Canucks Preseason Camp: 15F 9D 3G remain in camp

[Pure961089]

35 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

 

 

There is always an adjustment period when newly traded player join a team; both by the new

player, as well as their linemates.  Still, the Canucks made a remarkable run in the playoffs and

part of it was because of the newly added players.  Imo, Lindstom's game helped our team to

get as far as they did and I'm not certain that the team would have been better without him.

 

They only got Lindholm for insurance incase Petey didn't sign, it was never Plan A. Petey shot Plan A into orbit.  3 top 2 centres didn't work with Horvat and it didn't work in the playoffs. We didn't have enough quality depth on the wing to roll 3 lines nevermind 4.  I look at the New York Rangers game and the home game vs the Leafs. Our 3rd and 4th lines ate teams alive. Recency playoff bias makes people forget we were the number #1 team in the league for most of the season.  We were a shadow of that dominant team in the playoffs.  

[higgyfan]

14 minutes ago, Pure961089 said:

They only got Lindholm for insurance incase Petey didn't sign, it was never Plan A. Petey shot Plan A into orbit.  3 top 2 centres didn't work with Horvat and it didn't work in the playoffs. We didn't have enough quality depth on the wing to roll 3 lines nevermind 4.  I look at the New York Rangers game and the home game vs the Leafs. Our 3rd and 4th lines ate teams alive. Recency playoff bias makes people forget we were the number #1 team in the league for most of the season.  We were a shadow of that dominant team in the playoffs.  

The Canucks were great in the playoffs; especially considering their #1 goalie went down after the 1st

game.  I think you are making an assumption about the Petey situation.  I don't think that Petey ever

wanted to sign elsewhere.  Imo the management simply wanted a right shot C for the playoffs.

I think I will just agree to disagree with your point of view. 

[JeremyCuddles]

I am beyond ready for hockey. So much so my anxiousness actually has me considering buying NHL 25 at launch. I NEED HOCKEY.

[Pure961089]

15 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

The Canucks were great in the playoffs; especially considering their #1 goalie went down after the 1st

game.  I think you are making an assumption about the Petey situation.  I don't think that Petey ever

wanted to sign elsewhere.  Imo the management simply wanted a right shot C for the playoffs.

I think I will just agree to disagree with your point of view. 

they had 2 good lines and a great defensive structured system that helped out Silovs, but he played great considering the circumstances.  Our big Defence Zadorov, Soucy and Myers in particular were the unsung heroes in the playoffs, they were the wall in front of Silovs.  And signing Petey was always Plan A for management, nobody wanted him gone and I'm not assuming he wanted out. But in his own admissions Petey didn't want to "show all his cards" which is fine but it put Allvin in a tough spot. I wonder if Allvin could have traded for a guy like Guentzel we could have kept the 3rd line together and had a strong winger for Petey.

[Pure961089]

2 hours ago, higgyfan said:

 

Lindholm was great in the playoffs; both offensively and defensively.  Both Lindholm and

Zadorov were brought in to make a splash in the playoffs and that's exactly what they did.

Meanwhile, your 24 goal 'star winger' only managed 2 points in the playoffs.

 

 

Your 'star winger' managed to

put up 2 points in 11 games.

Let me unpack this if I can.  You're right about Lindholm, I've never said he was a bad player he played great in the playoffs at both ends.  It did come at a cost though, we lost the 3rd line.  I never complained about signing Zadorov but he was a depth defenceman before we got him and in 5 months Legends Foote and Gonchar molded and shaped Zadorov into a top 4 defenceman.  You heard me right. The Canucks think that too and were willing to go as far as $5 mill as well,  they just couldn't commit to a 6th year and he got that in Boston. Zadorov was a force in the playoffs, great development.    Mikheyev and Kuzy were such disappointments. Pete's revolving wingers all took a turn Lafferty, Hoglander, Karlsson even Beauvilier before the Zadorov trade, but they couldn't score consistently because they're just not top 6 wingers. not on a good team not on this team.  And yes my star winger isn't a top 6 winger but hes one of the best 4th line wingers in the league and it's players like him that are the difference between good teams and great teams.  My 24 goal scorer should never have been moved off the 4th line.  A perfect spot for him, him on the 4th line made this team special. 

