Ghostsof1915 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: Cool, call up Alvin and tell him we need more impact players, maybe they hadn't thought of that yet? Man I wish I lived in a fairytale world where you could just bring in impact players all willynilly like you do. Can't you just call EA sports and they will create a player for you? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dizzle said: I think you need to work on your understanding of things that are objective and subjective…. To be fair, I have a background in quantitative research and it can be a prickly bitch sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Can't you just call EA sports and they will create a player for you? Maybe they can put me in as a make a wish FA? I have ADHD and it makes me forget to do nearly everything my wife asks me to do. It's been a rough ride.. I also shoot right and play defense, problem solved! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dizzle said: I think you need to work on your understanding of things that are objective and subjective…. Ok. That again is your opinion. So doesn't bother me one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MeanSeanBean said: Maybe they can put me in as a make a wish FA? I have ADHD and it makes me forget to do nearly everything my wife asks me to do. It's been a rough ride.. I also shoot right and play defense, problem solved! Where were you at training camp????? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Where were you at training camp????? Sure was, but I was tackled and removed from the save-on-center before I even got on the ice. Rude. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: Maybe they can put me in as a make a wish FA? I have ADHD and it makes me forget to do nearly everything my COACH asks me to do. It's been a rough ride.. I also shoot right and play defense, problem solved! Tyler Myers? Is that you? Lol. Orginal post edited. Edited October 9, 2023 by Rekker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Rekker said: Tyler Myers? Is that you? Lol. Sorry, come again? I can't hear you from way up here. Edited October 9, 2023 by MeanSeanBean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, stawns said: Raty and Bains should be the pair, they're great together I’d love another “kes and burr” scenario for our team. Both guys formed an immediate bond on the farm team back in the day. They basically come up to the Canucks at the same time and continued that duo for a few seasons till Kes ran our 2nd line and Bur ran with the Sedins…I don’t think Raty and Bains will reach that but a good third line duo…not crazy to imagine imo. Kinda similar drafting story too. Kes/Raty high picks, Burr/Bains ECHL/undrafted guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Omg ... you guys are still ... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goal_thecup Posted October 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, IBatch said: Think the coaches were trying to see how well things would work with QHs and McWard because he's that good. We can't afford an injury as things are right now. Not a big one anyways. Lumme managed fine with Glynn when Murzyn went down ... think that's the reasoning behind trying guys out in practice and McWard with QHs this pre-season. Is he good enough to carry a top pairing mostly on his own? Not sure how things will go, but it's sure better then when Edler or Tanev went down, and Stecher or Del Zotto or Hutton or whomever had to step up too. Baby steps. Adding Myers and Miller was enough Sedin post one. Hopefully the bandaids, Soucy and Hronek will be enough this year. Good stuff as usual. It is an exciting time of year and it is easy to get caught up in the hype of new additions and subtractions, new systems, etc. I am not a Debbie Downer and this is not meant to lower our generally good feelings heading into the season. But, to perhaps forestall future disappointment and unnecessary hair-pulling, we might recall that this is still just Year 2 of The Plan. We are still going to be a rather gangly collection of bits starting to form longer-term chemistry and to enjoy some successes. We are still unraveling prior management's collection of writhing snakes sticking their ugly heads out of the soggy cardboard box of contracts and missteps. Therefore I continue to stay positive and enjoy the moves management is making and seeing the improvements everywhere with the team. I continue to greet the day with positive energy, looking forward to what it may bring, even though I sat up all night fixing our wonky toilet! Maybe that's the metaphor: JB left us with a faulty toilet overflowing crap and 'stuff' all over the place that takes considerable time to clean up and sanitize properly. But everyday, everything is a little bit better, even though we are all getting older (especially the players) and we all have our eye on the grim reaper and know that death awaits us all, we now have proper management and coaching, a bunch of new guys, and a clean slate. (No need to go back and bitch, Nancies.) GO CANUCKS GO! and DROP THE PUCK! 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: To be fair, I have a background in quantitative research and it can be a prickly bitch sometimes I assume you mean the task of establishing something as subjective or objective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Dizzle said: I assume you mean the task of establishing something as subjective or objective? More or less. The distinction between what you can prove through compiling data and what you feel to be true through experience. In this case, when the majority of players a team signs in the offseason have a primary characteristic of being tough to play against, it's a completely reasonable assumption that was the intended task. If your opinion those players aren't hard to play against, that's a subjective opinion vs looking at their hit totals and seeing they were all in the top percentile if their team, which is objective. Research is kinda fun... