[PGT] Vancouver Canucks @ Tampa Bay Lightning Oct 15

[The Aquaman]

Man losing sucks.

[Michael Scott]

3 minutes ago, Canuck You said:

Trade the 1 forward who is actually doing all he can...Makes sense...

The one forward that has value, and may not be in the teams long term plan. 

[Pianoman]

45 minutes ago, JamesB said:

Disappointing to get another loss, but it is not as bad as a lot of the comments indicate.

 

1. Tampa was the better team, but not by a big margin. Shots were 28 to 27 for Tampa (almost even) and the Canucks were ahead in all-strength Corsi and in scoring chances. Vasilevsky was great and Silovs was so-so. I am not saying Silovs was bad, but Vasilevsky was excellent and the team with the better goalie won, as often happens.

 

2. The first goal was created by a dreadful sequence from Juulsen. First, he fell, giving up possession of the puck, then he lost a puck battle to Kucherov, then he abandoned Kucherov in a prime shooting position cross-check a guy in front of the net already being checked by Suter. The left Kucherov open for a the dreaded cross-seam pass and it seemed like he had half the net the puck the puck in as Silovs was slow getting over.  I like Juulsen and am happy with him as 7th man. But if he is playing every night, your D is not very good.  The second goal was a shot from a bad angle that seemed to catch Silovs leaning too hard to the short side.

 

3. Silovs made some good saves, but I would definitely go with Lankinen. Tocc seems to like Silovs a lot even though his overall save percentage with Vancouver is below .900.

 

4. Pettersson had a better game and was close on several occasions. He should still shoot more, though. Sooner or later the puck has to start going in for him again.

 

5. Hughes and Hronek were excellent again (especially Hughes). Miller and Boeser also continue to look good and had good underlying numbers. And Garland continues to be excellent. In addition to getting the only goal, he led the team in Corsi and scoring chance percentage. Scoring chances were 11 to 4 with him on the ice.

 

6. Last year the team started the season with a red-hot PDO. It was unsustainable but it remained good all season. This year, after 3 games, the Canucks are among the worst in the league. To the extent that PDO measures luck, the Canucks should be able to turn things around.

Best post so far!

[RakuRaku]

I predict that sooner or later we're gonna see Lekkerimaki and Blais up, Aman and Sprong down!!

[steviewonder20]

1 hour ago, Toni Zamboni said:

 

I didn't like that they cancelled that show too early.

[stawns]

11 minutes ago, Michael Scott said:

The one forward that has value, and may not be in the teams long term plan. 

 

Why wouldn't he be in their long term plan?

[CRAZY_4_NAZZY]

This team earned the benefit of the doubt in the first two games, but the way they started so flat was so unacceptable on all fronts.

 

Seems like the players have resorted back to Bruce Boudreau hockey where the team started half way through the game, poor defensive details, and very little cohesion. Its very disheartening to see how much ground this group made last season, only to sort of forget their identity as a team.

 

Onto the next one, but they need to wake up.

 

 

[tas]

17 minutes ago, The Aquaman said:

Man losing sucks.

losing sucks, but the reasons they're losing are concerning. the process isn't there. the staples are gone. 

[Outsiders]

Get Suter off the 4th line, dude is a swiss army knife and wins battles

[RU SERIOUS]

2 hours ago, The Aquaman said:

It’s the beer talking here or my common sense, but we need another top 6 F and another top 4 D.

If only we had one of those 11-6 super stars on our team!

[Dumb Nuck]

1 minute ago, RU SERIOUS said:

If only we had one of those 11-6 super stars on our team!

We used to for a lot cheaper.

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 04:15 AM by Dumb Nuck

[stawns]

8 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

This team earned the benefit of the doubt in the first two games, but the way they started so flat was so unacceptable on all fronts.

 

Seems like the players have resorted back to Bruce Boudreau hockey where the team started half way through the game, poor defensive details, and very little cohesion. Its very disheartening to see how much ground this group made last season, only to sort of forget their identity as a team.

 

Onto the next one, but they need to wake up.

 

 

 

Again, this isn't new.  This is how they played from January on, last season.  Probably best to accept that this is likely who they are

[RU SERIOUS]

2 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

We weren't hitting at all.

