Hogs and Podz Posted Wednesday at 07:56 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:56 AM 1 hour ago, Wheres Wellwood said: I actually think Leki will make at least the opening day roster specifically due to the cap and how performance bonuses overage is calculated. Having him on the opening roster gives us overage cushion. can you elaborate more... interesting if actually true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted Wednesday at 08:04 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:04 AM I love Silovs style. Excited to see him get more opportunity this season, great kid, great goalie & hes fun to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOCKEYGOD77 Posted Wednesday at 08:39 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:39 AM REALLY LIKE MYERS GAME TONIGHT AND ARLIKSONS..TYLER CAN GO WITH ANY OF THE TOUGH GUYS IN THE NHL..I THINK KRAKEN LIKE TO PLAY TOUGHER BUT REALLY THEY DONT BACK IT UP...ID LIKE TO LETERMAKI ARLIKSON AND EVEN RATY MAKE THE TEAM AT SOME POINT.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_Nuck Posted Wednesday at 11:53 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:53 AM 3 hours ago, HOCKEYGOD77 said: REALLY LIKE MYERS GAME TONIGHT AND ARLIKSONS..TYLER CAN GO WITH ANY OF THE TOUGH GUYS IN THE NHL..I THINK KRAKEN LIKE TO PLAY TOUGHER BUT REALLY THEY DONT BACK IT UP...ID LIKE TO LETERMAKI ARLIKSON AND EVEN RATY MAKE THE TEAM AT SOME POINT.. Why are you so angry? lol they played a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted Wednesday at 12:17 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:17 PM 6 hours ago, DixonWard said: I keep hearing the media narrative that we don't have enough young guys pushing for spots. With Lekker, Raty, Karlsson, Silovs, DPetey, and Sasson in this game we have a bunch of guys pushing for spots. Throw in Willander, Woo, McWard, Hirose and Bains and we have maybe the most nhl-capable farm system I can remember. Agree 100%... Maybe not the most extravagant players, but there are loads of players, with futures as NHL'ers... Karlsson and Ratu could play from the start of the season and Silovs will... maybe even Lekkerimaki, although I think, he could be done with a bit of seasoning (thought so with EP40, so there goes how much I know ). I thought D-Petey looked engaged, but had a lot of give aways, thus could be done with some time in the AHL, but definitely has the strength to play in the NHL. On a side not, I thought the regular Canucks all looked ready, but think Heinen will need a bit of time to find his place... Love angry Myers... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted Wednesday at 12:26 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:26 PM 7 hours ago, -dlc- said: I'm cured 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted Wednesday at 12:27 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:27 PM 4 hours ago, Hogs and Podz said: can you elaborate more... interesting if actually true. There are a couple articles on Canucks Army explaining this in detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted Wednesday at 12:29 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:29 PM Hell of a game for pre-season: high pace and lots of emotion. Loved how dangerous we looked off the rush. We've got unreal depth and a great mentality on this team. Arty set the vibe in this game: really strong outing from him. Lek and Raty showing they belong no matter how the numbers game sorts out. Karlsson not far behind. Lots of other AHL guys looked solid too. The days of PDG and Aman on the big club may be over, not that I mind them for their roles. Brock and Lek looked like they've played together for a decade. It may not work so well with Miller in the mix and doing most of the puck distribution but we need to see it just the same. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted Wednesday at 12:39 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:39 PM (edited) 7 hours ago, DixonWard said: I keep hearing the media narrative that we don't have enough young guys pushing for spots. With Lekker, Raty, Karlsson, Silovs, DPetey, and Sasson in this game we have a bunch of guys pushing for spots. Throw in Willander, Woo, McWard, Hirose and Bains and we have maybe the most nhl-capable farm system I can remember. Maybe since the Manitoba Moose days, which is surprising. Usually the best have minimal AHL time, Brock, EP, QHs had none. Lekkermaki making a statement he's ready for the big club would be huge for us (this season). During the JB era, aside from Markstrom and Demko and a few call ups here and there, we had basically nothing in the "farm" as far as Abby goes to get that excited about. Dahlen...? Raty is our fourth best prospect right now, which includes Silovs so 3rd given Silovs is expected to graduate this year (that's awesome). Of the guys we currently have The top five are all expected to play in the NHL, D-Petey in two years, same with Willander. Lekkermaki likely gets some games this season. Raty is expected to graduate to the NHL next season too. Made strides on his two way game last season. As far as league wide, we've got a pretty tame prospect pool, and group of 21 and under's, which is to be expected at this point in our cycle. It's awfully hard to have a good NHL team or even top one, and still have a great prospect pool paying huge dividends at the same time. Last team to do that was TB. They had a top team for years, while boasting a 7-9th pool overall (regularly won adjusted drafting, drafting 28-30th, yet a 7-9th pool is nuts), no surprise once those guys