[Article] NHL reportedly bans Pride Tape for 2023-24 season

[ScottyBoy]

On 10/9/2023 at 8:27 PM, Sapper said:

For this to be true the nhl would have also.banned any different or special items for all other events as equally distracting

 

They didn't.  So it is targeted.

 

At what point do we say enough to expanding religous freedoms so that their will is forced on all of us.

I get it for a very limited few that legitimately have religious conflicts. But the vast majority claiming religion haven't warmed a pew in a very long time

 

Let those that wish stay in the locker room for warm up but this complete stripping of rights is just that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Except.....the article quoted by the OP was written by someone that apparently is just ignorant, or pushing their own agenda etc

 

The updated guidance reaffirms that on-ice player uniforms and gear for games, warmups and official team practices cannot be altered to reflect theme nights, including Pride, Hockey Fights Cancer or military appreciation celebrations. Players can voluntarily participate in themed celebrations off the ice

[ScottyBoy]

On 10/11/2023 at 7:51 PM, aGENT said:

 

The only thing people demanded was that a few people not be allowed to hide behind religion as an excuse for intolerance and bigotry.

That's absurd, just absurd to make any claim you know ehy. Maybe they had a bad experience? Maybe someone in LGBTQ community threatened them etc. 

 

You know what pride night reminds me of? When members of the LGTBQ community sexually assaulted and harassed me. I've had my arse and genitals grabbed, a penis shoved against my leg, a guy break down and start uncontrollably sobbing because I declined his offer explaining I was straight, a guy try and pull his penis out. What did I do to deserve this? Friends knew the owner of an "inclusive" bar and one of them would do part time bouncer work, and I went along, get some free drinks before we went to our normal place down the street...I'm sure it was my fault because people like you scream at the top of your lungs a straight white man can't be a victim

[Bob Long]

15 minutes ago, ScottyBoy said:

That's absurd, just absurd to make any claim you know ehy. Maybe they had a bad experience? Maybe someone in LGBTQ community threatened them etc. 

 

You know what pride night reminds me of? When members of the LGTBQ community sexually assaulted and harassed me. I've had my arse and genitals grabbed, a penis shoved against my leg, a guy break down and start uncontrollably sobbing because I declined his offer explaining I was straight, a guy try and pull his penis out. What did I do to deserve this? Friends knew the owner of an "inclusive" bar and one of them would do part time bouncer work, and I went along, get some free drinks before we went to our normal place down the street...I'm sure it was my fault because people like you scream at the top of your lungs a straight white man can't be a victim

 

100% happened. 

[MeanSeanBean]

45 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

100% happened. 

I wept at the part when the guy starting sobbing because someone was straight and then a guy tried to pull his penis out whist a man sobbed uncontrollably. That part really hit home. The world is so cruel sometimes. 

[Bob Long]

17 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said:

I wept at the part when the guy starting sobbing because someone was straight and then a guy tried to pull his penis out whist a man sobbed uncontrollably. That part really hit home. The world is so cruel sometimes. 

 

So by "tried"... Like did it get caught in something or? 

[Olli Juolevi]

4 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

So by "tried"... Like did it get caught in something or? 

Clunky zippers are the only thing standing between us, the peak of civilized society, and a world of unadulterated, rampant homosexuality.

[MeanSeanBean]

9 minutes ago, Olli Juolevi said:

Clunky zippers are the only thing standing between us, the peak of civilized society, and a world of unadulterated, rampant homosexuality.

Been there. Life's so hard for us straight men, risk of penises in zippers and overly aggressive homosexuality at every turn. 

[Bob Long]

32 minutes ago, Olli Juolevi said:

Clunky zippers are the only thing standing between us, the peak of civilized society, and a world of unadulterated, rampant homosexuality.

 

That seems reasonable.

[Maninthebox]

2 hours ago, Bob Long said:

 

100% happened. 

 

2 hours ago, MeanSeanBean said:

I wept at the part when the guy starting sobbing because someone was straight and then a guy tried to pull his penis out whist a man sobbed uncontrollably. That part really hit home. The world is so cruel sometimes. 

 

Is that how the two of you would respond were a woman to allege such incidents occurred? Or someone representing LGBT? 

[MeanSeanBean]

24 minutes ago, Maninthebox said:

 

 

Is that how the two of you would respond were a woman to allege such incidents occurred? Or someone representing LGBT? 

Nope, I would never respond to anyone in such a manner if I felt there was any chance it was a real encounter, doesn't matter gender or sexual orientation.

Edited October 17, 2023 by MeanSeanBean

[Miss Korea]

Travis Dermott is the pioneer.

 

 

[Coconuts]

2 hours ago, Miss Korea said:

Travis Dermott is the pioneer.

