The Duke Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, CaptainCanuck12 said: I'm sure the Canucks would love to add Peeke's size on D, but if Bernard-Docker can be had for free, that might be too good an opportunity for Allvin to pass up. Might just be determined by seeing if he falls to us or not. Anyone have any idea where we stand in the waiver claim pecking order as of now? Is it the same as the draft order? I think it’s just reverse draft order or just reverse previous points - and doesn’t matter how many claims you make the positions stay all year. You’re right about the free asset, too. Interesting case here for Allvin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, RWJC said: CGY C Ben Jones is a surprising name/option according to Flames blogger Trevor Neufeld: “Clarke Bishop, Ben Jones, Colton Poolman and Oskar Dansk will report to the AHL squad to start preparing for the regular season. The biggest surprise was Jones. The 6’0”, 190lb center plays a hard game. The 24 year old center made a strong case to slot in on the fourth line at camp this time around. The former Niagara Icedog put up a respectable 17 goals and 54 points in 71 games last season on the Flames’ affiliate.” We already have decent C depth for Abby though so I can’t see us claiming him. If we claimed him we would have to leave him on our NHL roster. Otherwise we waive him and every other team can take him... including Calgary would could then send him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, Coryberg said: If we claimed him we would have to leave him on our NHL roster. Otherwise we waive him and every other team can take him... including Calgary would could then send him down. Thanks, I realize that. What I meant is it would prohibit some Abby C depth from possibly being called up…Raty, Sasson, Dowling, Neilsen, Wouters have all been invested into and PA might want to see how some of them perform with the big club prior to making a C waiver claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliPeterson40 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 We should be taking a hard look at JBD, if he makes it to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, EliPeterson40 said: We should be taking a hard look at JBD, if he makes it to us I mean I get the whole right handed shot former first round young defenseman but honestly he hasn't shown anything that would warrant making a claim for him. I mean where would he slot in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: I mean I get the whole right handed shot former first round young defenseman but honestly he hasn't shown anything that would warrant making a claim for him. I mean where would he slot in? Yeah, I’m always intrigued by 1st rounders hitting the waiver wire but Taj is such a mouth breathing idiot. “He’s better than what they have on the RHS” no he’s exactly what the Canucks have like 2-3 of after Hronek and Myers. Young 6-foot-190-pound players who have shown some promise but haven’t done enough to stick in the NHL. We’re really quite flush with that, actually. Edited October 3, 2023 by The Duke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, EliPeterson40 said: We should be taking a hard look at JBD, if he makes it to us Very tempting... But I still think we're better served by one of Bjork, Pachal or Coghlan as stop gap Hughes partners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 44 minutes ago, aGENT said: Very tempting... But I still think we're better served by one of Bjork, Pachal or Coghlan as stop gap Hughes partners Yeah, I like Coghlan too. Lots of NHL experience, and a BC boy as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 14 hours ago, King Heffy said: Ryan Miller has issued a very accurate assessment of Lucic. Miller was never a teammate of Lucic's. Try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativika Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 At this point, I don't think we need any more projects. Nor should we think about waiver cast offs for RD acquisitions. I mean, they're other team cast offs so why would we wan 'em?!?!?!?!?!???? Yea, I know. We could get lucky. But then we'd possibly be in a Kravtsov scenario. Surely Kravtsov was promising for what we gave up for him, but a freebie from the waiver wire in preseason isn't too promising. Mostly............ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-19 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 JBD is one we should look at closely. A 2018 1st round draft pick that's a right-handed defensive dman that skates well. I view him as an immediate upgrade + better potential than Noah Juulsen. I suspect we are keep two healthy scratches for Dmen with each type of handedness. Hughes McWard Cole Hronek Soucy Myers Wolanin JBD Brisbois Juulson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSAcanuck Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Still no one that really adds anything we need or moves the needle in terms of being much better than what we already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 13 hours ago, EliPeterson40 said: We should be taking a hard look at JBD, if he makes it to us Take a hard look at this first…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: Take a hard look at this first…. He’s not huge or an offensive guy. What else are we looking at? