elvis15 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I wanted Sergachev but was happy with Juolevi at the time as a second option. Shame he never figured it out as he is a piece we needed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Was hoping for Sergachev or Tkachuk. Sad this is how it ended for Juolevi in the NHL. It's picks like him and Virtanen that have stunted our ability to re-enter the playoff ring. Then you factor in our inability to develop anyone outside the 1st and 2nd round. This franchise really has had a depressing 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Man....people need to go back and look at 2008 through 2018 and see what happened to all those top 10 picks. A significant number of them didn't do anything or never lived up to their draft status. If we drafted players in the top 10 that never became more than 3rd or 4th line players or 5-6 defencemen this fan base would be screaming just as loudly Bogosian 3rd? Filatov 6th OA? L Schenn 5th? Scott Glennie 8th Jared Cowen 9th Gudbranson 3rd Connolly 6th Burmistrov 8th MacIlrath 10th Larsson 4th Yakupov 1 Murray 2 Galchenyuk 3 Reinhardt 4 Pouliot 8 Koekkoek 10 (^^^ That's all 2012) Drouin 3rd Jones 4th Dal Colle 5th Virtanen 6th Fleury 7th Ritchie 10th Puljujarvi 4 Juolevi 5 Nylander 8 Patrick 2 Glass 6 Andersson 7 Middlestadt 8 Hayton 5 Zadina 6 Kravstov 9 Like....these are all essentially busts based on their draft positions vs the careers they've had up until this point. We flamed out on 2 in hort order and that sucks but when you look at that decade and who was drafting where and for how long it could have been so much worse. All that aside, good luck OJ. Hope you figure it out over there. It’s true. We aren’t special. Everyone has bombs in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Don Brodka Jr said: "With The 5th selection in the NHL draft Vancouver selects from The London Knights Matthew Tkachuk" There.. I fixed it for Jimbo! @Vintage Canuck literally said this moments before the "off the board" pick was made. We all thought it was going to be Tkachuk. Edit. I went to look for it, but it's not there. However, there are plenty of others that thought for sure we wouldn't be dumb enough to NOT draft Tkachuk. https://forum.canucks.com/topic/377682-gdt-2016-nhl-entry-draft/page/30/ Edited October 5, 2023 by gizmo2337 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, Devron said: It’s true. We aren’t special. Everyone has bombs in the draft Most rebuilding teams build up picks instead of trading them away as it is a numbers game. We can't afford draft day misses because we trade away first and second rounders at an alarming rate when we are bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson JH Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Well, I was right! I knew he is going back to Europe after that PTO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Most rebuilding teams build up picks instead of trading them away as it is a numbers game. We can't afford draft day misses because we trade away first and second rounders at an alarming rate when we are bad. We weren’t really ever a rebuilding team. Maybe a year or 2 of rebuild mode. But outside that it was always about playoffs which was basically impossible. That was the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 let's not dwell on the past, good luck to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, Devron said: We weren’t really ever a rebuilding team. Maybe a year or 2 of rebuild mode. But outside that it was always about playoffs which was basically impossible. That was the problem Not bad enough to win the lottery, poor lottery luck, but also not good enough to make the playoffs Has been a lousy place to be Hughes and Pettersson turned out well but our trading high picks, sliding at the lottery, and winning stretches towards the end of lost seasons haven't helped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlockerHigh Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Alflives said: He will do much better in a Euro league. Slower game. Less contact. Bigger ice. His lack of processing, skating, and compete will not be so prevalent there. Honestly, I wasn't upset we passed on Tkachuk in that draft, I was more confused as to why we didn't select Sergachev or Chychrun. All 3 players played in the OHL, they all had very similar point totals, but the latter 2 were both bigger, better skaters, more physical. When Benning selected him he even said he needs to get bigger and stronger, so why not take an equivalent bigger / stronger player, all else being equal or better??? Never understood the decision to take a slighter, less physical, weaker skater on D....ignoring Tkachuk...was just a bad selection over the alternatives in and around the same ranking (and that excludes McAvoy). Yes we also passed on McAvoy...A big RD who could skate lol....Well done Benning Edited October 5, 2023 by BlockerHigh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Don Brodka Jr said: "With The 5th selection in the NHL draft Vancouver selects from The London Knights