Too slow! Most of the guys look out of shape and gassed after 20 minutes (especially Miller and Chaos Giraffe).  Too bad they didn't show up in shape like last year and played in pre-season games together to gel and get "the bugs" worked out.

[RU SERIOUS]

2 hours ago, Provost said:

Definitely the beer… because we need TWO top 6 F and TWO top 4 D.

 

,,,,don't forget a Goalie !!!!

[Michael Scott]

11 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

Why wouldn't he be in their long term plan?

His contract is too rich for 3rd line. You could move him to 2nd but lekkermaki is coming up next year or the year after. I just feel like his money should be moved to defense.  That's just my opinion. 

[Dumb Nuck]

I’m just glad we haven’t had any back to back games, I’m way too old for that much sympathy sex.

[PureQuickness]

Desjarnais was clearly not the problem.

[DarthMelvin]

Ahhhhh.... it's good.to being back to the old ways.

 

 

It just feels right...

[The Aquaman]

Hughes Hronek

Soucy xxxxx

Myers Forbort/Juulsen/Mcward/Deharnais 

 

 

That’s a good D,

 

Still need an impact player in the top 6. Either Joshua or Hogländer, have to claim it.

[RU SERIOUS]

1 hour ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said:

Problem I have with Pettersson is how he left last season. I just thought he would be hungrier and would come in flying. He still looks scared. I just don’t see superstar because of that lack of confidence. Most players can break through and a lot earlier than how long it’s taken Petey.

I agree.   He looks super timid and petrified to be withing a foot of anyone.  If his slump - that started last January - keeps up, you can  bet JR will overrule PA and consider dumping our #1 swede because this year is the last year we can unload him before we're stuck for him into the next decade with his NTC that kicks-in next year.  Hopefully we don't get stuck with another long term salary retention/cap hit like the Luongo and O.E.L. deals when he's finally unloaded.

[Keslers Ghost]

Team defence needs some work.. how many times did a Lightning player walk down or get a grade A from the top of the right circle?

 

Garland and Petey looked good.

[AnotherCanucksFan]

Wondering how they start in Florida? So far, they just haven't been cohesive as a team. Costly goals being out of position. Against Florida, that could end up with 5 goals in the net. Florida is by far our hardest opponent yet, so Canucks better be awake and play smart hockey.

[AnotherCanucksFan]

5 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said:

I agree.   He looks super timid and petrified to be withing a foot of anyone.  If his slump - that started last January - keeps up, you can  bet JR will overrule PA and consider dumping our #1 swede because this year is the last year we can unload him before we're stuck for him into the next decade with his NTC that kicks-in next year.  Hopefully we don't get stuck with another long term salary retention/cap hit like the Luongo and O.E.L. deals when he's finally unloaded.

That's a good point about us still being able to unload Petey this year. If he stays cold and we're locked into his NTC, it will be the 3rd worst deal we've made. I did like Hoglander playing on Petey's line. I hope they continue with that option.

[BobbyClarke]

Reunite the lotto line!

[RU SERIOUS]

2 hours ago, Northern_Nuck said:

We drove down his value first. I got Shit on all over this board for saying  that he’s gonna be an annual 40g 90pt guy, but Tocchet doesn’t know how to coach those guys. 

I agree 100%.  Throwing a 40g scorer away (that also complimented and helped 11-6 play much better) along with two draft Picks (one of them a badly needed very high 1st rounder + a 4th rounder) plus two defensive prospects (one of them very promising) all for an over the hill greedy - beat-up, old disinterested Rental Swede - who we lost for nothing in the end - is a crime in itself. That trade always seems to reminded me of when we lost Toffolli and went "all-in" on Jake "The Ripper". and Toffolli got 11x the points next season as Jake did.  

Don't feel bad because I heard all the same BS last year from swede-centric's trying to defend that dumb-ass trade and was right (like you and many others) all along!     I also agree that Tock-it needs to allow (or tolerate) some of those "Free-wheels" like Kuz who may not be the defensive back-checkers he likes, but makes up for it much more in their offensive abilities, character and ability to lift other players.   One size does NOT always fit All!

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 04:59 AM by RU SERIOUS
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