 

 

 

Hell yeah

[JeremyCuddles]

Dermott being a legend, I know it doesn't mean anything cause it's the video game. But I changed my player's tape to the pride tape. For my own personal F you to the league. Never changed the stick tape in my life prior to this game. But I hope more players jump on the bandwagon too.

[wai_lai416]

tbh i think banning pride tape is taking it a bit too far.. you want to ban warm up jersey so player that refuse to wear them won't get the backlash ok that's fine.. but banning hockey tape is a bit too far.. so if i goalie mask have a rainbow on it are they going to ban that too? what about if they have a rainbow colored goalie pads? banning rainbow tape for me is discrimination against the lgqbt.. because it specifically banned pride tape.. not banned all tapes that are not black and white unlike the warmup jersey ban. any punishment for players using pride tape will definitely be challeneged by the nhlpa

[Gurn]

Another story about Travis:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/coyotes-defenseman-defies-nhl-ban/ar-AA1iDI8m?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f7d71ba7a2174f12bca2baa9a477828f&ei=13

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Since the NHL sent out a memo to every team in the league banning the use of Pride Tape no one has defied the ban - until now.

During the Arizona Coyotes and Anaheim Ducks game today, Travis Dermott of the Coyotes was spotted wearing Pride Tape on his stick.

 

It was only a matter of time until a player stood up to the league on this matter. The CBA states that the player's can wear any color of tape on their sticks. Which creates a loophole should the league try to fine or discipline Dermott in any way.

Pride Tape has always been optional and banning it made very little sense to begin with. We will see if the league decides to do anything about this infraction.

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Multi billion dollar league, showing an incredible amount of incompetence, to the world; as a player points out.

[Coconuts]

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/10/22/zach-sullivan-nhl-ice-hockey-bisexual-pride-tape/

[Coconuts]

 

 

 

 

[Diamonds]

4 minutes ago, Coconuts said:

 

 

 

 

Seems like the NHL is realizing they've opened a can of worms they shouldn't have touched.

[Coconuts]

3 minutes ago, Diamonds said:

Seems like the NHL is realizing they've opened a can of worms they shouldn't have touched.

 

NHL doesn't have a spine, they're wishy washy af. 

 

 

The internet keeps it's receipts.

 

 

 

Edited October 23, 2023 by Coconuts

[Coconuts]

Big ups to Travis Dermott, dude just keeps showing up

 

https://gophnx.com/travis-dermott-discusses-decision-to-use-pride-tape/

 

Travis Dermott knew that he would draw attention with his actions in the Coyotes’ home opener against the Anaheim Ducks at Mullett Arena on Saturday. The Arizona defenseman just hoped that the spotlight might shine on the issue that he was addressing, not on him.

 

“You don’t really want to go against rules that are put in place by your employer, but there’s some people who took some positive things from it,” Dermott said. “That’s kind of what I’m looking to impact. 

 

“You want to have everyone feel included and that’s something that I have felt passionate about for a long time in my career. It’s not like I just just jumped on this train. It’s something that I’ve felt has been lacking in the hockey community for a while. I feel like we need supporters of a movement like this; to have everyone feel included and really to beat home the idea that hockey is for everyone.”

 

Dermott wrapped the shaft of his stick with rainbow tape on Saturday. The decision was in violation of the NHL’s guidelines set forth for theme nights by the NHL Board of Governors at a June meeting. Those guidelines banned the use of such tape after Pride Night stirred a great deal of controversy for the league on both sides of the issue. Dermott became the first player to defy the new rules.

 

“I won’t lie,” said Dermott, who is playing on a one-year, two-way contract. “From the outside, it’s easy to see that I’m putting my career on the line for something. I definitely went through some emotional ups and downs that night, not regretting anything by any means, but I’d love to have maybe done a couple of steps a little different by making sure that everyone was aware of what was going on before I did it.

 

“I don’t want to put my teammates or my coaches or my GMs or the equipment managers in any kind of bad light when it’s their job to kind of look out for something like this happening. It was definitely something that I did just by myself and was prepared to kind of deal with whatever repercussions the league decides to push towards that. I’m not going to back off and say that this battle is won, but we’re going to find better ways to do it.”

Coyotes defenseman Travis Dermott has been a longtime supporter of LGBTQ+ rights. (Getty Images)

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As Dermott noted, LGBTQ+ inclusion is an issue that he has supported for a long time. Without getting into specifics, Dermott said the issue is personal for him because it impacts people close to him.

“I’d be lying if I said I haven’t shed tears about this on multiple occasions,” he said. “So yeah, it’s something I’m definitely very passionate about.

 

“I’ve met a lot of people that from the outside, it looks like they have everything going right in their life and they have a smile on their face every time they talk to you. But sometimes when we get closer to people and get comfortable enough for them to open up to you, you can see that there’s some pretty dark stuff happening to some good people. It doesn’t take too many times encountering something like that for it to really change someone.

