Popular Post flickyoursedin Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 Ain’t no rest for the wicked! Alvin just always seems to be working on things love to see it! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJockitch Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 PA does not sit still. Never. He is always moving. Like Muhammad Ali with ADHD. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 52 minutes ago, Coconuts said: 24 goals last season, caveat is he had a 20% shooting percentage so he's probably due for some regression If he can hit at least 15 goals that's good value I agree. I think he can still improve overall with more shots and assists, but his goals will very likely drop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 3 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: PA does not sit still. Never. He is always moving. Like Muhammad Ali with ADHD. Float like a butterfly and sting like an ADHD Bee. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 2 minutes ago, Jess said: I agree. I think he can still improve overall with more shots and assists, but his goals will very likely drop. Did Hogs score any goals on the pp? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-68 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Great signing, love the way Pumba plays. My prediction is ... oh wait, I am not good on predictions so won't jynx good ole Pumba. However, should he average out at 20g 20a a season over the next 3 years, this will be an excellent value contract (duh!). Last season, Hogz averaged 12:47 TOI and played very little PP. Should he play on the 3rd line with Garland and Raty for most of the season (yes, have to take a long look at Gar / Blug / Dak) then I would hazard a guess any regression in shooting percentage would be offset by an increase in number of shots ... so 20g 20a average not out of the realm of possibility. If he does hit that, then will be set up nicely for a pay increase at the next contract signing. Speaking of which, How does a UFA have arbitration rights? This is one I haven't seen before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Did Hogs score any goals on the pp? No, he has two career powerplay goals for the Canucks and most powerplays will mostly be used by the first unit https://www.quanthockey.com/hockey-stats/en/profile.php?player=53522 Maybe he chips in on the second unit, but it's unlikely he beats out any of the following for the first unit: Boeser, Pettersson, Hughes, Miller, Hronek, and DeBrusk He did most of his damage at even strength, which while great, means any scoring drop off at even strength probably won't be significantly mitigated by increased powerplay production unless powerplay time is spread out more evenly amongst the units Edited October 7 by Coconuts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Did Hogs score any goals on the pp? You're right. In 42 minutes of PP time last year, he failed to register a single power play point, in fact. Something he clearly needs to work on. Reminds me of Garland's struggles in the past, actually. The two are very similar players, though Hoglander is built much thicker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Did Hogs score any goals on the pp? Exactly. He hadn’t gotten one on the PP and was never there. This whole regression by shooting percentage is a bit exaggerated. The guy has a lot of offensive talent. All those goals were even strength. Put him on the PP in the second unit. I can see him become a 30 goal scorer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxNaslundxX Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Hogs is around for a good time and a long time. One of our best ever 2nd rd picks imo. Happy with this deal for him and us. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 8 minutes ago, Alflives said: Did Hogs score any goals on the pp? He got one in the first exhibition game ..... https://www.nhl.com/video/sea-van-hoglander-scores-goal-against-joey-daccord-6362418931112 Then a great assist on Bains' goal in the final game 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 4 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: Exactly. He hadn’t gotten one on the PP and was never there. This whole regression by shooting percentage is a bit exaggerated. The guy has a lot of offensive talent. All those goals were even strength. Put him on the PP in the second unit. I can see him become a 30 goal scorer And he’s a little prick (ly pear). Hogs and Garland on a third line (Raty at centre) would be absolutely no fun to play against. Three pests. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post luckylager Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 37 minutes ago, Alflives said: Float like a butterfly and sting like a hey look at that squirrel Fixed 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Hmm did not see this one coming before season starts. It's good that we don't have to let Hogz get to RFA and risk another team giving him an offer sheet. Management and coach must believe in him to give him an extension now. We can't keep everyone...but we can worry about that later. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 That is equivalent to what like 2.5-2.7m during the flat cap era? taking in consideration salary % of that contract vs the teams. That is a steal if he remains relevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dlc- Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 (Petey's drawing of Hoglander) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Glad this got done before the season started. Imagine he started white hot. Depending on who his agent is , it could have spelled trouble. Hogs has the same ES goals as Draisitle. Dylan Guenther got 7 million. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 The Swedish chef sure is cookin today !! This looks like a great deal given the way Hogz is tracking, 3 years at 3M ties him in through the buyout pain years and if he can score 25+ a season and move up the lineup he's gonna earn this and then some. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeDoctor Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 I think it’s amazing that we drafted and developed him well. He has come a long way. His defensive game has vastly improved. This guy can play anywhere in the lineup and at 3 million he is a steal. Congratulations Hoglander. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 WOW I was always on board w xtending Hoagie. But at 3 million? PA absolutely knocked it out of the park. Kudos to Hoagie too-this seems like a very team friendly/ fair deal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Guys are all buying in. Lfg. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Loving it! Hoglander looked great the last game, so much skill on that stick. I think he has huge upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuckpuckluck1 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Rocket-68 said: Great signing, love the way Pumba plays. My prediction is ... oh wait, I am not good on predictions so won't jynx good ole Pumba. However, should he average out at 20g 20a a season over the next 3 years, this will be an excellent value contract (duh!). Last season, Hogz averaged 12:47 TOI and played very little PP. Should he play on the 3rd line with Garland and Raty for most of the season (yes, have to take a long look at Gar / Blug / Dak) then I would hazard a guess any regression in shooting percentage would be offset by an increase in number of shots ... so 20g 20a average not out of the realm of possibility. If he does hit that, then will be set up nicely for a pay increase at the next contract signing. Speaking of which, How does a UFA have arbitration rights? This is one I haven't seen before. @Rocket-68 No Worries mate! He'll be fine 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Alflives said: And he’s a little prick (ly pear). Hogs and Garland on a third line (Raty at centre) would be absolutely no fun to play against. Three pests. Joshua will be on the 3rd line when he returns. Höglander will play up and down the lineup. Could also take Garland’s spot next season. Not sure we are going to extend Garland. He’s an expensive luxury on the 3rd line. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Honestly thought he’d be hard to keep after this season and we might have to let him walk. Another 5 on 5 scoring ace locked up for a reasonable deal. He's only 23 and came into camp in phenomenal shape. As I think most of us agree on - it should be a huge steal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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