 

How can you watch this an not love the guy?

 

Edited September 21 by Pure961089

[bh90]

3 hours ago, Jim Tim said:

Sherwood looks awesome, man, he was very noticeable in the playoffs last year. He has some offensive flair for sure, 75pts in in 57 games in the AHL (2021-22), could be a late bloomer?

 

Absoloutely the Kiefer signing is my favorite one.

 

He'll be a solid bottom 6 for us but has that sneaky potential to turn into a solid mid-6 and/or complimentary top 6 winger. He has quite a bit of skill.

 

Maybe he'll be our Carter Verheaghe 

 

 

[Lewlowned]

Saturdays Groups:

The only change is goalies Ferguson to group C and Young to group B

 

Myers interview from yesterday:

 

Some highlights from yesterday:

 

 

Interview with Garland:

 

Hughes on Canucks Central talking about how much he enjoyed playing with Hronek:

 

 

 

 

Edited September 21 by Lewlowned

[The Duke]

12 hours ago, Pure961089 said:

Let me unpack this if I can.  You're right about Lindholm, I've never said he was a bad player he played great in the playoffs at both ends.  It did come at a cost though, we lost the 3rd line.  I never complained about signing Zadorov but he was a depth defenceman before we got him and in 5 months Legends Foote and Gonchar molded and shaped Zadorov into a top 4 defenceman.  You heard me right. The Canucks think that too and were willing to go as far as $5 mill as well,  they just couldn't commit to a 6th year and he got that in Boston. Zadorov was a force in the playoffs, great development.    Mikheyev and Kuzy were such disappointments. Pete's revolving wingers all took a turn Lafferty, Hoglander, Karlsson even Beauvilier before the Zadorov trade, but they couldn't score consistently because they're just not top 6 wingers. not on a good team not on this team.  And yes my star winger isn't a top 6 winger but hes one of the best 4th line wingers in the league and it's players like him that are the difference between good teams and great teams.  My 24 goal scorer should never have been moved off the 4th line.  A perfect spot for him, him on the 4th line made this team special. 

 

How can you watch this an not love the guy?

 

Lindholm played great in the playoffs and we’ll miss having a high level RHC.  On the other hand, I think you’re right about losing out on the wings if we re-sign him.  
 

Instead of Lindy and Zad, we keep our elite Miller-Boeser line, the Garland-Joshua 3rd line,  and add a guy like DeBrusk to play with Petey.  That was our biggest problem - we didn’t have a second line that was producing.
 

The team certainly looks a lot deeper, on paper at least.  If we make a move for a strong 2nd pair D man at the deadline we could be contenders IMO.

Edited September 21 by The Duke

[Bretzky]

Wouldn’t it be something if it stays D Petey with Hronek as a pair and Juulsen and Hughes as another, then Soucy and Myers 5th/6th and Desharnais as the 7th defenceman.

Edited September 21 by Bretzky

[Nucker67]

How has Sammy Blais been? Any chance he makes the team?

 

 

[Dr.BRR]

Is the scrimmage live streamed for today??

[Alflives]

6 minutes ago, Bretzky said:

Wouldn’t it be something if it stays D Petey with Hronek as a pair and Juulsen and Hughes as another, then Soucy and Myers 5th/6th and Desharnais as the 7th defenceman.

That could happen in some in game situations, but it wouldn’t be a regular thing. Hughes and Hronek proved to be the best D pairing in the league. (Thanks Yzerboy) They will play the vast majority of their minutes together. 

[Lewlowned]

5 minutes ago, Dr.BRR said:

Is the scrimmage live streamed for today??

 

The scrimmage is tomorrow!

[Lewlowned]

10 minutes ago, Nucker67 said:

How has Sammy Blais been? Any chance he makes the team?

 

 

 

I haven't seen anyone talk about him one way or the other.

 

He's been skating with Aman and Karlsson in group A.

 

Depending on how long Joshua is out recovering, I think he could get a shot.

 

He struggled last year to do much of anything other than hit. And we have a lot of competition for this roster. 

 

We'll get a better idea during the preseason games, but I think he'll have to show some improvements if he wants a serious look.

[Alflives]

4 minutes ago, Lewlowned said:

 

I haven't seen anyone talk about him one way or the other.

