Provost Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: I think that is precisely why this unnerves me though. The message from Tocchet was to come to camp, earn a spot, play hard and make yourself noticeable. Jack from day one showed he was hungry for a roster spot, not just by playing hard, but he worked at being better along the walls, be hard to play against, being physical, working on his skating, and being a more versatile player adding PK ability to his arsenal. He reinvented his game, showed he can play a responsible two way game and bought into the system and gave exactly what you would've wanted to see from a player at camp. Same for Aman, his camp was very strong and showed he could be a reliable player in that fourth line roll with Studnicka. They both deserved to be on the final roster. Sure he didn't score or produce, but his effort was there. But its not like Joshua or Hoglander did either and had far more underwhelming camps. I get it Joshua has potential to play a heavier game and Hoglander has a higher ceiling, but I still don't like the messaging that just ebcause you may have a desirable trait like Joshua or Hoglander, doesn't mean that should be enough. At this point we need players who can reliably bring something, rather than hinging on potential. I get it but I still don't like it. There is a quote in a Friedman article from Tocchet basically saying the same thing. Those two guys did what it took to be on the roster but cap considerations “beyond his pay grade” meant they got sent down. “Aman and Studnicka had strong training camps and pre-seasons for the Canucks and head coach Rick Tocchet indicated they ordinarily would have been in the opening-night lineup on Wednesday. “It's a cap thing and it's over my paygrade,” Tocchet said. “That's the thing that sucks. For us to carry six defencemen, we have to do this. (Aman) will be back. It's just a matter of time. He's definitely in our plans.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Lock said: And I'm short like Tom Cruise too! Here I come Hollywood! The next Lex Luthor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Lock said: And I'm short like Tom Cruise too! Here I come Hollywood! Short AND bald?! You hit the genetic lottery! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: The next Lex Luthor? Gimme that role! I can be good and evil at the same time! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MeanSeanBean said: Short AND bald?! You hit the genetic lottery! I know right? Any shorter and I could be Mini-Me 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MeanSeanBean said: Short AND bald?! You hit the genetic lottery! Sean Bean, don't be so mean. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Lock said: I know right? Any shorter and I could be Mini-Me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Sean Bean, don't be so mean. I hope he dies in a movie!... oh wait... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Lock said: I hope he dies in a movie!... oh wait... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bob Long Posted October 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, Provost said: I didn’t realize our area of need was waiver wire wingers who have played some centre for our 4th line. That never seemed to come up on people’s wish lists before needing to rationalize this move. I mean we already have Blueger, Aman, Dries, Raty, Sasson, and Studnicka who are all depth Centre/Wingers to fill the same role. Tocchet even said that the guys played well enough to be on the roster but it was a “cap” move beyond his pay grade. We saw how well messing around with the roster just to get a few thousand closer to fully utilizing LTIR worked last year with our red hot start. The fact it appears to be cap related also leads me to believe we are done with moves unless something magical drops into our laps like a Peeke deal. I frankly have no idea how this team is going to go this season. Anywhere between bottom five to fringe playoff team seems most likely. Our improved defence has already become significantly unimproved with the Soucy injury. We were relying on a healthy Mikheyev to make a difference but who knows if he will be 100% and not playing catch up all year. Can a solid backup mean Demko can be at his best? We know if he plays too much he falls apart both technically and health wise (not uncommon for goalies so not a knock on him)… can he be kept to 55-60 games so he has enough in the tank for a possible playoff push? Can all the guys who had career years last year (that still didn’t get us close to the end playoffs) repeat that, PLUS some other guys bounce back? None of our guys have the same face off experience and he's apparently more physical. Is it earth shaking? No but having a more experienced RHC in the bottom 6 is an upgrade. I don't see how this isn't worth it for us. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aquaman Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Uhhhhh, WHO? Also why trade a pick and help the LEAFS…..with CAP relive. grossssss. 🫨 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Lock said: I hope he dies in a movie!... oh wait... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crabcakes Posted October 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2023 48 minutes ago, Truefan99 said: I'll take a guy who can knock guy's on their asses. We need more guys like that. 2 1 1 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Crossbar Posted October 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Crabcakes said: I'll take a guy who can knock guy's on their asses. We need more guys like that. We need more posts like this! 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure10Kuzmenko96 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Sophomore Jinx said: Agreed, it is a good thing....except when coaches like Willie D whisper in to GM's ears like Jimmy B - "Hey Jim, there's this kid I coached in the 'Hat, you're really gonna like him. Linden Vey." Oy vey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Bure10Kuzmenko96 said: Oy vey 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFaithfulcap Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, DrJockitch said: He is big, right shot and kills penalties. Dries is none of those things. They are both forwards but that is a pretty thin association He's another bottom six well-seasoned project with limited upside. We seem to specialize in them. I'd rather see one of our prospects given a shot. Edited October 9, 2023 by OldFaithfulcap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted October 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, OldFaithfulcap said: He's another bottom six well seasoned project with limited upside. We seem to specialize in them. I'd rather see one if our prospects given a shot. The new guy isn’t a project. He’s a solid bottom line grinder who plays a heavy game with speed. He’s a guy who is no fun to play against. And he cost us next to nothing and his cap hit is just over a million. It’s Shiny Dome’s job to find better players than we currently have. And this guy is better than Studmuffin. 3 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, OldFaithfulcap said: He's another bottom six well seasoned project with limited upside. We seem to specialize in them. I'd rather see one if our prospects given a shot. He's shown he's at least capable of playing in the NHL. Dries has shown that he doesn't belong anywhere near an NHL roster under any circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 48 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: We need more posts like this! Sorry… those were his career highlights. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFaithfulcap Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) You guys should all be michelin star chefs as you can apparently take other team's leftovers and create a cup winning feast. The same guys who signed laff, signed studs and dries... Back to my home on grinch mountain. Edited October 9, 2023 by OldFaithfulcap c 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27 Percent Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Man I was on the vey hype train so hard. Edited October 9, 2023 by 27 Percent 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, 27 Percent said: Man I was on the vey hype train so hard. So was I ... I was really rooting for him. Crazy all the family stuff he was dealing with. He actually did really well overseas. He can feel good about that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I don’t understand the trade because after sending wolinan and studnicka down we are still around 600-700k over the cap that’s with minimum roster of 20 + 2 that’ll be place on ir. We can send 2 more down before opening day with the 2 injured guy and place them down after opening day to ltir and then recall players to be compliant but we don’t have anyone that is waiver exempt to send down. So we risk losing them? Or we can operate above the cap limit with ltir.. but instead of having poolman and mikeyhev full ltir relieve we would only get 600k or whatever we are over the cap by. poolman and mikehyev counts against the cap until they are placed on ltir. So they need to figure out a way to get below prior to placing them on ltir.. for the start of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.