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1 minute ago, Canuck Surfer said:

 

Terrible, terrible scenes and news coming out of Al-Shifa. This raid much worse than the first.

 

Looks like Hamas recently sniped the leader of the elite Israeli unit behind the November al-Shifa raid.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

So basically there is no proof.  That’s what I figured.  As for the IDF raiding hospitals, are you referring to the same hospitals that Hamas use as terror bases?  You know, where they keep their bombs and ammunitions and use civilians as human shields? 

 

Re hospital raids: You just believe everything the IDF tells you eh?

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5 hours ago, Super19 said:

 

Re hospital raids: You just believe everything the IDF tells you eh?


Everyone and their dogs know that Hamas headquarters is underneath the Al Shifa hospital. It’s not even a secret anymore.  But you keep shilling for Hamas regardless.

 

You also forgot to post the rebuttal tweet to the one you posted. It explains things more logically…

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:


Everyone and their dogs know that Hamas headquarters is underneath the Al Shifa hospital. It’s not even a secret anymore.  But you keep shilling for Hamas regardless.

 

You also forgot to post the rebuttal tweet to the one you posted. It explains things more logically…

 

 

Just Zionist shills believe what the IDF say when there's no evidence to back up what the IDF says. There's not a single source or dog outside of the IDF that can point to evidence proving these IDF claims. Because its not based in reality. Fact is, IDF lies. They've banned and killed journalists for a reason.

 

Guy in your tweet is really trying his best to explain how the IDF is the most moral army in the world. Making up imaginary scenarios in his head to make the video seem less damning. He's done better explaining than Israel actually! (official Israeli twitter accounts said the unarmed men actually had a bomb but that got quickly debunked). Guy in your tweet is just talking out of his ass though. 

 

As much of an echo chamber this thread is for whatever reason, people across the world aren't buying it.

 

 

They are crumbling:

 

AXIOS: Blinken unloads on Bibi: "You need a coherent plan" or face disaster in Gaza

 

Secretary of State Blinken warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet in a meeting on Friday that Israel's security and its place in the world are in peril, and "you might not realize it until it's too late," a source familiar with the meeting told Axios.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Super19 said:

Contrary to most sentiments ITT, the pressure is mounting against this Zionist Israeli regime because of how criminal it is. Israel is commiting the worst of crimes. Israel is an apartheid state, guilty of plausible genocide in an ongoing case. Responsible for a catastrophic famine, all due to Israel's man made evil intentions. Israel has killed tens of thousands of women and children, at an unprecedented rate in modern warfare. The IDF are not the most moral army in the world, they are a bunch of scumbags.

This Zionist Israeli regime does not want to live in peace with their Palestinian brothers and sisters, they want to eradicate Palestine and have their terrorists take over Gaza.

 

 

 

 

 

Why is there a secondary explosion if these people are just innocent "youths"? You can clearly see a second explosion at the 1:04 mark. The explosion is smaller and produces a distinctly darker shade of smoke. You cannot see a second missile coming in. That means the four people, who all appear to be fighting age males not distinctly youths in any way, are carrying an armament that set off that secondary explosion. If anything, this video shows a pinpoint strike on a valid military target, with no civilian casualties or damage to civilian infrastructure. 

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48 minutes ago, Taxi said:

 

Why is there a secondary explosion if these people are just innocent "youths"? You can clearly see a second explosion at the 1:04 mark. The explosion is smaller and produces a distinctly darker shade of smoke. You cannot see a second missile coming in. That means the four people, who all appear to be fighting age males not distinctly youths in any way, are carrying an armament that set off that secondary explosion. If anything, this video shows a pinpoint strike on a valid military target, with no civilian casualties or damage to civilian infrastructure. 

The secondary explosion was clearly from another projectile. Look at the top left of the screen, it comes down after the first explosion.

 

The IDF have been killing civillians for a long time now. There are thousands of other examples of the IDF targetting civillians and civilian infrastructure. 