joined the league and broke out, TB became even more of a powerhouse and won cups. Boston also did this. We've got an above average pool considering the picks we've traded away, well below average overall. In the low 20's for 21 and under's (THN) and 19th by Pronman. IF Lekkermaki becomes a blue chip star, and Willander QHs long term running mate, weve got a great chance at an extended window. Raty looks to be a middle six center. And hungry. Maybe the "experts" had it wrong and he's ready now. The team will need to re-sign Brock. Almost certainly. And we won't have room for more than one or two rookies a season without a trade which is fine too. It's too bad Willander or D-Petey aren't ready to push out a D this year... As for our forward group, it's as deep as ever. Deepest i've seen since Dixon Ward was playing with us maybe. Edited Wednesday at 01:07 PM by IBatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted Wednesday at 12:44 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:44 PM 6 hours ago, DixonWard said: I keep hearing the media narrative that we don't have enough young guys pushing for spots. With Lekker, Raty, Karlsson, Silovs, DPetey, and Sasson in this game we have a bunch of guys pushing for spots. Throw in Willander, Woo, McWard, Hirose and Bains and we have maybe the most nhl-capable farm system I can remember. There was a shift last night when the whistle blew in the Van zone. On the screen 5 of the 6 players had played in Abby together. As you said the farm is deepening a lot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted Wednesday at 12:55 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:55 PM I think Malholtra has been giving Raty face off tips. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted Wednesday at 12:58 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:58 PM Karlsson and Raty had great games. Hog fed off them. Karlsson has improved season to season for like 5+ years though. He’s made it a norm for him to improve on seasons, even when switching to harder leagues. Hence why I feel Tocchet likes him. Raty big improvement. Impressive game. Both guys I can see getting a lot of NHL games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted Wednesday at 01:00 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:00 PM If Karlsson can continue his trend of constant improvement into the NHL we might have a solid top 9 player here that can play up and down the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted Wednesday at 01:01 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:01 PM 12 minutes ago, Boudrias said: There was a shift last night when the whistle blew in the Van zone. On the screen 5 of the 6 players had played in Abby together. As you said the farm is deepening a lot. Reminiscent of the mid 2000's? The Moose was stacked and those pre-season games sure was nice to see guys like Bieksa, Burrows and Kesler ... could tell good things were coming our way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted Wednesday at 01:05 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:05 PM Crazy to think that the Burrows trade in the end got us Karlsson. Seems like forever ago. Karlsson isn’t afraid to go to the tough areas and get into scrums too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted Wednesday at 01:19 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:19 PM 18 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: If Karlsson can continue his trend of constant improvement into the NHL we might have a solid top 9 player here that can play up and down the lineup. He's a major pain in the ass for other teams too.......a very underrated agitator. At least he was in Abby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted Wednesday at 01:20 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:20 PM 38 minutes ago, IBatch said: Maybe since the Manitoba Moose days, which is surprising. Usually the best have minimal AHL time, Brock, EP, QHs had none. Lekkermaki making a statement he's ready for the big club would be huge for us (this season). During the JB era, aside from Markstrom and Demko and a few call ups here and there, we had basically nothing in the "farm" as far as Abby goes to get that excited about. Dahlen...? Raty is our fourth best prospect right now, which includes Silovs so 3rd given Silovs is expected to graduate this year (that's awesome). Of the guys we currently have The top five are all expected to play in the NHL, D-Petey in two years, same with Willander. Lekkermaki likely gets some games this season. Raty is expected to graduate to the NHL next season too. Made strides on his two way game last season. As far as league wide, we've got a pretty tame prospect pool, and group of 21 and under's, which is to be expected at this point in our cycle. It's awfully hard to have a good NHL team or even top one, and still have a great prospect pool paying huge dividends at the same time. Last team to do that was TB. They had a top team for years, while boasting a 7-9th pool overall (regularly won adjusted drafting, drafting 28-30th, yet a 7-9th pool is nuts), no surprise once those guys joined the league and broke out, TB became even more of a powerhouse and won cups. Boston also did this. We've got an above average pool considering the picks we've traded away, well below average overall. In the low 20's for 21 and under's (THN) and 19th by Pronman. IF Lekkermaki becomes a blue chip star, and Willander QHs long term running mate, weve got a great chance at an extended window. Raty looks to be a middle six center. And