Elias Pettersson Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 BREAKING: These 3 developments just came up within minutes while I was hosting the space Got chills... 1. NBC, according to informed sources: Biden privately expressed concern that Netanyahu is trying to drag Washington into a broader conflict 2. The New York Times, citing an Israeli official: Israel's response to the Iranian attack will be coordinated with allies 3. NBC, according to a senior US administration official: The United States is now dealing with a possible direct war between two countries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 10 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: Sure and with Iran's proxy war and support against Israel I think their personnel are valid targets. But Israel blew up an embassy which is technically Iranian territory and so Iran had to do something. The question is now what will the response to an attack on ACTUAL Israeli soil result in. Israel now has to do something you would think. It isn't like them taking the stance of de-escalation will work with the nut jobs running Iran. Technically, it wasn’t an embassy, it was living quarters near the embassy. Embassy itself wasn’t touched. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, I.Am.Ironman said: The drones/missiles were largely intercepted. This did nothing but cost Israel money (air defense). Iran hasn't invaded, they sent a very defendable 'attack'. No jets, no bombers, just slow drones and some missiles. If Israel takes the next step tens of thousands, or more, will likely die. Israel can no doubt defend itself, especially with the UK and US navy in close proximity. If Iran takes another shot then Israel should and will respond. But until then cooler heads need to prevail for the greater good. The whole concept of “proportional response” is flawed. It’s designed to appease the aggressor instead of teaching them a lesson once and for all. If this concept was in place during WWII, we would still be fighting it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 6 minutes ago, RomanPer said: Technically, it wasn’t an embassy, it was living quarters near the embassy. Embassy itself wasn’t touched. Well thanks for the finer details. That is actually a fine line but does make a world of difference honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: Well thanks for the finer details. That is actually a fine line but does make a world of difference honestly. hes wrong it was part of the embassy specifically a "consular annex" distinction without a difference israel did it to provoke a response, now we have the response. fingers crossed it ends there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) ... Edited April 14 by NewbieCanuckFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 46 minutes ago, RomanPer said: The whole concept of “proportional response” is flawed. It’s designed to appease the aggressor instead of teaching them a lesson once and for all. If this concept was in place during WWII, we would still be fighting it. It's more about putting the ball in Iran's court. "you have a decision to make, if you continue down this road, you will regret it". If they ignore that warning, it's on them. It's better for Iran, Israel, and the rest of the world if this drone attack is where it ends. Do you not agree? Is the world, Iran, Israel better off if this conflict escalates or if it stops here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 7 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: It's more about putting the ball in Iran's court. "you have a decision to make, if you continue down this road, you will regret it". If they ignore that warning, it's on them. It's better for Iran, Israel, and the rest of the world if this drone attack is where it ends. Do you not agree? Is the world, Iran, Israel better off if this conflict escalates or if it stops here? Iran's government cannot be allowed to exist. Long-term, everyone is better off if the Israelis step up and exterminate the Iranian regime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RomanPer Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 19 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: It's more about putting the ball in Iran's court. "you have a decision to make, if you continue down this road, you will regret it". If they ignore that warning, it's on them. It's better for Iran, Israel, and the rest of the world if this drone attack is where it ends. Do you not agree? Is the world, Iran, Israel better off if this conflict escalates or if it stops here? It’s better for the world if current regimes in Iran and Russia and dealt with once and for all. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 32 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Iran's government cannot be allowed to exist. Long-term, everyone is better off if the Israelis step up and exterminate the Iranian regime. 22 minutes ago, RomanPer said: It’s better for the world if current regimes in Iran and Russia and dealt with once and for all. How is this done when both Russia and Iran are nuclear powers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 UPDATE: IRAN MISSLE HIT/MISS RATE 331 missiles and drones launched by Iran at Israel: - 185 out of 185 Kamikaze Drones were shot down - 103 out of 110 Ballistic Missiles were shot down - 36 out of 36 Cruise Missiles were shot down - 7 Ballistic Missile impacts have been recorded on Israeli territory Source: visegrad24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 28 minutes ago, RomanPer said: It’s better for the world if current regimes in Iran and Russia and dealt with once and for all. It benefits Russia if Israel responds and ties up the US and UK in defending Israel against Iran. It's actually better for Ukraine/Europe if the conflict ends today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanPer Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, 112 said: How is this done when both Russia and Iran are nuclear powers? Iran is not. As for Russia - paraphrasing famous words by Mark Twain, “News about their nuclear strength are greatly exaggerated”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: UPDATE: IRAN MISSLE HIT/MISS RATE 331 missiles and drones launched by Iran at Israel: - 185 out of 185 Kamikaze Drones were shot down - 103 out of 110 Ballistic Missiles were shot down - 36 out of 36 Cruise Missiles were shot down - 7 Ballistic Missile impacts have been recorded on Israeli territory Source: visegrad24 Spectacular waste of money Louis Eriksson levels of results vs money spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxi Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Spectacular waste of money Louis Eriksson levels of results vs money spent Likely costs Israel and it's allies a lot more to defend. This has been the Iranian playbook for a while. Use a cheap drone to force your opponent to defend themselves with an expensive missile. They've been doing this for some time from Yemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 What would the US response be if a county fired 300+ drones and rockets at them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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112 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 8 hours ago, RomanPer said: Iran is not. As for Russia - paraphrasing famous words by Mark Twain, “News about their nuclear strength are greatly exaggerated”. My bad on Iran. Yes, Russia probably has a lot of defunct nukes, but they also likely have lots that are operational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 So Israel attacks a consulate and everyone’s shocked Iran wouldn’t retaliate? Lol. Israel is baiting Iran to get America involved. Iran would be absolutely stupid to go beyond what they’ve done though. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 47 minutes ago, Odd. said: So Israel attacks a consulate and everyone’s shocked Iran wouldn’t retaliate? Lol. Israel is baiting Iran to get America involved. Iran would be absolutely stupid to go beyond what they’ve done though. Pecker sizing contest, at a governmental level. Neither side gives a fuck about the poor folk that end up dead. 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, Alflives said: What would the US response be if a county fired 300+ drones and rockets at them? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 42 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: There was a story in NYT If I am not mistaken 20 years or so ago. According to them right after 9.11 they had a big meeting with DOD, NSA etc. in which it was suggested to carry out limited nuclear strike on Afghanistan. Allegedly Bush was the one that was against it. Who knows if this was true or not but your photo reminded me of that story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Odd. Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gurn said: Pecker sizing contest, at a governmental level. Neither side gives a fuck about the poor folk that end up dead. Yep. On one hand you have Iran who have been massacring Kurds in Syria for decades and have completely uprooted millions in the Middle East with their proxy wars and funding of militant groups. On the other, you have poor little Israel who have been committing literal genocide while routinely breaking all kinds of international law try and play victim to gain western sympathy as global public opinion has swayed decisively against them. People who support Israel today are going to look real stupid 10 years later. Edited April 14 by Odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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