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53 minutes ago, Super19 said:

The secondary explosion was clearly from another projectile. Look at the top left of the screen, it comes down after the first explosion.

 

The IDF have been killing civillians for a long time now. There are thousands of other examples of the IDF targetting civillians and civilian infrastructure. 

Firstly, there's no way you can possibly conclusively see a projectile at these speeds. Secondly, there's no way to confirm who these people are, their ages, or what their involvement is in the conflict from this video. Yet, you've conclusively come to the conclusion that these are innocent civilian youth.

 

Edit: Please provide the frame with the "clear" second projectile in it.

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6 hours ago, Taxi said:

 

Why is there a secondary explosion if these people are just innocent "youths"? You can clearly see a second explosion at the 1:04 mark. The explosion is smaller and produces a distinctly darker shade of smoke. You cannot see a second missile coming in. That means the four people, who all appear to be fighting age males not distinctly youths in any way, are carrying an armament that set off that secondary explosion. If anything, this video shows a pinpoint strike on a valid military target, with no civilian casualties or damage to civilian infrastructure. 

I really don't want to participate in this channel anymore, because folks on all sides are arguing over things they don't know or understand.  However, as I happened to stop by today to check in, and noticed this conversation: I wanted to definitively point out that there is a second missile that causes the second explosion. It is at roughly 1:04, but if you pause the video at 1 minute and make it full screen, then pull the motion slowly forward with your mouse a few time over and over from 1m to 1:05 you will see both missiles come in. That doesn't make these fighting age males 'innocent youth' but it does clearly show a second missile. Don't bother replying, i am not staying. Just checking in once a week or so to catch up and make sure no one is calling people bad names.

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8 minutes ago, Optimist Prime said:

I really don't want to participate in this channel anymore, because folks on all sides are arguing over things they don't know or understand.  However, as I happened to stop by today to check in, and noticed this conversation: I wanted to definitively point out that there is a second missile that causes the second explosion. It is at roughly 1:04, but if you pause the video at 1 minute and make it full screen, then pull the motion slowly forward with your mouse a few time over and over from 1m to 1:05 you will see both missiles come in. That doesn't make these fighting age males 'innocent youth' but it does clearly show a second missile. Don't bother replying, i am not staying. Just checking in once a week or so to catch up and make sure no one is calling people bad names.

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Fair enough. That's what I was asking for. 

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3 hours ago, Super19 said:

Hamas is not ISIS. 

 

 

Lol. Funny how Hamas is silent on the tens of thousands of attacks Russia has made on Ukrainian civilians. 

 

They have no principles, only standing up for the people who pay their bills.

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18 hours ago, Super19 said:

The IDF have been killing civilians for a long time now.

I'm not sure you have been following wars for long?

 

The civilian casualty rate is consistent with most wars.  All a tragedy. Consistent regardless. 

 

This one particularly tragic because there are less places to flee physically; people are cornered. Also in part by the Hamas amongst them. Under them, behind them...

 

Hamas still have hostages. Still say they will do it again. Are bargaining for jailed terrorists! Not the lives of ''their'' civilians?    

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12 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

I'm not sure you have been following wars for long?

 

The civilian casualty rate is consistent with most wars.  All a tragedy. Consistent regardless. 

 

This one particularly tragic because there are less places to flee physically; people are cornered. Also in part by the Hamas amongst them. Under them, behind them...

 

Hamas still have hostages. Still say they will do it again. Are bargaining for jailed terrorists! Not the lives of ''their'' civilians?    

Who has the power to get the hostages back within 5 minutes? Nentanyahu does. Biden to an extent does too.

 

Palestinians have and are being taken prisoner by Israel. Tortured. Executed. Thousands of them over the years. Kids, fathers, women, being taken from their homes. Now doctors being taken from hospitals.

