[Waivers] October 2, 2023

[D-Money]

46 minutes ago, elvis15 said:

Season standings from last year until November.

 

I don't know enough about B-D to say if his other attributes overcome his not that impressive 2 assists in 32 NHL games. He's not small at least and is supposed to be good defensively, but is that side of his game developed enough to overcome the lack of offence?

To be fair, we had the same questions about Jalen Chatfield, and he ended up being a fairly reliable guy on a contender.

 

The flip side is Miromanov, who is an offensive dynamo, but not reliable enough defensively to earn a regular roster spot so far.

[elvis15]

7 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

The most important attribute of a blueliner is the ability to play defence.  Any offensive production is a bonus.

That's the simple way of putting it, sure. But is B-D actually good enough at defence to warrant sticking with an NHL team? Like not just projects good, but is mostly there already and has more upside still?

 

His offence is no bonus at all at this point.

[King Heffy]

1 minute ago, elvis15 said:

That's the simple way of putting it, sure. But is B-D actually good enough at defence to warrant sticking with an NHL team? Like not just projects good, but is mostly there already and has more upside still?

 

His offence is no bonus at all at this point.

That's a quality bottom pairing guy who won't hurt you.  

[Wheres Wellwood]

51 minutes ago, RWJC said:

From an article this morning by Drance in the Athletic:

 

Waiver targets

 

The Canucks need another right-handed defender, but unfortunately (and obviously), NHL teams are loathe to waive players matching that description.

 

Between now and the roster deadline, there could still be a few intriguing names that surface on the wire and it’ll be interesting to see if the Canucks put in a claim to bolster their depth. One thing to note here is that Vancouver’s poor performance last season is an edge in this particular marketplace. As a result of its finish last season, Vancouver owns the 11th-highest waiver priority through Nov. 1.

 

One of those intriguing names that could hit the wire is Ottawa Senators defender Jacob Bernard-Docker, who will be waived by the Senators on Tuesday, the club announced. Still just 23 years old, Bernard-Docker is certainly interesting because of his age and skating ability, but there should be real questions about his ability to hold up in more than a third-pair role.

 

The fit seems particularly problematic if he’s asked to play with Hughes. We know Hughes can carry a pair, of course, but there’s still a baseline level of puck skill required to effectively complement him.

 

Chris Tanev, Jordie Benn and Luke Schenn might not be dynamic puck carriers, but they share the common trait of being passable — or even deceptively good — at passing the puck. That’s what permitted them to effectively recycle pucks over to Hughes without wasting possessions.

 

Tucker Poolman is an example of a player who didn’t hit that baseline level of puck skill. It’s why he never really fit on Hughes’ right side despite being a great skater and having solid defensive instincts. I’d suggest Bernard-Docker profiles closer to a Poolman type, without the size, than a Schenn type.

 

Looking over the numbers game that various teams are dealing with around the league, there aren’t many who fit the bill in terms of right-side defenders who could be waived. Here are some names that stand out at a glance.

 

1. Dylan Coghlan from Duncan, B.C. seems like he’ll be in tough to break camp with the Carolina Hurricanes.

2. Daniil Miromanov, 26, of the Vegas Golden Knights is interesting as a late-blooming 6-foot-4 righty with a decent scoring profile. Yes, he is a Dan Milstein client.

3. Grant Hutton is big, right-handed, can defend and will likely get lost in the shuffle on Long Island.

 

All of these players are better suited as third-pair defenders or outright depth guys. Even if Hughes’ partner is used situationally and averages third-pair minutes in games, trying to fill a premium spot in the lineup at this juncture is extremely difficult to do effectively on the waiver wire.

 

https://theathletic.com/4924637/2023/10/03/vancouver-canucks-preseason-elias-pettersson/?amp=1

 

It's so annoying how JBD is "Still just 23..." while Jett Woo is already 23, what a bust.

 

Yes, JBD has played NHL games but their age is their age. 

[Snoop Hogg]

On 10/2/2023 at 11:57 AM, Devron said:

More reasons than that to not eat subway. 

Jared Fogel says hi.

[PhillipBlunt]

3 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said:

Jared Fogel says hi.