2024 Entry Draft

[Stierlitz]

 

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[Rip The Mesh]

 

[Rip The Mesh]

Three of my favorite words;  Shut down defenseman \/ 

Edited Saturday at 09:46 PM by Rip The Mesh

[CRAZY_4_NAZZY]

Canucks going heavy in the CHL route this draft..

 

I just wonder because of losing so many 1st and 2nds through trades, that there aren't going to be a lot of prospects rolling through Abbotsford. Abbotsford has a lot of mature prospects in their early to middle 20's. Given that the team needs constant influx of young players going to the farm and that the CHL prospects often only have 2 years before their rights go up, they are hoping that some of these CHL prospects pan out quicker and get them going through their system quickly. 

 

I like this route. Helping sustain a developmental structure for the farm team as they also trade out high picks for chase Cup runs. 

[Coconuts]

 

 

[Stierlitz]

Canucks drafted D Basile Sansonnens from Switzeland 

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[Nucker67]

So, Tanev to become a Leaf?

[Rip The Mesh]

Hey! Yah never know where this may go.

 

It's not impossible TO trades him...

[Jaimito]

58 minutes ago, Coconuts said:

 

 

 

It's a good day for exorcism. 

Was he born on Jun 6, 2006? 

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 08:33 PM by Jaimito

[Jaimito]

50 minutes ago, Stierlitz said:

 

Basile Exposition 

 

 

[Jaimito]

 

 

Hope he makes it one day. 

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[Hammertime]

NHL 2024 Draft reaction hindsight glasses. 

 

Just to get it out of my system lol. 

 

93 Matvei Shuravin

125 Simon Zether

162 Mac Swanson

189 Alex Zetterberg

221 Daniil Ustinkov

 

I would have been happy if those were our 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 09:18 PM by Hammertime

[Rip The Mesh]

A guy like this? You could see in as little as two or three years! Even less in Abbotsford. Good gob Patrick and staff.  

Edited Saturday at 09:38 PM by Rip The Mesh

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[NoCupSyndrome]

Strategy of picking high offensive upside at forward and big, solid skaters at defense. Can't complain with that approach.

[Hammertime]

30 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said:

 

Love that. Gotta assume not having a pick until the 3rd these guys put in a ton of hours scouting their picks. 

[Stierlitz]

I checked 2024 consensus pre-draft rankings and Canucks did quite well:

https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2024-nhl-draft-rankings-consensus-celebrini-demidov-levshunov-bob-mckenzie-athletic-prospects-elite/

 

- MELVIN FERNSTRÖM - listed #75, drafted # 93

- ANTHONY ROMANI - listed # 101, drafted # 162

- RILEY PATTERSON - listed #117, drafted # 125.

[Sabrefan1]

Did I miss a new Bettman decree or something?  When did the NHL start allowing teams to draft children straight out of junior high school?

 

 

[Rip The Mesh]

No player drafted after the first round of the NHL draft is perfect.

 

Heck, even most of the players drafted in the first round aren’t.

The difference, of course, is that as the draft progresses, the players available just don’t have as much talent to work with.

Once upon a time teams could take a late-round roll of the dice on a smaller player who had high-end skill, but as teams have got better at drafting, especially over the past decade, players like Henrik Zetterberg — who fell to the seventh round in 1999 despite already having played one season of men’s hockey and having scored plenty at that — just aren’t there to be found anymore.

“On average their third round pick will have a 25 per cent chance of playing 200-plus NHL games,” draft expert Shane Malloy said. “The fourth to seventh rounders have less than a 12 per cent chance. Not to sound negative, it’s just the historical probability.”

 

And that means the task of picking in the latter stages of the draft fit into a pretty standard maxim: all prospects are bad.

This is not far from the truth about free agent contracts that Lou Lamoriello was heard to exclaim more than once: every contract is a year too long and a million too much.

That is, nothing in hockey, or sport for that matter, is as it should be.

Most players picked in the draft don’t make it. That doesn’t mean they’re bad players — there wouldn’t be a closet industry of draft-watchers if there wasn’t any fun in watching young kids try to figure out the world’s fastest team sport — it just means the odds are against them. There are only 700-or-so jobs in the NHL and only a few of those spots open up every year.

 

So if you’re going to take stab at picking a player who probably isn’t going to make it but, maybe, just maybe, might, you do need to focus in on what the player can do and whether it’s reasonable to think you can add what they don’t have but will need to make it as an NHLer.

And in four of the five picks, it’s clear what the Canucks think. They went for players that either think the game well or have excellent skating already.

Elite Prospects editor-in-chief notes that in their prospect grading system, the kinds of players you’re finding are C-grade players. There’s a lot missing in their games, even if the top-line elements intrigue.

“Melvin Fernström didn’t find a spot on our board, but his dual-threat scoring ability, supporting skills, and production were such that we assigned him a C-grade, meaning we still rated him as about third-round talent,” J.D. Burke noted about the player Vancouver selected 93rd overall.

 

He can score — he was a top scorer in the Swedish junior league — and he’s good at finding space off the puck, but he needs to improve his skating and his overall puck battle skills.

The next two picks were another pair of top-line standouts who have work to do: one of the top-scoring rookies in the Ontario Hockey League (Riley Pattersson, 125th overall) and then the OHL’s leading goal scorer (Anthony Romani, 162nd overall).

“They got Riley Patterson and Anthony Romani much higher than they were on our final board, and each has a well-defined offensive identity and a commendable statistical profile; Patterson as a north-south rush creator and Romani as more of a triple-threat scorer, most effective during sustained pressure,” Burke noted.

 

The Canuck’s fourth pick, 189th overall, was an intriguing B.C. kid, Port Moody’s Parker Alcos, a lanky defender from the Edmonton Oil Kings.

“We ranked Alcos 93rd overall because of his size, mobility, and good tracking data that accounts for things like transition plays, passing, defensive plays, etc,” Burke explained.

The Canucks’ final pick, one of the last of the draft, 221st overall, was a very odd one though. The chance of a seventh rounder even playing an NHL game is very, very small, so small that there’s a strong case that the draft should be shortened in length.

The final pick by Vancouver was big Swiss defenceman Basile Sanssonens, who physically looks like an NHL player — but he has no offensive game to speak of and even the hard-edged defensive players in the NHL were productive players in junior. Sanssonens, on the other hand, scored just one goal in the Swiss junior league last season, a league not exactly known for churning out NHLers.

 

But other than that last pick, there were intriguing signs of the influence of the Canucks’ small but hard-working analytics staff.

“They seemed to covet the players that shine in most analytic draft models, which hasn’t been the case at all in the last two or three drafts,” Burke noted. “We know Ryan Biech is pretty embedded on the amateur side, and you have to wonder if his influence at the draft table hasn’t expanded with time.”