 

He's been skating with Aman and Karlsson in group A.

 

Depending on how long Joshua is out recovering, I think he could get a shot.

 

He struggled last year to do much of anything other than hit. And we have a lot of competition for this roster. 

 

We'll get a better idea during the preseason games, but I think he'll have to show some improvements if he wants a serious look.

From Tocchet’s comments it seemed Joshua wasn’t going to be out too long. If that’s the case, it will be extremely difficult for Blais to earn a contract with us. But if he shows well enough then another club might like what they see and give him a contract. 

[MathIsFun]

16 hours ago, Crabcakes said:

Surely you mean the top 5th percentile (1 in 20)

The 95th percentile means that 95 of the scores are below you. The 5th percentile means that only 5% of the scores are below you. The "Top 95 percentile" is a phrase that is not needed or used.

Edited September 21 by MathIsFun

[Lewlowned]

Patera and Silovs getting work:

 

Raty with a nice move and Silovs with a good save:

 

Apparently a snipe by Debrusk, but I have no idea where the puck went:

 

Group A Lines (the only change from yesterday is that Kudryavtsev is playing with Myers and Wolanin with Felton. A nice little bump for the kid):

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 21 by Lewlowned

[Dr.BRR]

21 minutes ago, Lewlowned said:

Patera and Silovs getting work:

 

Raty with a nice move and Silovs with a good save:

 

Apparently a snipe by Debrusk, but I have no idea where the puck went:

 

Group A Lines (the only change from yesterday is that Kudryavtsev is playing with Myers and Wolanin with Felton. A nice little bump for the kid):

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lewloned taking over the updates and videos.

 

Thanks Pal, makes it easier for us to track and stay up to date!!

[Satchmo]

1 hour ago, Nucker67 said:

How has Sammy Blais been? Any chance he makes the team?

 

 

In today's The Athletic Dayal and Drance said:

 

Sammy Blais was perhaps the standout performer for Canucks Group A in the battle drills on Friday afternoon.

As we’ve already discussed, these battle drills are really a hidden bag skate. They’re a serious test of a player’s fitness level, skill level and pain tolerance.

Blais handled both the defensive side and the attacking side of the drills brilliantly. He combined with Felton for a lovely goal on Friday — it was a really nice pass from the first-year Canucks defender, and Blais did well to get to the puck — and then scored a second with an absolute laser beam finish top corner that beat Šilovs.

Tocchet called out Blais’ contributions as especially impressive following the session on Friday, and it’ll be interesting to track what opportunities that tryout player is given as the exhibition schedule starts next week. He’s certainly made a strong first impression.

Edited September 21 by Satchmo

[Pure961089]

Is Lekkkerimäki's nickname officially Mak?  I assume when he's playing really well it'll be Big Mak

[Stierlitz]

Kudryavtsev with Myers on 2nd D pair, sounds good 

[Stierlitz]

Yesterday Tocchet was asked "Which non-NHL players caught your eyes?" and he talked about Kudryavtsev and Mynio. 

[Alflives]

4 minutes ago, Stierlitz said:

Yesterday Tocchet was asked "Which non-NHL players caught your eyes?" and he talked about Kudryavtsev and Mynio. 

Not too sure these two will play for us, but they definitely will play in the National League. Having prospects that are this good makes them very valuable trade chips to acquire guys who are ready to contribute to us winning right now. Much like the Bustawitz trade last year. Imo one of these two is moved in a significant deal this year. 

[Lewlowned]

Tough to see because it's so far away, but some nice plays between Petey and Lekk:

 

Hogs Raty Garland looking good:

 

 

Workout Promo:

 

 

Layton Ahac was added as a 9th D for group B. Vegas drafted him in the third round, Canadian, 23yo, 6'2, 205, from North Van. Nice to see a local kid

 

 

Group B lines. The changes are Romani in for Nielsen on the fourth, and Ahac as mentioned above:

 

 

Garland and Joshua bromance continues:

 

Boeser finishes off the Miller pass:

 

 

 

 

Edited September 21 by Lewlowned

[Alflives]

Noticed in the prospects’ games that Raty was taking faceoffs (on his offside) right handed with his stick turned over. The Empties are thinking Canucks brass are expecting Raty to fill the 3C spot.