Playoff Beered Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 To everyone claiming that Isreal are not following the rules of war, according to the UN Isreal could have bombed that hospital already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: Why is terrorist in "quotes"? I'm proud of Canada for making this stand, it needs to be made imo. Still wondering why Hamas doesn't surrender for the good of their people. Why does Netanyahu surrender , for the benefit of Israeli's / his people ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, moosehead said: Why does Netanyahu surrender , for the benefit of Israeli's / his people ? surrender Israel to Hamas? a terrorist group? because they would wipe out his entire country? Hamas knows it can't win this. Everyone on the planet knows. So its really up to Hamas how long this goes on for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said: To everyone claiming that Isreal are not following the rules of war, according to the UN Isreal could have bombed that hospital already... Maybe because Israel doesn't want to drop bombs on 10,000 women and children.... That could be perceived as a bit over the top .. don't you think ? 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: surrender Israel to Hamas? a terrorist group? because they would wipe out his entire country? Hamas knows it can't win this. Everyone on the planet knows. So its really up to Hamas how long this goes on for. Netanyahu knows Israel can not win this.... In the long run, you can not keep 2 million people locked in a cage.... denying them access to food, water, electricity and medicine.... Edited October 30, 2023 by moosehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Beered Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: Now I feel less bad about getting suckered by a couple tweets when this all started a few weeks ago. I've been bamboozled quite a few times too, always have to be on the lookout for BS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Why is terrorist in "quotes"? I'm proud of Canada for making this stand, it needs to be made imo. Still wondering why Hamas doesn't surrender for the good of their people. Unfortunately their people are just pawns. In order to "win", sacrificing pawns is part of their strategy apparently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/28/2023 at 5:54 PM, Ilunga said: The innocents are the real losers in every war/ conflict. I accidently came across this song last week from Badfinger and the words keep entering my head throughout the week There's no good revolution Just power changing hands There is no straight solution Except to understand So listen to my song of life You don't need a gun or a knife Successful conversation Will take you very far There is no real perfection There'll be no perfect man Just peace is our connection Forgiving all you can There's no good kind of killing Just power taking life It's all good blood that's spilling To make a bigger knife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, moosehead said: Maybe because Israel doesn't want to drop bombs on 10,000 women and children.... That could be perceived as a bit over the top .. don't you think ? Netanyahu knows Israel can not win this.... In the long run, you can not keep 2 million people locked in a cage.... denying them access to food, water, electricity and medicine.... but he can win it for the immediate term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Sabrefan1 said: Unfortunately their people are just pawns. In order to "win", sacrificing pawns is part of their strategy apparently. Same strategy as Israel actually. Israeli gov supports Hamas as terror attacks on Israeli's keep the Israel right wing politicians in power.... Dirty game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: Unfortunately their people are just pawns. In order to "win", sacrificing pawns is part of their strategy apparently. bingo. Higher Palestinian casualties just helps their sick view. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said: To everyone claiming that Isreal are not following the rules of war, according to the UN Isreal could have bombed that hospital already... I'm very surprised it's still standing. I thought that was going to be among the initial targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: bingo. Higher Palestinian casualties just helps their sick view. Higher Palestinian casualties helps Hamas Higher Israeli casualites helps Netanyahu and Likud party - helps their sick view. Dirty game they both play.... partners.... Edited October 30, 2023 by moosehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: It's partisans on the left that do the most freaking out. They believe Musk is an "evil righty". I can't stand radicals on either side. If you aren't in lockstep with every one of their beliefs, you must be one of the "others". Historically, societies do not end well when they become radicalized. That kind of radical thinking helped form both Nazi Germany (left) and National Fascist Italy (right). I'm one step to the left but no further. I am far from radical and have a dislike for the extremes of both right and left. I dislike Elon because I think he's dangerous. I'm very tempted, but I'm not even going to mention the implied association with Nazis and/or Fascists (though that's what prompted this response). Anyway, agree/disagree, love him or hate him, let's get back on topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Beered Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, moosehead said: Netanyahu knows Israel can not win this.... In the long run, you can not keep 2 million people locked in a cage.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Riddikulus said: I am not sure how you so spectacularly failed to understand my point when all I did was invert your logic. I am saying you haven't called out any of Israel's wrong actions, anyone reading this thread would see that you only call out Hamas' atrocities. You stated that anyone who referred to Israel's actions as "ethnic cleansing" or "apartheid" needed to do the same with Hamas' actions or they were an anti-Semite, wouldn't that make you an Islamophobic by the same logic? Perhaps you should re-read all my messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, moosehead said: Same strategy as Israel actually. Israeli gov supports Hamas as terror attacks on Israeli's keep the Israel right wing politicians in power.... Dirty game. I wish I could intelligently engage in a discussion about the current relationship, or lack thereof, between Israel's politicians and Hamas, but I stopped closely following this region and it's politics quite a number of years ago because it's the same thing over and over. Unless things change as a result of the current events, the same cycle will continue until after I die and I will go back to ignoring that part of the ME until I do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, moosehead said: Higher Palestinian casualties helps Hamas Higher Israeli casualites helps Netanyahu and Likud party - helps their sick view. Dirty game they both play.... partners.... I can't see Bibi surviving this politically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said: So much hate. I closed it after 10 seconds sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I can't see Bibi surviving this politically. Nothing like a great war for a politician to solidify their power..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, moosehead said: Higher Palestinian casualties helps Hamas Higher Israeli casualites helps Netanyahu and Likud party - helps their sick view. Dirty game they both play.... partners.... I disagree. There was never higher death toll of Israeli civilians than October 7th. Vast majority of Israelis now are not happy with Bibi and it’s highly unlikely his political career survives after this war is done. If it was indeed his plan (which i can’t fathom to believe), that would be a political suicide at the level of Putin’s “special military operation” in Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Beered Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, moosehead said: So much hate. I closed it after 10 seconds sorry. Yet you have regurgitated Hamas propaganda that Isreal is ethnically cleansing Palestinians several times. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, RomanPer said: I disagree. There was never higher death toll of Israeli civilians than October 7th. Vast majority of Israelis now are not happy with Bibi and it’s highly unlikely his political career survives after this war is done. If it was indeed his plan (which i can’t fathom to believe), that would be a political suicide at the level of Putin’s “special military operation” in Ukraine. Bibi supports Hamas as it reduces support for moderate Palestinian leaders....... keeps the status quo.. which favours Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 40 minutes ago, Rob Eh said: I hope they clear up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Beered Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Playoff Beered said: Yet you have regurgitated Hamas propaganda that Isreal is ethnically cleansing Palestinians several times. Great more hate videos... I did not even open this one you posted.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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