Dr. Crossbar Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, MeanSeanBean said: Disagree on the opinion part. If you make a statement like, Canucks will make the playoffs, that's much different then in my opinion the Canucks will make the playoffs. One implies it's the most likely outcome that Canucks will make the playoffs, and one if purely based off opinion. Clarifying that something is just your opinion is the easiest way to distinguish between an subjective and objective statement through text. I agree with you about distinguishing between subjective and objective in that context. I don't believe clarification or qualifying your opinion is always necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amebushi Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Can the offseason end soon? I just read all 32 pages of a thread about Sam Lafferty! People are not only upset about it but willing to argue for pages on here about it. Is he a plug? Yeah, kind of. Is he a useful plug? Yeah, kind of. Is he an upgrade over what we would otherwise have on our fourth line? I would say yes…he is. He fits into our cap debacle, is on an expiring contract , takes draws right handed, fights occasionally and only cost a fifth. If the rails come off before the deadline there is a decent chance that we can recoup a fourth for him or at least the fifth. We spent to get him here. Leafs fans don’t seem happy with the return so I am going to call this a very small win. If this guy lands one decent hit on McWhiner in the opener he will be a fan favorite all year. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoodlum Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 11:50 AM, Ghostsof1915 said: I think we have more bears than cougars. But I don't hang out at the pub all day. Hang out around by the Pumpjack and you can see all the bears you want lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: I agree with you about distinguishing between subjective and objective in that context. I don't believe clarification or qualifying your opinion is always necessary. I see you're new here 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, MeanSeanBean said: I see you're new here That's opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyCareBear Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) you'd think we traded multiple firsts and sam lafferty would be pastrnak level good with the amount of pages dedicated to this 4th liner and a 5th pick. Edited October 9, 2023 by HuggyCareBear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I'm a little surprised they didn't put in a claim on Bogosian or Coghlan, seemed like a couple good RH options to help round out the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: I'm a little surprised they didn't put in a claim on Bogosian or Coghlan, seemed like a couple good RH options to help round out the lineup. I think their number one focus is maximizing Poolmans LTIR space. The roster moves they made yesterday solidified that to the point that we can use pretty much all of it. With 2.5 mil we could go out and get an actual upgrade through a trade. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I think their number one focus is maximizing Poolmans LTIR space. The roster moves they made yesterday solidified that to the point that we can use pretty much all of it. With 2.5 mil we could go out and get an actual upgrade through a trade. Yeah that makes sense, I bet they are planning on bringing Ethan Bear back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Smashian Kassian said: Yeah that makes sense, I bet they are planning on bringing Ethan Bear back. Yea I think that’s a definite possibility although I’m not sure they’re willing to wait till December. I think we see a move before then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Yea I think that’s a definite possibility although I’m not sure they’re willing to wait till December. I think we see a move before then. Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekai Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 So basically Allvin has gotten Beauvillier, Raty & Hronek (maybe Bloom) for BO and a second I dont think anyone else on the list will push for top 6 forward or top 4 d pair. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) I think it's sad that no young forwards could crack this roster. Philippe DiGuiseppe is making the roster after being a journeyman his entire career and is on the second line. Ouch! Tells you how pathetic our player development has been. Edited October 9, 2023 by Canuckfanforlife82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Mordekai said: So basically Allvin has gotten Beauvillier, Raty & Hronek (maybe Bloom) for BO and a second I dont think anyone else on the list will push for top 6 forward or top 4 d pair. Also out... $16+ in future dead cap space. So we swapped Hronek for Horvat... the rest is just random replaceable bottom of the lineup players. Edited October 9, 2023 by Provost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, MeanSeanBean said: More or less. The distinction between what you can prove through compiling data and what you feel to be true through experience. In this case, when the majority of players a team signs in the offseason have a primary characteristic of being tough to play against, it's a completely reasonable assumption that was the intended task. If your opinion those players aren't hard to play against, that's a subjective opinion vs looking at their hit totals and seeing they were all in the top percentile if their team, which is objective. Research is kinda fun... Ergo, so are prickly bitches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Sophomore Jinx said: And therein lies the rub, that is really all he has brought so far, and there are oodles of guys in the show that do that, even Studnicka did, and he is waiver fodder. Studnicka was over rated. Not really a good hitter. Didn't scare anyone. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 40 minutes ago, Mordekai said: So basically Allvin has gotten Beauvillier, Raty & Hronek (maybe Bloom) for BO and a second I dont think anyone else on the list will push for top 6 forward or top 4 d pair. Dumping the elephant was a win by itself. Getting Hronrk, Beau, and Raty was a remarkable outcome for us. Ranks as one of our best trades ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Amebushi said: Can the offseason end soon? I just read all 32 pages of a thread about Sam Lafferty! People are not only upset about it but willing to argue for pages on here about it. Is he a plug? Yeah, kind of. Is he a useful plug? Yeah, kind of. Is he an upgrade over what we would otherwise have on our fourth line? I would say yes…he is. He fits into our cap debacle, is on an expiring contract , takes draws right handed, fights occasionally and only cost a fifth. If the rails come off before the deadline there is a decent chance that we can recoup a fourth for him or at least the fifth. We spent to get him here. Leafs fans don’t seem happy with the return so I am going to call this a very small win. If this guy lands one decent hit on McWhiner in the opener he will be a fan favorite all year. I'd rather seem him run Kadri, but otherwise, I agree. In my subjective opinion of what I think, I think Canuck fans are going to like Sam Lafferty a lot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal_thecup Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ROBsolete said: Hang out around by the Pumpjack and you can see all the bears you want lol. People don't see cougars because they don't look up. Cougars drop from tree branches. Unless they're in the bar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 It’s a solid trade for someone who kills penalties, is fast, and will chip in 25-30 points a year. He’s absolutely an upgrade over players like Studnicka and Aman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 12 hours ago, KingRaj91 said: I’m usually a pretty casual scroller but i couldn’t skip past this comment… brock for bogosian? U gotta be kidding me man hahaha Brock never plays a full season.Hasn't been the player we thought.Over paid by a lot . On TBL he might just get the 30 goals. We get another RHD vet that hits and is big. To we if we could work a trade like that work we would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amebushi Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Goal_thecup said: I'd rather seem him run Kadri, but otherwise, I agree. In my subjective opinion of what I think, I think Canuck fans are going to like Sam Lafferty a lot. I can get behind this 100%. I will gladly give up a fifth just to know that someone on the team has the foot speed, size and ability to take Kadri out in a corner. May not “move the needle” but it would be something to cheer for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Amebushi said: Can the offseason end soon? I just read all 32 pages of a thread about Sam Lafferty! People are not only upset about it but willing to argue for pages on here about it. Is he a plug? Yeah, kind of. Is he a useful plug? Yeah, kind of. Is he an upgrade over what we would otherwise have on our fourth line? I would say yes…he is. He fits into our cap debacle, is on an expiring contract , takes draws right handed, fights occasionally and only cost a fifth. If the rails come off before the deadline there is a decent chance that we can recoup a fourth for him or at least the fifth. We spent to get him here. Leafs fans don’t seem happy with the return so I am going to call this a very small win. If this guy lands one decent hit on McWhiner in the opener he will be a fan favorite all year. Exactly, way to much consternation here. Simple trade based on the hockey opinion of the people paid to make those decisions. Let's see what we got. Way to much complaining about nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: Yea I think that’s a definite possibility although I’m not sure they’re willing to wait till December. I think we see a move before then. I sure hope so. We can do better than Bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: I sure hope so. We can do better than Bear. Bear on a 2x2 years deal would be fine, or maybe 2.25x3 years something like that. Any more would be overpayment imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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