 

“I’ve been blessed to have some of those opportunities put in front of me to really change my view of what being a good person means; what being a good father and a good example and role model means going forward. You really see how people are hurting and it’s because of a system that maybe no one’s intentionally trying to be malicious about, but until you’ve really had that first-person experience seeing people hurting from it right in front of you, it’s tough to kind of take steps.”

 

Dermott said he has received an outpouring of support from family, friends, players and media members. Longtime hockey executive Brian Burke is one of those supporters who has been vocal about it.

Dermott said he has also received support from the organization.

 

“We as an organization, first and foremost, respect and support our players’ rights to express themselves as individuals. Second, I want to be very clear that as an organization, we remain steadfast in our support of the LGBTQ+ community,” Coyotes president and CEO Xavier Gutierrez said. “We will continue with our efforts as an organization to not only support, but to celebrate that community in addition to all the other communities that we have been very focused on embracing, welcoming, extending our hands to and opening our doors.

 

“The players are very well aware of the rules by which they need to abide, and it is their decision, but we are very supportive of them as individuals doing so. You will see us continue to take organization-wide efforts to express our support for this community within the boundaries set forth by the NHL.”

 

Last week, Gutierrez joined the PHNX Coyotes show to expand upon the team’s stance in the wake of the league’s new guidelines.

When asked if there was a timeline for the league deciding whether to punish Dermott, here’s what NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said via email:

 

“No timeline, no,” he said. “Will be handled in due course.”

 

It would be a surprise if the league handed down any sort of punishment. The optics alone would add to the public relations damage that the original ban created. Even so, Dermott reiterated his desire to bring the entire franchise into the fold before he takes similar actions in the future, but he also made it clear that he will not be silenced on the topic.

 

“It’s not like I’m shutting up and going away,” he said. “I know more questions are going to be coming. We’re just going to be as prepared as we can be to just spread love. That’s the thing. It’s gay pride that we’re talking about, but it could be men’s health. It could be any war. It’s just wanting world peace. Everyone’s got to love each other a little bit more.

 

“Like my parents said growing up, ‘How awesome would it be to be the guy that people look up to?’ That’s what really hit home when I was a kid, especially from my mom. You want to grow up and be that guy. You want to be the guy that’s having the impact on kids like NHL players had on you. If they had been racist or bigoted, that’s going to have an effect on you.

 

“With how many eyes are on us, especially with the young kids coming up in the new generation, you want to put as much positive love into their brain as you can. You want them to see that it’s not just being taught or coming from maybe their parents at home. They need to see it in the public eye for it to really make an effect.”

[Goalie Interference]

5 hours ago, Diamonds said:

Seems like the NHL is realizing they've opened a can of worms they shouldn't have touched.

On the contrary: a group of players openly defying the ban on pride tape carries much more weight than the entire league wearing rainbow warmup jerseys because they're told they're contractually obliged to.

 

The NHL should always have made LTBTQ support opt-in. Instead, they tried to enforce it leaguewide and made negative headlines when a few people opted out. Kudos to Dermott.

[higgyfan]

I like the idea of praising the players that have the courage to support the LBGT+ community

despite the NHL ban, rather than shaming the players that aren't there yet.

 

 

[RWJC]

NHL Rescinds Ban on Pride Tape During Games and Practices: Reports

 

Mike Stephens

 

The NHL walked back its decision to ban players from using Pride Tape in games this season, allowing players the option to represent social causes with stick tape, according to multiple reports.

 

The NHL's ban on Pride Tape reportedly lasted two weeks into the season. 

 

Following backlash from fans, players and team staff alike, the league walked back its decision by agreeing with the NHLPA and the NHL Player Inclusion Coalition that players can represent social causes with stick tape throughout the season in games and practices.  Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman first reported the news, and The Athletic's Pierre LeBrun reported a league official confirmed the rumblings. LeBrun's colleague Chris Johnston also reported an official announcement could come shortly.

 

The news comes two days after Arizona Coyotes defenseman Travis Dermott became the first player to defy the NHL's Pride Tape ban in a game, using the tape on the shaft of his stick in a contest versus the Anaheim Ducks.

 

“You don’t really want to go against rules that are put in place by your employer, but there are some people who took some positive things from it,” Dermott told PHNX's Craig Morgan of his decision following the game on Saturday. 

 

“That’s kind of what I’m looking to impact.”

 

After quietly instituting the ban on Pride Tape in a league-wide memo sent to teams just days before the regular season began, the NHL received criticism from a number of prominent organizations, such as the You Can Play Project and the creators of Pride Tape, with players from multiple different teams also either denouncing the ban or voicing their willingness to defy the rule altogether. 

