DeNiro Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Are the Canucks at least streaming the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Odd. said: It’s hilarious that some people think just because a player was force fed top 4 minutes due to lack of quality that they’re suddenly minute munching top 4 defenseman Tyler Myers Stats, Profile, Bio, Analysis and More | Vancouver Canucks | Sports Forecaster According to these guys, Myers long range potential is a "Massive minute-devouring defenseman" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 51 minutes ago, -AJ- said: So who are the best guys left? Hronek and Boeser I guess? Presumably DeSmith in net. I'm guessing Hronek pairs with Soucy on the top pairing and we have Myers on the 2nd pairing and the rest of the guys battling for D spots playing on D. Will be interesting to see if this ragtag can be better than the last one, but they should be with more NHL calibre players and against a Seattle team not icing their full roster. EDIT: Forgot about Kuzmenko. First line of Boeser and Kuzmenko...with Suter I guess? Lacking offensive power at centre without Miller and Petey. I wonder if Hoglander gets to play with Boeser or Kuzy or if he's supposed to anchor his own line. Beauvillier probably fills out the last top 6 winger spot, but we're so weak at a C this game I wonder if we try something like Joshua at C. Studnicka will probably get the 2C chance tonight I'm guessing. My guess for the top two lines are: Kuzmenko - Suter - Boeser Hoglander - Studnicka - Beauvillier Only caveat here is that Hoglander and Beauvillier are both LW as far as I can tell, so not sure if they'd play RW for a game. Soucy - Hronek ??? - Myers DeSmith Miller doesn't have Deb permission to play again?????Our season going down the drain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Are the Canucks at least streaming the game? Yes on their website 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Odd. said: He’s clearly only in the line up because 1. Nobody wants him despite management having tried to move him over the years. 2. Because we literally have no one who can play on the right side besides Hronek who is at least somewhat of NHL calibre. McWard unfortunately has to play above what he can manage. Juulsen can’t process the game or move at an NHL pace. I’m 100% sure there will be a trade or a waiver wire pick up to address our right D situation. The Myers apologists eerily remind of the Benning bros and how they would go to extreme lengths. Myers is a wonderful human being, but he’s not suited for any role besides being a 3rd pair 15-17 minute defenseman with no PK time. I agree mostly. I just want to add that the Canucks neglect of RD has only exacerbated the problem. Myers in 15-17 min on the third line and even a little PK time might be almost decent if surrounded by competent defence personnel. We just haven't seen it. Having said that, I too long for the day we don't have to worry about watching him make horrible play after horrible play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Yes on their website On their YouTube channel as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Looks like some AHL boys are gonna play tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, Odd. said: It’s hilarious that some people think just because a player was force fed top 4 minutes due to lack of quality that they’re suddenly minute munching top 4 defenseman But it's also not wise to mortgage your future when the cupboard is bare to find stop gap solutions as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 There may be several reasons for recalling the just-cleared-waivers guys. They may have irons in the fire v/v trades and want to showcase to other GMS, AGMs, and scouts, e.g. They still may keep some of these guys up, even to just keep the fires hot under other players asses. Also, does it mean anything that Garland is in the hot tub while Beauvillier is playing tonight? ***************************************************************************************** Cheers everyone! Great to have a GDT and great to have a Canuck game tonight. But especially, is it not GREAT to have THIS FORUM?!? BIG UPS TO THE NEW FORUM CREATORS ET AL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, The Duke said: For sure - and he’ll likely be top 4 in minutes this year yet again. But I’m sure multiple NHL head coaches are actually idiots and Myers is replacement level trash. Yet at the same time I don't think there are more than 2 or 3 teams that would take him for free, if that. We're only playing him because we are forced to through bad cap management. If we had $6 mil or even a portion of that to spend elsewhere I'am sure we would. Myers is more in the $2.5 - $4 mil range on a short term deal to a team that wants that type of player. Personally I think most coaches in the NHL would pass on him as a starter. I guess we'll see next year by what type of deal he gets. It will be interesting to see him play this year in a more limited role. Maybe he will be solid. Let's hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, AatuD2 said: Bottom 5? Stop it, I wanted us to finish bottom 5 so bad each of last two years. 15th and 11th worst Goals against 25th , penalty kill last. keep telling yourself myers is "minute cruncher" on a good team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, Dom said: Looks like some AHL boys are gonna play tonight. Slow start again.When will we learn? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Conscience said: Goals against 25th , penalty kill last. keep telling yourself myers is "minute cruncher" on a good team Who would you want playing 20 minutes a game? Myers? Juulsen? McWard? Is he a great defenceman? No. Is he overpaid. Yes. Do we have the personnel to replace his minutes? Again No. Could we try and keep things simple for Myers, and keep his minutes down and try to even the load? Yeah. I do not want to see us losing a first round pick to get a replacement, only to be stuck with the same situation 1-2 years down the road. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, AatuD2 said: It really is a short term strategy. We all need to realize that we need one more year of patience. I was happy that we had a conservative summer in just adding some small and short cap commitments. Trying to solve the Quinn Hughes' partner situation this summer would've been a faux-pas IMO. We have lots of money getting freed up next summer for Petey and Hronek extensions, and also for an upgrade on Myers at RHD. I've been saying for years we will never truly be able to turn the corner until that awful Myers contract is over. It's still true. Only one more year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Another pointless preseason game. Let's not start off our season with our feet going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: On their YouTube channel as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Who would you want playing 20 minutes a game? Myers? Juulsen? McWard? Is he a great defenceman? No. Is he overpaid. Yes. Do we have the personnel to replace his minutes? Again No. Could we try and keep things simple for Myers, and keep his minutes down and try to even the load? Yeah. I do not want to see us losing a first round pick to get a replacement, only to be stuck with the same situation 1-2 years down the road. Hughes hronek cole saucy How about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Just now, Conscience said: Hughes hronek cole saucy How about them? Who's the other pairing? Hronek I'm not so worried about minutes if he's healthy. Who is the other two playing RHD, is what I'm worried about. And after this season, then we can look at completely replacing Myers. But as a third RHD, Myers with the correct left side partner with 12-15 minutes and simplifying his game should not be so bad. At least until reinforcements are ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: I doubt it's on X. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannydog Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Just got in , and what!! Why are we icing Abby’s team once again? Or are we hoping for another slow start? Kinda confused as all other teams are working their 23\24 completed rosters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, dannydog said: Just got in , and what!! Why are we icing Abby’s team once again? Or are we hoping for another slow start? Kinda confused as all other teams are working their 23\24 completed rosters. Seattle is missing tons of stars, so I figure we're matching. WIll probably make most final cuts after this game I'm betting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Interesting debate on Myers. For those defending him, do you think he is a net positive player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannydog Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Seattle is missing tons of stars, so I figure we're matching. WIll probably make most final cuts after this game I'm betting. Ahh ok , o definitely wouldn’t mind seeing Abby crush the firebirds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Who would you want playing 20 minutes a game? Myers? Juulsen? McWard? Is he a great defenceman? No. Is he overpaid. Yes. Do we have the personnel to replace his minutes? Again No. Could we try and keep things simple for Myers, and keep his minutes down and try to even the load? Yeah. I do not want to see us losing a first round pick to get a replacement, only to be stuck with the same situation 1-2 years down the road. I'd rather give McWard the minutes myself but realistically Hronek can play the 22 he played last year but probably even more as our best RD. 22-24 minutes. McWard 17-18, Myers 17, Soucy+Cole 3-5 minutes PK or 20 overall if one plays with Hughes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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