the hockey gods were kind to him last season. I think we'll see him regress to a very respectable 13% (which would translate to 11-12 goals on the same number of shots. Perhaps he sees more ice time and gets more shots (and by extension more goals). But to think he's going to continue to score on 20+% on his shots is naive. For comparison sakes, Gretzky had about a 17% shooting percentage on his career and Ovechkin is around 13%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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