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs and Podz Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, Goal_thecup said: Good stuff as usual. It is an exciting time of year and it is easy to get caught up in the hype of new additions and subtractions, new systems, etc. I am not a Debbie Downer and this is not meant to lower our generally good feelings heading into the season. But, to perhaps forestall future disappointment and unnecessary hair-pulling, we might recall that this is still just Year 2 of The Plan. We are still going to be a rather gangly collection of bits starting to form longer-term chemistry and to enjoy some successes. We are still unraveling prior management's collection of writhing snakes sticking their ugly heads out of the soggy cardboard box of contracts and missteps. Therefore I continue to stay positive and enjoy the moves management is making and seeing the improvements everywhere with the team. I continue to greet the day with positive energy, looking forward to what it may bring, even though I sat up all night fixing our wonky toilet! Maybe that's the metaphor: JB left us with a faulty toilet overflowing crap and 'stuff' all over the place that takes considerable time to clean up and sanitize properly. But everyday, everything is a little bit better, even though we are all getting older (especially the players) and we all have our eye on the grim reaper and know that death awaits us all, we now have proper management and coaching, a bunch of new guys, and a clean slate. (No need to go back and bitch, Nancies.) GO CANUCKS GO! and DROP THE PUCK! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 19 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Don’t think so. He’s the 13th forward until Mikheyev is back. But he is now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: More or less. The distinction between what you can prove through compiling data and what you feel to be true through experience. In this case, when the majority of players a team signs in the offseason have a primary characteristic of being tough to play against, it's a completely reasonable assumption that was the intended task. If your opinion those players aren't hard to play against, that's a subjective opinion vs looking at their hit totals and seeing they were all in the top percentile if their team, which is objective. Research is kinda fun... The problem is ... research takes effort, also the ability to let go of opinions, whereas feelings and opinions are easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Dr. Crossbar said: The problem is ... research takes effort, also the ability to let go of opinions, whereas feelings and opinions are easy. Sure, completely agree. I think the important distinction is to clarify in an discussion if something is just your opinion or something you believe to be true through data. At least, that's always what I try to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, R3aL said: But he is now? No looks like he’s been sent down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I love how PA/JR have something call, an understanding of hockey, the bottom 6 players need to have a function...Sam Lafferty has a function - PK, tough, Blueger, Suter, all have a function, can PK, can chip in some offence, can win draws, I agree Podz, studicka were not really excelling at one particular function, Hogz is kinda the same I do think we need another D man to get not be a bubble team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I am afraid we will be one move short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: Sure, completely agree. I think the important distinction is to clarify in an discussion if something is just your opinion or something you believe to be true through data. At least, that's always what I try to do. Agree with you. I tend to also look for language choices/cues that are indicative of opinion ... or I choose those types of words, which makes clarifying unnecessary. Oftentimes, though, what get m into trouble is that people really need that distinction. A pet peeve of mine is when people clarify at the beginning or end of a discussion ... "just my opinion." I'm like ... well, whose opinion would it be if it wasn't yours? What was interesting a few pages ago ... someone posted what Toronto paid to get Lafferty - actual data - which proved his value was high, that paying a 5th was good value for us, and rendered opinion irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Agree with you. I tend to also look for language choices/cues that are indicative of opinion ... or I choose those types of words, which makes clarifying unnecessary. Oftentimes, though, what get m into trouble is that people really need that distinction. A pet peeve of mine is when people clarify at the beginning or end of a discussion ... "just my opinion." I'm like ... well, whose opinion would it be if it wasn't yours? What was interesting a few pages ago ... someone posted what Toronto paid to get Lafferty - actual data - which proved his value was high, that paying a 5th was good value for us, and rendered opinion irrelevant. Keep in mind Toronto had an unqualified dweeb running the team when they made that trade. I'm really not sure we're can be using Dubas' moves as a gauge of actual value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goose Posted October 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: What was interesting a few pages ago ... someone posted what Toronto paid to get Lafferty - actual data - which proved his value was high, that paying a 5th was good value for us, and rendered opinion irrelevant. There was rumour/speculation that EDM were also in in Lafferty. If the Canucks have productive season and SL plays a role in that, giving up a 5th seems worthwhile in retrospect. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Agree with you. I tend to also look for language choices/cues that are indicative of opinion ... or I choose those types of words, which makes clarifying unnecessary. Oftentimes, though, what get m into trouble is that people really need that distinction. A pet peeve of mine is when people clarify at the beginning or end of a discussion ... "just my opinion." I'm like ... well, whose opinion would it be if it wasn't yours? What was interesting a few pages ago ... someone posted what Toronto paid to get Lafferty - actual data - which proved his value was high, that paying a 5th was good value for us, and rendered opinion irrelevant. Disagree on the opinion part. If you make a statement like, Canucks will make the playoffs, that's much different then in my opinion the Canucks will make the playoffs. One implies it's the most likely outcome that Canucks will make the playoffs, and one if purely based off opinion. Clarifying that something is just your opinion is the easiest way to distinguish between an subjective and objective statement through text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Man Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 31 pages and counting… Speaks volumes about fan base well, two more sleeps until season starts GCG!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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