Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted Thursday at 09:38 PM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 09:38 PM Benning is gone. Learn from the mistakes and move on. 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted Thursday at 09:40 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:40 PM 5 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: No worries. All good. I could have worded it differently in the beginning. Next time I’ll go bar down and not bar and out. God damn crossbars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted Thursday at 09:40 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:40 PM (edited) 42 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: Lol hard to argue that list. I am thankful for the core that Benning drafted. He missed on some high picks (Juolevi and Virtanen) but the list is pretty good. Problem with Benning is that he also made a few blunders that evened out a lot of his good moves (Roussel, Beagle, Dickinson, Juolevi, Virtanen , Poolman, Myers @6m) He was poor at icing a competitive team. He had too many holes. Willie Desjardins & Travis Green. Took him 7 years to find those perfect head coaches for this team. In any event, we're in great hands now. Why whine about former employees? Edited Thursday at 09:41 PM by NewbieCanuckFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted Thursday at 09:42 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:42 PM Forgive me if this has been brought up but coach toc seemed choked during the post game sighting a few guys not being in shape. He clearly hates that and made the message clear last season. I wonder who the few guys are.....petey? Soucy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted Thursday at 09:45 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:45 PM 1 minute ago, ronning4center said: Forgive me if this has been brought up but coach toc seemed choked during the post game sighting a few guys not being in shape. He clearly hates that and made the message clear last season. I wonder who the few guys are.....petey? Soucy? It was Blais. Coach Tocchet said the name. He didn’t mention anyone else. Petey and Soucy are both in fantastic shape. I heard Dryercycle came into Coiler camp as big as a blimp. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted Thursday at 09:47 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:47 PM Just now, NewbieCanuckFan said: Willie Desjardins & Travis Green. Took him 7 years to find those perfect head coaches for this team. Coaching through a rebuild and you expect a winner? You might need a few more years and you’ll be a VeteranCanuckFan and might understand things by then. old core goes out (takes a couple seasons) new core comes in (SEVERAL YEARS) development/growing pains (4-5 years to establish themselves) supporting cast contending it takes 8-10 years to build a contender from scratch and that’s with the help of number 1 picks. A few years faster if they are generational talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted Thursday at 09:49 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:49 PM Just now, AnthonyG said: Coaching through a rebuild and you expect a winner? You might need a few more years and you’ll be a VeteranCanuckFan and might understand things by then. old core goes out (takes a couple seasons) new core comes in (SEVERAL YEARS) development/growing pains (4-5 years to establish themselves) supporting cast contending it takes 8-10 years to build a contender from scratch and that’s with the help of number 1 picks. A few years faster if they are generational talent. When did Dim Jim ever make a rebuilding move? He drafted high by default and not by intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jaimito Posted Thursday at 09:52 PM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 09:52 PM New guy next game 4 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted Thursday at 09:56 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:56 PM 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: When did Dim Jim ever make a rebuilding move? He drafted high by default and not by intent. Kesler+Bieksa+Hansen+Burrows not like he had anything favourable to move out and truly get ahead. He got what he could. The twins retired, Hamhuis refused to waive as did Edler. Hands are kinda tied aren’t they? MAYBE just MAYBE if Francesco allowed a rebuild sooner, we may have been able to acquire better value on players sooner and been able to speed up the rebuild. However 5 years is all it took to set this core and without a single top 3 pick. Hows NJDs 13 year rebuild been goin? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted Thursday at 09:58 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:58 PM 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted Thursday at 10:01 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:01 PM 6 minutes ago, Jaimito said: New guy next game Excellent. Excited and eager to see Lankinen. Good call to run with Stellar Saviour Silovs on Saturday! Good "S" energy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted Thursday at 10:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:14 PM When is it Miller time? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KFAN Posted Thursday at 10:15 PM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 10:15 PM First time to the forum this pre-season, and happy to see everyone back with analysis of the players and the games. I caught the 1st game, but missed last night, but the replays show pretty damn good. From what I see and what I read from all of you, it seems the PA/RT regime continues to impress. I am so looking forward to the season getting underway! Yes, Canucks hockey is back! GCG!!! 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted Thursday at 10:19 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:19 PM 1 hour ago, Breadnbutta said: I agree Lek looks like he isn't ready, his shot is but his frame maybe not so much.. however I read somewhere that if he's penciled in on opening night we can accrue his performance bonuses against the cap for later in the year. I might be wrong or not understanding the Uber complex cba but if it benefits this team financially, I think he stays for a couple games to show his worth. I posted this explanatory CanucksArmy piece in Lekky's thread a couple of weeks ago ... https://canucksarmy.com/news/why-jonathan-lekkerimaki-performance-bonuses-canucks-tough-spot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jaimito Posted Thursday at 10:31 PM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 10:31 PM Nice seeing them for the fans in the province. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted Thursday at 10:34 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:34 PM 34 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: Kesler+Bieksa+Hansen+Burrows not like he had anything favourable to move out and truly get ahead. He got what he could. The twins retired, Hamhuis refused to waive as did Edler. Hands are kinda tied aren’t they? MAYBE just MAYBE if Francesco allowed a rebuild sooner, we may have been able to acquire better value on players sooner and been able to speed up the rebuild. However 5 years is all it took to set this core and without a single top 3 pick. Hows NJDs 13 year rebuild been goin? So Jimbob did what his owner told him to do. He put his job security ahead of what was best for the club. Gillis, like the guys before him, never did that. They each took a bullet (from the owner) instead of giving in to what he wanted. JT Miller said, after Dim Jim’s terrible choices after the bubble playoff success, he didn’t get what management was doing. The players knew how bad Jimmy was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GrammaInTheTub Posted Thursday at 10:35 PM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 10:35 PM Who the hell got Anthony started on Benning? I blame you because obviously Anthony can’t help it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted Thursday at 10:36 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:36 PM Debate previous regimes elsewhere not in this thread, please and thank you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted Thursday at 10:40 PM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 10:40 PM 4 minutes ago, GrammaInTheTub said: Who the hell got Anthony started on Benning? I blame you because obviously Anthony can’t help it. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted Thursday at 10:47 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:47 PM 1 hour ago, CanucksJay said: He was poor at icing a competitive team. He had too many holes. Well that also has to do with player performance too. A Pretty fair portion of our struggles were directly related to the youth learning what it takes to become a true pro. 2021-22 Petey showed up to camp last minute and had an absolutely brutal first half of the season. It took him over 40 games to finally get going and the team missed playoffs by just a few wins. 24 times Petey was held pointless in the first half of that season. Imagine if he showed up to camp early like he did the following season and put up over 100pts. We would have been a playoff team without a fuckin doubt. Petey learned a valuable lesson and had it not been for the injury last year, he was well on his way to crack over 100pts and that’s with averaging just over 13mins TOI…. Hughes had his down season when he was an atrocity in his own end. Demko had health issues to start the 2022-23 season and then went down and was out for a lengthy amount of time. Boeser fought injuries his first few seasons and then dealt with his dads losing battle then finally 2023-24 Pettersson, Hughes, Demko, Miller and Boeser are all finally playing like stars all at the same time and we finally got to see the true potential and the real product on ice. it has always been there, just not all at the same time. When Boeser and Petey were struggling, Horvat and Miller were carrying the load when Boeser led the team in points, Hughes struggled immensely in his own end and Pettersson was out. When Petey, Hughes and Miller were on fire, Demko was out and Boeser was struggling.. then….when Boeser finally got the monkey off his back and was able to have that full year in 2022-23 to process his dads death, he finally broke out (which I called that 2 years prior that last season would be the season he breaks out) Demko was a wall, Hughes was the Norris, Petey was lights out until the injury but nonetheless we had depth, Miller cracked 100pts, Boeser hit 40 Finally it all came together. It has ALWAYS been there, just not all at once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzan Posted Thursday at 11:02 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:02 PM 14 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: Well that also has to do with player performance too. A Pretty fair portion of our struggles were directly related to the youth learning what it takes to become a true pro. 2021-22 Petey showed up to camp last minute and had an absolutely brutal first half of the season. It took him over 40 games to finally get going and the team missed playoffs by just a few wins. 24 times Petey was held pointless in the first half of that season. Imagine if he showed up to camp early like he did the following season and put up over 100pts. We would have been a playoff team without a fuckin doubt. Petey learned a valuable lesson and had it not been for the injury last year, he was well on his way to crack over 100pts and that’s with averaging just over 13mins TOI…. Hughes had his down season when he was an atrocity in his own end. Demko had health issues to start the 2022-23 season and then went down and was out for a lengthy amount of time. Boeser fought injuries his first few seasons and then dealt with his dads losing battle then finally 2023-24 Pettersson, Hughes, Demko, Miller and Boeser are all finally playing like stars all at the same time and we finally got to see the true potential and the real product on ice. it has always been there, just not all at the same time. When Boeser and Petey were struggling, Horvat and Miller were carrying the load when Boeser led the team in points, Hughes struggled immensely in his own end and Pettersson was out. When Petey, Hughes and Miller were on fire, Demko was out and Boeser was struggling.. then….when Boeser finally got the monkey off his back and was able to have that full year in 2022-23 to process his dads death, he finally broke out (which I called that 2 years prior that last season would be the season he breaks out) Demko was a wall, Hughes was the Norris, Petey was lights out until the injury but nonetheless we had depth, Miller cracked 100pts, Boeser hit 40 Finally it all came together. It has ALWAYS been there, just not all at once. Aw man - I can just let most of this stuff go - but Hughes an atrocity in his own end? Like one or two games maybe when he was 21? This is just not backed by truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekai Posted Thursday at 11:09 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:09 PM 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Zero chance PDG plays with Debrusk and Petey. I hope not! But i could see tocchet again with pdg - jt - boeser then hog-petey-debrusk heinen - suter - garly sprong - raty - sherwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted Thursday at 11:13 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:13 PM 1 minute ago, Mordekai said: I hope not! But i could see tocchet again with pdg - jt - boeser then hog-petey-debrusk heinen - suter - garly sprong - raty - sherwood Maybe until DJ is back? It’s nice to have depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted Thursday at 11:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:17 PM Some off day fun while we wait for Friday to roll around... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted Thursday at 11:22 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:22 PM I guess EP40 is going to be like Sundin and go for the look like his coach? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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