 

Hamas returns the hostages if Nentanyahu returns the Palestinians. Free Palestine and there is no resistance movement against Israel. You're quick to point out that Hamas said they will do it again and again, but failed to point out that Hamas resistance ends with a free Palestine. Israel is the occupying state commiting crimes against the Palestinians. Under international law, Israel, the occupying state, can't cry self defense, even against armed resistance from the people they occupy. If Palestine was a sovereign state, then Israel could, but if Palestine was a sovereign state there'd be no Hamas resistance. 

 

It's as simple as free Palestine. 

 

The only genocidal regime here is Bibis Zionist Israel. Who have lied and lied and lied, and want to get rid of Palestinians and Palestine. Zionists want the land, and they want to erase Palestine. 

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9 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

So Hamas condemns the terrorist act of another terrorist organization?  This is too funny...

 

9 hours ago, Taxi said:

Lol. Funny how Hamas is silent on the tens of thousands of attacks Russia has made on Ukrainian civilians. 

 

They have no principles, only standing up for the people who pay their bills.

Hamas in Palestine, Taliban in Afghanistan, Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah in Lebanon. Saudi, Qatar, Iran. All hate ISIS. 

 

US and the West claim ISIS to be hardline Islamist terrorists, among those from the list above, but the above list are all openly against ISIS.

 

Makes you really question who pays ISIS bills. They look like an ideal candidate to do dirty terrorist work as proxies for, I'll let you guess for who. 

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25 minutes ago, Super19 said:

 

Hamas in Palestine, Taliban in Afghanistan, Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah in Lebanon. Saudi, Qatar, Iran. All hate ISIS. 

 

US and the West claim ISIS to be hardline Islamist terrorists, among those from the list above, but the above list are all openly against ISIS.

 

Makes you really question who pays ISIS bills. They look like an ideal candidate to do dirty terrorist work as proxies for, I'll let you guess for who. 


So ISIS is bad but Hamas is good?  Is that what you are saying?  
 

You posted a tweet about Hamas condemning a terrorist attack by another terrorist organization. Then

you insinuated that the US is funding that terrorist group.  Then you said that Hamas is against that terrorist group that you are insinuating is being funded by the US. 
 

Sounds like you’ve made your position quite clear and it’s been obvious for many months now. 

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5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:


So ISIS is bad but Hamas is good?  Is that what you are saying?  
 

You posted a tweet about Hamas condemning a terrorist attack by another terrorist organization. Then

you insinuated that the US is funding that terrorist group.  Then you said that Hamas is against that terrorist group that you are insinuating is being funded by the US. 
 

Sounds like you’ve made your position quite clear and it’s been obvious for many months now. 

ISIS is a terrorist organization, Hamas is an armed resistance movement. Not all Islamist groups with guns are terrorists. 

 

I'm asking you who funds ISIS? You seem to know a lot where terrorists get their funding from.

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9 minutes ago, Super19 said:

ISIS is a terrorist organization, Hamas is an armed resistance movement. Not all Islamist groups with guns are terrorists. 

 

I'm asking you who funds ISIS? You seem to know a lot where terrorists get their funding from.


You will be reported to the proper authorities. Hamas is officially recognized as a terrorist organization by the government of Canada. Your statement is support to an officially recognized terrorist organization.

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16 minutes ago, RomanPer said:


You will be reported to the proper authorities. Hamas is officially recognized as a terrorist organization by the government of Canada. Your statement is support to an officially recognized terrorist organization.

 

Well, at least he's fully out in the open with it now.

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3 hours ago, Super19 said:

Who has the power to get the hostages back within 5 minutes? Nentanyahu does.

KOK

 

LOL

 

Hamas has Sinwar negotiating.  He's fleeing for his life.  Surrounded by hostages. Is making impossible demands because the moment he gives up them up, poof; dead!

 

The very instant Bibi lets him off the hook he steal more hostages. Poof; 650 extra terrorists per female hostage to help steal them...

 

You & your Palestinian victims are stuck with whom they select as leader.

 

Don't worry!

 

You will go to infinite paradise, wink wink, for your faith! 

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