hungry. Maybe the "experts" had it wrong and he's ready now. The team will need to re-sign Brock. Almost certainly. And we won't have room for more than one or two rookies a season without a trade which is fine too. It's too bad Willander or D-Petey aren't ready to push out a D this year... As for our forward group, it's as deep as ever. Deepest i've seen since Dixon Ward was playing with us maybe. All good points and I like how the young forwards are coming along. My concern is size and snarl. The Canucks top six or nine forwards young and old. It's lacking. Outside of Joshau and JT I don't see anyone that can scare the opponents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted Wednesday at 01:24 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:24 PM 1 minute ago, Rekker said: All good points and I like how the young forwards are coming along. My concern is size and snarl. The Canucks top six or nine forwards young and old. It's lacking. Outside of Joshau and JT I don't see anyone that can scare the opponents. True. But how many good clubs have even two power forwards in their top six nowadays? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted Wednesday at 01:27 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:27 PM Just now, Alflives said: True. But how many good clubs have even two power forwards in their top six nowadays? It's the seven game series where it's push against push that concerns me. It's just a light group and Lek, as much as he looks skilled, just adds to my concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted Wednesday at 01:31 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:31 PM 2 minutes ago, Rekker said: It's the seven game series where it's push against push that concerns me. It's just a light group and Lek, as much as he looks skilled, just adds to my concern. Who will we come up against that has more physicality in their top six than we do? Add Brock to the mix of physical players too. He’s 200+ and plays very physical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM 19 minutes ago, Rekker said: It's the seven game series where it's push against push that concerns me. It's just a light group and Lek, as much as he looks skilled, just adds to my concern. I hear you but how's it different than last year? We were arguably one of the most physical teams in the NHL last year and we added Sherwood up front for this season. Zadorov was a huge part of that but come playoff time I'm sure the back-end will.figure itself out through either natural progression or a trade Where I'd like to see an improvement is for our 4C. As much as I love Suter I think we have enough depth and quality wings that we could better use a banger that's good defensively In that role like a Nolan Acciari who's my dream 4C but doubt penguins would trade him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted Wednesday at 01:55 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:55 PM 23 minutes ago, Alflives said: Who will we come up against that has more physicality in their top six than we do? Add Brock to the mix of physical players too. He’s 200+ and plays very physical. Brock has come a long ways and I give him credit. He's even gotten quicker. But if you consider Brock a very physical player than you and I will never see eye to eye on the subject Alf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM 6 minutes ago, bh90 said: I hear you but how's it different than last year? We were arguably one of the most physical teams in the NHL last year and we added Sherwood up front for this season. Zadorov was a huge part of that but come playoff time I'm sure the back-end will.figure itself out through either natural progression or a trade Where I'd like to see an improvement is for our 4C. As much as I love Suter I think we have enough depth and quality wings that we could better use a banger that's good defensively In that role like a Nolan Acciari who's my dream 4C but doubt penguins would trade him If we have a saving grace in the physicality department it's our D. Same as last year. I see many wanting to see Lek make the top six which is great for skill, but that's a soft top six. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted Wednesday at 02:00 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:00 PM 1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said: I think Malholtra has been giving Raty face off tips. I woukd only take face off advice from nicolas cage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted Wednesday at 02:27 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:27 PM JL is really noticeable, all in a good way. Hockey IQ is off the chart. He was loading up on those one timer feeds from Hronek, but couldn't quite get them in his wheelhouse. I say he plays 9 games until Joshua gets healthy. Raty is damn close and doesn't look out of place, and that goal that the three of them combined on was NHL level. Other kids who stood out were Karlsson and Alfriksson, they were both a pain in the ass to play against. This management team has got some talent to chose from for the first time in years. Heinen was very good with Aman on the PK, and at one point held the puck along the boards in the Kraken's end for a good period of time, and then tipped a pass away as the Kraken rushed up the ice. This is going to be a fun year in net too. Silovs is the real deal, and maybe the Lankinen signing lit a fire under his ass. Great game, great seats, and I caught a tshirt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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