Matthew Tkachuk" There.. I fixed it for Jimbo! Who was traded to the Florida Panthers July 25, 2022 Canuck fans remain 'up in arms' with the ugly return for Tkachuk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: The problem is the Canucks can't afford misses especially on it's first round picks. Neither can they afford to give up on players too soon. McCann would look great in our top 6 now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: Neither can they afford to give up on players too soon. McCann would look great in our top 6 now. It was less a case of giving up on him but rather Jim Benning got blinded by Gudbranson's play which largely was a result of Campbell carrying his fat ass in Florida (to the point he tossed in a high 2nd round pick because drafting legends don't need picks ). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: It was less a case of giving up on him but rather Jim Benning got blinded by Gudbranson's play which largely was a result of Campbell carrying his fat ass in Florida (to the point he tossed in a high 2nd round pick because drafting legends don't need picks ). They actually did give up on him. Supposedly he was a bad influence on Virtanen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Just now, Snoop Hogg said: They actually did give up on him. Supposedly he was a bad influence on Virtanen. According to the Bartman's mom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Wait...is this..oh nevermind.. I still remember all the people on CDC that told me how dumb I was and needed to realize we had just drafted a number one defenseman. I'm not even happy to be right. In fact I wish they had of been right lol Edited October 5, 2023 by Ryan Strome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forzatikare Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Im happy with this! Its a one-month contract as of now and with 3 of our top 4 Dmen injured and 6+ weeks out (broken fingers etc) this is really needed. Played on 5 Dmen today and 2 of them was from Juniors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Rekker said: Ugg. This pick really set the franchise back. Gotta let it go. Well in all fairness…. The picks from 2005-2012 set the franchise back. 2005 - Bourdon RIP 2006 - Grabner 2007 - White 2008 - Hodgson 2009 - Schroeder 2010 - None 2011 - Jensen 2012 - Gaunce OJ just amplified the real issue at hand. Any pick that didnt work out was so much more devastating because of the lack of NHL quality talent in our system. Had we landed some talent between those years, OJ wouldnt have been as devastating. This is currently where Boston and Pittsburgh are headed, just off the top of my head. No real talent in their system, aged out and declining core. Its going to be a long miserable road ahead for them in a few years…. Holding onto hope the vets will get the job done forever… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 31 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: They actually did give up on him. Supposedly he was a bad influence on Virtanen. Holy double whammy Batman! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Holy double whammy Batman! Well, at least one of them grew up, though we hitched ourselves to the wrong wagon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Rubik said: let's not dwell on the past, good luck to him I'll give you Raymond, Ballard, and a 1st for me to continue dwelling on the past. This entire forum is populated by people who refused to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLer Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 One final salute for our starfish legend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-19 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, AnthonyG said: Well in all fairness…. The picks from 2005-2012 set the franchise back. 2005 - Bourdon RIP 2006 - Grabner 2007 - White 2008 - Hodgson 2009 - Schroeder 2010 - None 2011 - Jensen 2012 - Gaunce OJ just amplified the real issue at hand. Any pick that didnt work out was so much more devastating because of the lack of NHL quality talent in our system. Had we landed some talent between those years, OJ wouldnt have been as devastating. This is currently where Boston and Pittsburgh are headed, just off the top of my head. No real talent in their system, aged out and declining core. Its going to be a long miserable road ahead for them in a few years…. Holding onto hope the vets will get the job done forever… .....that is depressing. Not a single hit with first rounders in an 8 year period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSAcanuck Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Integra250 said: Pettersson, Hughes, Demko...? Petterssen and Hughes were absolute no brainer sat their draft position. Demko came out of Brackett’s area of scouting expertise iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, NHLer said: One final salute for our starfish legend. Is that related to the snow angels of the chaos giraffe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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