24K Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 6 minutes ago, Breadnbutta said: Tampa, vegas, etc. I'm sure there is more. I never really understood it until recently when all this moving poolmans contract talk started. It's not a loophole, it's completely legal. So I'm not even mad at Vegas or Tampa or whoever had done so in the past, it's legal. I'm glad we have a competent management who is making the moves to make us the best we can be. And Vegas and Tampa are good models Legal doesn't make it ethical. Vegas I can be fine with cause their lineup on the ice was cap compliant more of less through the playoffs. That is my grivience, just make the lineup a team ice during the playoffs cap compliant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spook007 Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 Alvin is awesome... its simply incredible how he constantly pulls rabbits out of the hat.... We had too many winger, so he turned a winger, who wouldn't be on the roster into a D-man and got rid of Poolman and his contract along the way.. It's so much fun following this team under JR/PAs leadership... always something cooking... Damn did Aquiline do well, when he got JR in to run the show. 9 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Crossbar Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 Every time someone says accrue, take a drink. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 1 minute ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Every time someone says accrue, take a drink. I am just here to get wasted on everyone complimenting Allvin like he just made the greatest trade in the history of the sport. 2 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 36 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: We get a Swedish puck moving Dman who can play on the 3rd pairing with Desharnais. We get rid of Poolman's contract so we don't have to go into LTIR this season. And we gain over $2 million in cap space that can accrue over the next 6 months so we can make a big trade at the deadline for a cup run. All of this cost us a 4th round pick... In Allvin we trust... Except they need forbort as 3LHD for the pk. I'm not sure they don't just flip him. Where is there a spot for him? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Good trade, was wondering if they'd find a way to move that contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 7 minutes ago, 24K said: My question is why would Avs do this? Can't just be for the 4th round pick and afraid of losing Brannstrom to waivers. Because they will certainly be operating in LTIR this season. So just gives them an extra $2 million in LTIR room... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Just now, stawns said: Except they need forbort as 3LHD for the pk. I'm not sure they don't just flip him. Where is there a spot for him? He was waived so he will be first call up from Abby... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 1 minute ago, stawns said: Except they need forbort as 3LHD for the pk. I'm not sure they don't just flip him. Where is there a spot for him? Yes he is heading to AHL if not taken while on waivers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 1 minute ago, stawns said: Except they need forbort as 3LHD for the pk. I'm not sure they don't just flip him. Where is there a spot for him? He’ll start in Abby. Good to have a puck mover in the system just in case. We have enough stay at home guys. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: He’ll start in Abby. Good to have a puck mover in the system just in case. We have enough stay at home guys. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jaimito Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 12 minutes ago, spook007 said: Alvin is awesome... its simply incredible how he constantly pulls rabbits out of the hat.... We had too many winger, so he turned a winger, who wouldn't be on the roster into a D-man and got rid of Poolman and his contract along the way.. It's so much fun following this team under JR/PAs leadership... always something cooking... Damn did Aquiline do well, when he got JR in to run the show. That's why I'm optimistic this is finally the core that will win a cup in their window. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadnbutta Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 11 minutes ago, 24K said: Legal doesn't make it ethical. Vegas I can be fine with cause their lineup on the ice was cap compliant more of less through the playoffs. That is my grivience, just make the lineup a team ice during the playoffs cap compliant. There is no salary cap in the playoffs so pretty much any team is cap compliant I miss the days of Gillis and Gillman mucking it up. I know we ended up with the Luongo rule recapture penalty which was bs but whatever. Whatever it takes to ice the best team possible. If I'm in a street fight, I'll fight dirty if I need to, to win. It's all about winning at all costs. That's why players like Marchand, tkachuk, etc are so successful. Whatever it takes and if it starts at management it will trickle on through the coaching staff and onto the ice. No more country club. This is JR, Chef Pat and Tocchet hockey. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JamesB Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 Primarily just trading a 4th round pick to clear cap space and allow the team to operate out of LTIR this season. Brannstrom was a first round pick based on skating and puck-moving ability but he never developed into a legitimate "offensive defenceman" at the NHL level. He is small, soft, and is so-so defensively. And any NHL team that wants him (including Colorado) can pick him up off waivers. Not sure exactly why he was included in the trade. Colorado would probably have put him on waivers so by trading him they free up a contract slot and save some money (just cash). Or maybe the Canucks wanted him, hoping he would clear waivers and be a potential injury back-up. But it is not like the Canucks are short of LHDs in Abby. They have Wolanin, Brisebois, D-Petey, Hirose, and Kuds already. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Just now, Jaimito said: That's why I'm optimistic this is finally the core that will win a cup in their window. Yes I have to agree... everything seems to be well planned... I am definitely optimistic about the way forward... While it remains to be seen, last year we got done in 7 games v the cup finalists... and I think we are strong this year... We are definitely moving towards it... Bring it home.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 2 minutes ago, JamesB said: Primarily just trading a 4th round pick to clear cap space and allow the team to operate out of LTIR this season. Brannstrom was a first round pick based on skating and puck-moving ability but he never developed into a legitimate "offensive defenceman" at the NHL level. He is small, soft, and is so-so defensively. And any NHL team that wants him (including Colorado) can pick him up off waivers. Not sure exactly why he was included in the trade. Colorado would probably have put him on waivers so by trading him they free up a contract slot and save some money (just cash). Or maybe the Canucks wanted him, hoping he would clear waivers and be a potential injury back-up. But it is not like the Canucks are short of LHDs in Abby. They have Wolanin, Brisebois, D-Petey, Hirose, and Kuds already. That's what I think. I'm not so sure we'll ever see him in a Canucks uni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Seems amazing that it only cost a 4th and 500k of dead cap to get rid of Poolman. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeBossy Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 Just now, Jess said: Seems amazing that it only cost a 4th and 500k of dead cap to get rid of Poolman. In before the first post bitches about getting rid of another draft pick 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 17 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Because they will certainly be operating in LTIR this season. So just gives them an extra $2 million in LTIR room... I was assuming a combination of they would need the LTI help and didn't want to risk losing Brannstrom on waivers for nothing. But it's a good move for the cap space and hopefully we don't lose Brannstrom on waivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hogs and Podz Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 7 minutes ago, Breadnbutta said: There is no salary cap in the playoffs so pretty much any team is cap compliant I miss the days of Gillis and Gillman mucking it up. I know we ended up with the Luongo rule recapture penalty which was bs but whatever. Whatever it takes to ice the best team possible. If I'm in a street fight, I'll fight dirty if I need to, to win. It's all about winning at all costs. That's why players like Marchand, tkachuk, etc are so successful. Whatever it takes and if it starts at management it will trickle on through the coaching staff and onto the ice. No more country club. This is JR, Chef Pat and Tocchet hockey. yah.... that's what Bowman said. No, not at all costs. Selling your soul to the devil to win, is wrong and isn't worth it. Bowman and Co shouldn't even be working in the NHL right now. 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Breadnbutta said: Sooo... Hughes Hronek Soucy Myers Brannstrom Desharnais Forbort Juulsen I don't see him supplanting Forbort, likely more of a 7 or 8 option. Edit: he is headed to the AHL Edited October 6 by NoCupSyndrome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 1 hour ago, Blue said: Freidman hasn't got enough credit for how he has played. We are not content with small things anymore.This is not small club.Should use to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRover Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 i like the move, bit of a gamble x2...or x3 depending how you look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 14 minutes ago, JamesB said: Primarily just trading a 4th round pick to clear cap space and allow the team to operate out of LTIR this season. Brannstrom was a first round pick based on skating and puck-moving ability but he never developed into a legitimate "offensive defenceman" at the NHL level. He is small, soft, and is so-so defensively. And any NHL team that wants him (including Colorado) can pick him up off waivers. Not sure exactly why he was included in the trade. Colorado would probably have put him on waivers so by trading him they free up a contract slot and save some money (just cash). Or maybe the Canucks wanted him, hoping he would clear waivers and be a potential injury back-up. But it is not like the Canucks are short of LHDs in Abby. They have Wolanin, Brisebois, D-Petey, Hirose, and Kuds already. Brannstrom is on a one way contract, so by trading him Colorado gets his contract off the books. If they would have waived him and he wasn't picked up, then they would have had to pay him $900k to play in the minors. Allvin took the contract because it could be fully buried in the minors while shedding $2 million of Poolman's contract off the books so they could free up $2 million in cap space... 3 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 I hope he clears. He’s better then Hirose etc, D Petey needs a year or 2 in minors 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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