Given the backlash, many expected the NHL to ultimately reverse its decision at some point in the season. And, with today's reports, that day has likely now come. 
 

link to rest of article:

https://thehockeynews.com/news/nhl-rescinds-ban-on-pride-tape-during-games-and-practices-reports
 

 

Report: NHL, inclusion committee agree to allow Pride Tape

 

 

Arun Srinivasan

Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 9:54 AM

 

In the aftermath of Coyotes defenseman Travis Dermott using Pride Tape, the NHL will give players the option to represent social causes with their stick tape.

 

The NHL, in conjunction with the NHLPA and the NHL Player Inclusion Committee have agreed to allow players to represent social causes and advocacy through stick tape, an indirect reference to Pride Tape, as first reported bySportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman.

 

This is an apparent reversal of the NHL’s ban on Pride Tape, a small gesture of solidarity with LGBTQ+ communities that players have displayed for several seasons. The league received widespread backlash for their original decision, after outlawing Pride-centric practice jerseys for the 2023-24 season.

 

“It sounds like there’s going to be announcement at some point today between the league, the players’ association and the player inclusion coalition, players will have the option to voluntarily represent social causes with their stick tape throughout the season,” Friedman said to Sportsnet’s Jeff Marek on Tuesday, citing multiple sources.

 

Philadelphia Flyers forward Scott Laughton told reporters on Oct. 11 that he still intends to use Pride Tape despite the league’s ban. Arizona Coyotes defenseman Travis Dermott used Pride Tape during Saturday’s game against the Anaheim Ducks.

Dermott also told The Athletic’s Chris Johnston that he won’t be using Pride Tape during Tuesday’s game against the Los Angeles Kings.

 

“The war’s not over. Definitely not, by any means,” the blueliner told Johnston. “You don’t want to fully back off and zip your mouth up when something like this happens, but you’ve got to find the right game plan to attack it with.

“Where you’re supporting your organization and not making them look bad, and you don’t want to step on the league’s toes and really start a fight with them, but still tell them that I think this stuff’s important.”

 

The NHL never clarified any punitive action against players who would disobey their ruling. It appears that the league has realized that showing solidarity with  LGBTQ+ communities can be as simple as allowing players to use the multicoloured tape, rather than focusing on the fringe minority of players who disagree with social initiatives in sports.

link to rest of article:

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/report-nhl-inclusion-committee-agree-to-allow-pride-tape-165414078.html

 

 

 

NHL rescinds ban on Pride Tape

 

The NHL confirmed Tuesday it has rescinding its decision to prevent players from using Pride Tape on ice this season.

 

The decision comes after Arizona Coyotes defenceman Travis Dermott used the recently-banned Pride Tape on the shaft of his stick in Saturday's matinee game against the Anaheim Ducks.

Dermott told TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston on Monday that he did not plan to continue using Pride Tape after becoming the first player to stand in defiance of a league memo, but planned to use his platform to continue to support the LGBTQ+ community in other ways.

 

“The war’s not over. Definitely not, by any means,” Dermott said in The Athletic. “You don’t want to fully back off and zip your mouth up when something like this happens, but you’ve got to find the right game plan to attack it with.

 

“Where you’re supporting your organization and not making them look bad, and you don’t want to step on the league’s toes and really start a fight with them, but still tell them that I think this stuff’s important.”

 

The Canadian Press reported in early October that the NHL sent a memo to teams clarifying what players can and cannot do as part of theme celebrations this season, including a ban on the use of rainbow-coloured stick tape for Pride nights. 

 

When asked Saturday if Dermott would be fined or disciplined for going against the ban, the NHL told The Athletic “We will review it in due course," in a statement.

“You can see it as the league’s taking away our voice,” Dermott added to Johnston. “We can’t speak. We don’t have any of this expression anymore. I feel like that’s a valid way to think, and it’s easy to kind of see it that way. A lot of people do, and I’m sure will continue to.

 

“It’s such a fine line where the league wants to look good and the league wants to support all of these things, but you also don’t want all of the negativity that can come from someone not supporting it and you don’t want to force people who don’t support something to support something, and I completely understand that point of view.

 

“I can take a step back and see that, hands down, no problem. But at the same time, you’d love for players to still be able to express themselves if they would like. You’d love to still have that.”

Dermott added in The Athletic that he had yet to hear from the league regarding the act.

 

link to rest of article:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-rescinding-ban-on-pride-tape-1.2025218?tsn-amp

 

Edited October 24, 2023 by RWJC

[The Arrogant Worms]

[canuck73_3]

On 10/17/2023 at 12:56 PM, Bob Long said:

 

So by "tried"... Like did it get caught in something or? 

Zippers are a cruel bitch