Alflives Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Optimist Prime said: I don't have any information at all, just some friends of mine who would be more planners and orderers than the guys taking the orders are over there at the moment. Recce maybe? shrug. What’s “Recce”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 33 minutes ago, Alflives said: What’s “Recce”? Recon, scoping things out, seeing what is the situation on the ground, that sort of thing, my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 40 minutes ago, Alflives said: What’s “Recce”? It's pure Canadian way of saying recon @Optimist Prime my son served at BCR under Sajjan, so I know the lingo a bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 20 hours ago, RomanPer said: Do you know which nation in the Middle East is the closest ally to the Kurds? Israel… Thanks for bringing this up. I admit I had no idea of the support within Isreal for the Kurds. It seems to come from across all sides of the political spectrum. Kurds , " the second Isreal " https://www.international.ucla.edu/israel/article/211984 I have a big spot in my heart for the Kurdish people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, RomanPer said: It's pure Canadian way of saying recon @Optimist Prime my son served at BCR under Sajjan, so I know the lingo a bit I believe it was the British that coined that term. Watched enough war movies to know what Primal meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 So the US is attacking Yemen because their naval blockade on Israel is officially meant to put pressure for a ceasefire in Gaza. Instead of supporting a ceasefire, the US is intervening and escalating the situation in the Red Sea, whilst simultaneously arming and supporting Israel's genocide in Gaza. Israel can blockade Gaza no problem though. What do you think will happen to a ship trying to get to Gaza, even if it was full of flowers? How is any of this fair and just? The people in Yemen have nothing, and nothing to lose as well. Yet they say they are fighting for justice for the people of Gaza against forces they believe are evil (US, Israel, Saudi). Sounds exactly what we are saying against them, just vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Super19 said: So the US is attacking Yemen because their naval blockade on Israel is officially meant to put pressure for a ceasefire in Gaza. Instead of supporting a ceasefire, the US is intervening and escalating the situation in the Red Sea, whilst simultaneously arming and supporting Israel's genocide in Gaza. Israel can blockade Gaza no problem though. What do you think will happen to a ship trying to get to Gaza, even if it was full of flowers? How is any of this fair and just? The people in Yemen have nothing, and nothing to lose as well. Yet they say they are fighting for justice for the people of Gaza against forces they believe are evil (US, Israel, Saudi). Sounds exactly what we are saying against them, just vice versa. So, free Yemen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 18 minutes ago, Bob Long said: So, free Yemen? The US already got the memo and is delivering freedom to Gaza and Yemen as we speak, you don't need to question it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, Super19 said: The US already got the memo and is delivering freedom to Gaza and Yemen as we speak, you don't need to question it. Is Gaza better off with Hamas dead or alive? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Is Gaza better off with Hamas dead or alive? Thanos snaps his fingers and all of Hamas drops dead this instance. What will Gazans have to look forward to in Gaza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 26 minutes ago, Super19 said: The US already got the memo and is delivering freedom to Gaza and Yemen as we speak, you don't need to question it. Now do Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Super19 said: Thanos snaps his fingers and all of Hamas drops dead this instance. What will Gazans have to look forward to in Gaza?a A chance at life not being pawns of Iran's leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Now do Iran. Iran, after backing and preparing Hamas the best they could, are sitting back and watching how far Hamas can fight against their 'evil' opposing forces. The surprise of Yemen is now on board as well. When called upon, the stronger Hezbollahs will enter full scale. And if it gets to it, and the proxies are not enough, Iran will enter and a regional conflict turns into a world war. Mind you, the Yemenis and Hamas are literally screaming "martyrdom or victory". They literally have nothing to lose and are evidently seeing this all through. Hezbollah in Lebabon have more to lose. Iran even more. And the nation's these countries would be fighting against have even more to lose. This Axis is saying they are fighting for freedom and justice as well. Go figure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 14 minutes ago, Bob Long said: A chance at life not being pawns of Iran's leadership. Soo Palestenian life pre Hamas? Hmm, well, it's better than being incessantly bombed at everyday for the past 3 months. Whose gonna help rebuild tho? Gazans are gonna need some great counselors as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Super19 said: Soo Palestenian life pre Hamas? Hmm, well, it's better than being incessantly bombed at everyday for the past 3 months. Whose gonna help rebuild tho? Gazans are gonna need some great counselors as well. Hamas may not have started this many years ago but they most certainly did this time around. They refuse to surrender and continue to vow the death and destruction of Israel. The complete genocide of Jews. How else can Israel respond but to beat Hamas to the punch and kill them first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Spur1 said: Hamas may not have started this many years ago but they most certainly did this time around. They refuse to surrender and continue to vow the death and destruction of Israel. The complete genocide of Jews. How else can Israel respond but to beat Hamas to the punch and kill them first. I've been reading Hamas statements for context in this war, but I'd like to see the source of those specific Hamas vows you mentioned including "the genocide of Jews". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_Nuck Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 23 minutes ago, Spur1 said: Hamas may not have started this many years ago but they most certainly did this time around. They refuse to surrender and continue to vow the death and destruction of Israel. The complete genocide of Jews. How else can Israel respond but to beat Hamas to the punch and kill them first. Justified Genocide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: Is Gaza better off with Hamas dead or alive? What's left of Gaza ? https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-bombs-destruction-death-toll-scope-419488c511f83c85baea22458472a796 " I'm just over 2 months, researchers say has wreaked more destruction than the razing of Syria's Aleppo between 2012 and 2016 Ukraine's Mariupol or, proportionally the Allied bombing of Germany in World War 2. It has killed more civilians than the US coalition did in its three year campaign against the Islamic state group " https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/08/the-numbers-that-reveal-the-extent-of-the-destruction-in-gaza#:~:text=Analysis of satellite data cited,of buildings have been destroyed. Data from conflict tracking group Airwars suggests that the US-led coalition against IS in Iraq carried out 15,000 strikes between 2014 and 2017. the Isreali military has carried out 22,000 in Gaza in less than 3 months " To give some context to the size of the area of Gaza where all these strikes are happening https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/11/13/if-gaza-was-in-your-city-how-much-would-be-destroyed Toronto is twice the size of Gaza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, Super19 said: How is any of this fair and just? Houthi attacking ships of international flag sailing a routine route, with legitimate papers? Remember; attacking. Not a Yemen coast guard ship detaining a ship for an inspection. Like a cop doing a pullover on the highway. A Houthi attack. Houthi are an illegitimate militant group that has grabbed control over the Western Part of Yemen. Not an elected govt with control over military. Certainly have not renegotiated accessible shipping routes. Imagine boating somewhere near the US border on Lake Ontario. Then an aboriginal gang, hell a redneck bastard that looks like Kid Rock with a bandana & a patch over his eye screams in outta nowhere. Starts plugging holes in your boat with a machine gun. Some black guy that looks like Ice Tea has a rocket launcher. Is this a real question? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Isreal is a democracy ? https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-deny-permit-for-anti-war-protest-left-wing-groups-vow-high-court-appeal/ Don't people have the right to protest in a free and just democracy ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, Super19 said: The people in Yemen Check, check, double check? Houthi's are the elected representatives of Yemen? Even Hamas was at least elected once 18 years ago. This is like calling the Cartel gangs that take over sections of the US border with Mexico the representatives of Mexicans? To smuggle people and drugs, contraband across the border. Cartels assassinate thousands in Mexico every year, add corruption up to top levels of govt. & are powerful enough to take on military. In a country like Yemen, or territory like Gaza a Cartel can easily sway the balance of power. This is where these militia groups start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Ilunga said: Isreal is a democracy ? https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-deny-permit-for-anti-war-protest-left-wing-groups-vow-high-court-appeal/ Don't people have the right to protest in a free and just democracy ? Only to a point much like the so called freedom convoy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Spur1 said: Only to a point much like the so called freedom convoy. It's ridiculous to compare the actions of " the freedom convoy " in your country, to people in Isreal who believe that Isreals response to the October the 7th attack is disproportionate. They have the right to express their views, if you believe in a free and just society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Houthi attacking ships of international flag sailing a routine route, with legitimate papers? Remember; attacking. Not a Yemen coast guard ship detaining a ship for an inspection. Like a cop doing a pullover on the highway. A Houthi attack. Houthi are an illegitimate militant group that has grabbed control over the Western Part of Yemen. Not an elected govt with control over military. Certainly have not renegotiated accessible shipping routes. Imagine boating somewhere near the US border on Lake Ontario. Then an aboriginal gang, hell a redneck bastard that looks like Kid Rock with a bandana & a patch over his eye screams in outta nowhere. Starts plugging holes in your boat with a machine gun. Some black guy that looks like Ice Tea has a rocket launcher. Is this a real question? Hey Brother, what up with the ICE T reference ? He is an enforcer of the law. Detective Seargant Odafin Tutuola is one cool dude. Edited January 13 by Ilunga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 22 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Houthi attacking ships of international flag sailing a routine route, with legitimate papers? Remember; attacking. Not a Yemen coast guard ship detaining a ship for an inspection. Like a cop doing a pullover on the highway. A Houthi attack. Houthi are an illegitimate militant group that has grabbed control over the Western Part of Yemen. Not an elected govt with control over military. Certainly have not renegotiated accessible shipping routes. Imagine boating somewhere near the US border on Lake Ontario. Then an aboriginal gang, hell a redneck bastard that looks like Kid Rock with a bandana & a patch over his eye screams in outta nowhere. Starts plugging holes in your boat with a machine gun. Some black guy that looks like Ice Tea has a rocket launcher. Is this a real question? Every ship in the Red Sea knows the warnings. Take the long way or say you have no business with Israel, and you're fine. Otherwise they are enforcing their naval blockade on Israel. It's in response to a genocide being committed. At the very least it's in response to hundreds of children being killed everyday and atrocities happening everyday directly from Israeli bombardment on Gaza. UN voting in favour of a ceasefire? US vetoed. South Africa taking its case for genocide to the ICJ? Solid step for exposure of Israels crimes on a grand scale, but won't amount to anything being done and I even question if they'll be able to win due to the snakes in the Israeli govt making it extremely difficult to prove their intent, as if their actions and explicit words aren't enough. It's just verbal gymnastics that's saving their asses right now from utter tarnish in the eyes of the ICJ. Yemen/Houthis doing something drastic that would have real consequences for Israel? US steps in and escalates the situation whilst the siege on Gaza continues. At every turn Gazans are being dehumanized and fcked over by those who claim to be just and moral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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