King Heffy Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Dumb Nuck said: That's a good thing, more goons make the NHL, bring back the 70s. The goons aren't coming back, you'll just see more trash like Dries, Megna, Petan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Nuck Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, King Heffy said: The goons aren't coming back, you'll just see more trash like Dries, Megna, Petan. One can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Dumb Nuck said: One can dream. Trust me, I'd much prefer the goons too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 18 minutes ago, Dumb Nuck said: That's a good thing, more goons make the NHL, bring back the 70s. I never looked at it that way. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 https://www.11alive.com/article/sports/hockey/forsyth-county-officials-visit-nhl-potential-hockey-return-the-gathering/85-5cd55ede-9187-47bf-87dd-2a2c956d7d63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 The private funding for the project is approved and can move forward. Any public funding is contingent on point 2. "If the NHL approves a team to return to Georgia, Forsyth County would offer $350 million toward the arena and an additional $40 million toward a single-arena parking deck, according to details in the new vote passed Wednesday." "Forsyth County officials visited the NHL headquarters in New York, where they toured UBS Arena -- an arena constructed in 2021 that is home to the New York Islanders." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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6of1_halfdozenofother Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Rip The Mesh said: On 1/31/2024 at 2:30 PM, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Meanwhile, somewhere in Ontario, Jim Balsillie is listening intently to this news coming out of Atlanta... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 C'mon Buttman, tell 'em you'll endorse Atlanta's bid too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted February 2 Popular Post Share Posted February 2 I think time is finally running out 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coconuts Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) Interesting, a couple new locations involved Edited February 2 by Coconuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I think time is finally running out When a fledgling PWHL is playing to sellout crowds or nearly sellout crowds, and their fans are eating this brand of hockey up, you have to wonder is Bettman really aware of what's going on? The Mullet Arena is past it's due date. Phoenix is past it's due date, let's move along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 13 minutes ago, Johngould21 said: When a fledgling PWHL is playing to sellout crowds or nearly sellout crowds, and their fans are eating this brand of hockey up, you have to wonder is Bettman really aware of what's going on? The Mullet Arena is past it's due date. Phoenix is past it's due date, let's move along. I think they'll end up elsewhere, the NHL may have to pressure ownership to play ball sooner than later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I think they'll end up elsewhere, the NHL may have to pressure ownership to play ball sooner than later I've agreed with this for 30 years. They haven't ever had stable ownership, an NHL arena, a fanbase, and deep enough pockets to sustain a franchise. Sooner can't come soon enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Coconuts said: Interesting, a couple new locations involved There's no way the NHL would entertain Omaha. Less population than Winnipeg but without the rabid hockey culture and just as middle of nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I wonder if the NHLPA can force a sale of a franchise? Seems pretty clear they're very unhappy with the Coyotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footsteps Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Why not: Kansas City Coyotes. Edited February 3 by footsteps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 10/4/2023 at 5:17 PM, Warhippy said: Another team in Toronto and one in Quebec would mean an immediate and sustained revenue boost for the league that would cushion the suck of two potential teams in markets like Atlanta and Arizona. Problem is...it probably wouldn't add that much. The CBC and SportsNet contracts would be re-written to accommodate the 2 additional markets, but the net gain from those 2 re-writes would be negligible. Folks in PQ and TO are probably already subscribers watching the Habs and Leafs. There would be gate revenue but that is the smaller portion of the financial pie. Expansion to brand new markets (ie/ Houston, SLC, Atlanta, Portland etc) would truly bring in a ton of new subscribers and subsequently increase the value of the TV contracts for NBC etc. The real money is in non-traditional markets as the burden of failure rests on the owners' shoulders (the entire NHL collectively) but the net positive result would windfall and benefit both local and league-wide franchise structure (to the tune of 52.5% I believe)...ie/ the risk is worth the reward. The real problem is the watering down of the top end talent. It would re-define what it means to be a Top line F, Top 6 F and a Top2 D. And I think the toughest position would be G...there's about 10-14 really good steady elite goalies in the league. To water that down further would mean backups would now be starters...and scoring would go WAY up. We just might see a lot more 10 goal games (ask SJS...they know of which I speak). Quality goaltending would be difficult to find for 36 teams...it's hard to find for half the league now as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Canuck Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 17 minutes ago, ABNuck said: Problem is...it probably wouldn't add that much. The CBC and SportsNet contracts would be re-written to accommodate the 2 additional markets, but the net gain from those 2 re-writes would be negligible. Folks in PQ and TO are probably already subscribers watching the Habs and Leafs. There would be gate revenue but that is the smaller portion of the financial pie. Expansion to brand new markets (ie/ Houston, SLC, Atlanta, Portland etc) would truly bring in a ton of new subscribers and subsequently increase the value of the TV contracts for NBC etc. The real money is in non-traditional markets as the burden of failure rests on the owners' shoulders (the entire NHL collectively) but the net positive result would windfall and benefit both local and league-wide franchise structure (to the tune of 52.5% I believe)...ie/ the risk is worth the reward. The real problem is the watering down of the top end talent. It would re-define what it means to be a Top line F, Top 6 F and a Top2 D. And I think the toughest position would be G...there's about 10-14 really good steady elite goalies in the league. To water that down further would mean backups would now be starters...and scoring would go WAY up. We just might see a lot more 10 goal games (ask SJS...they know of which I speak). Quality goaltending would be difficult to find for 36 teams...it's hard to find for half the league now as it is. Totally agree re: watering down talent. Although, over the years we are seeing more / better / improved talent from around the world. I guess it’s whether all that talent can catch up / sustain the extra teams if / when added??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 The reason there's parity isn't the talent pool. It's the points structure. A lot of teams take the games to OT and get a point. You can get an 82 point team and never actually win a game. There is basically 16 good teams, 4-8 meh teams. And 8 God awful teams. The way the draft is with the lottery doesn't help the truly bad teams get better. It rewards luck. The funny part is teams that are bad now tend to stay bad. The NFL doesn't have a draft lottery. And if you have a good GM and organization the draft helps you get better. If you have lousy coaching, scouts, and GM all the #1 picks will not help you get better. And I'm ok with that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cripplereh Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 To me it seems Quebec has been asking for the longest out of the group. Would make sense to add two teams. Might have to restructure the teams north versus south to make it work better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 13 minutes ago, cripplereh said: To me it seems Quebec has been asking for the longest out of the group. Would make sense to add two teams. Might have to restructure the teams north versus south to make it work better. It'll almost certainly be more than two, at least long term Atlanta, Houston, and maybe not Utah seem inevitable Maybe Kansas, maybe Quebec Maybe all of them if someone relocates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Well I don't mind that at all. Just think then 80 game season, 4 preseason, and 7th and 8th teams have a sudden death game against 9th and 10th to have more teams in playoffs.Or best of three so more money for owners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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