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Devron said: He’s not huge or an offensive guy. What else are we looking at? Absolutely nothing to see here. That’s my point 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Devron said: He’s not huge or an offensive guy. What else are we looking at? A new acronym. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Grandmaster said: Absolutely nothing to see here. That’s my point Fair enough hah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: Absolutely nothing to see here. That’s my point He is a Defensive dman his Hockey DB page wont jump out at you. He had a hell of a year in 2020-21: 2020-2021 NCAA (NCHC) Best Defensive Defenseman NCAA (NCHC) Champion NCAA (NCHC) Regular Season Champion NCAA (NCHC) Second All-Star Team World Championship Gold Medal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NucksRuleYou Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Of course no one was claimed. They suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, NucksRuleYou said: Of course no one was claimed. They suck. JBD is better than every single RHD on the Oilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 From an article this morning by Drance in the Athletic: Waiver targets The Canucks need another right-handed defender, but unfortunately (and obviously), NHL teams are loathe to waive players matching that description. Between now and the roster deadline, there could still be a few intriguing names that surface on the wire and it’ll be interesting to see if the Canucks put in a claim to bolster their depth. One thing to note here is that Vancouver’s poor performance last season is an edge in this particular marketplace. As a result of its finish last season, Vancouver owns the 11th-highest waiver priority through Nov. 1. One of those intriguing names that could hit the wire is Ottawa Senators defender Jacob Bernard-Docker, who will be waived by the Senators on Tuesday, the club announced. Still just 23 years old, Bernard-Docker is certainly interesting because of his age and skating ability, but there should be real questions about his ability to hold up in more than a third-pair role. The fit seems particularly problematic if he’s asked to play with Hughes. We know Hughes can carry a pair, of course, but there’s still a baseline level of puck skill required to effectively complement him. Chris Tanev, Jordie Benn and Luke Schenn might not be dynamic puck carriers, but they share the common trait of being passable — or even deceptively good — at passing the puck. That’s what permitted them to effectively recycle pucks over to Hughes without wasting possessions. Tucker Poolman is an example of a player who didn’t hit that baseline level of puck skill. It’s why he never really fit on Hughes’ right side despite being a great skater and having solid defensive instincts. I’d suggest Bernard-Docker profiles closer to a Poolman type, without the size, than a Schenn type. Looking over the numbers game that various teams are dealing with around the league, there aren’t many who fit the bill in terms of right-side defenders who could be waived. Here are some names that stand out at a glance. 1. Dylan Coghlan from Duncan, B.C. seems like he’ll be in tough to break camp with the Carolina Hurricanes. 2. Daniil Miromanov, 26, of the Vegas Golden Knights is interesting as a late-blooming 6-foot-4 righty with a decent scoring profile. Yes, he is a Dan Milstein client. 3. Grant Hutton is big, right-handed, can defend and will likely get lost in the shuffle on Long Island. All of these players are better suited as third-pair defenders or outright depth guys. Even if Hughes’ partner is used situationally and averages third-pair minutes in games, trying to fill a premium spot in the lineup at this juncture is extremely difficult to do effectively on the waiver wire. https://theathletic.com/4924637/2023/10/03/vancouver-canucks-preseason-elias-pettersson/?amp=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, CaptainCanuck12 said: I'm sure the Canucks would love to add Peeke's size on D, but if Bernard-Docker can be had for free, that might be too good an opportunity for Allvin to pass up. Might just be determined by seeing if he falls to us or not. Anyone have any idea where we stand in the waiver claim pecking order as of now? Is it the same as the draft order? Season standings from last year until November. I don't know enough about B-D to say if his other attributes overcome his not that impressive 2 assists in 32 NHL games. He's not small at least and is supposed to be good defensively, but is that side of his game developed enough to overcome the lack of offence? Edited October 3, 2023 by elvis15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Could we use another NHL RD yeah absolutely. Not sure the waiver wire is much better than what we have but Bear is. May be worth picking up someone and having a look until Bear is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, elvis15 said: Season standings from last year until November. I don't know enough about B-D to say if his other attributes overcome his not that impressive 2 assists in 32 NHL games. He's not small at least and is supposed to be good defensively, but is that side of his game developed enough to overcome the lack of offence? The most important attribute of a blueliner is the ability to play defence. Any offensive production is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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