[Report] Conor Garland given permission to seek trade

[Huggy Bear]

3 minutes ago, Billabong said:

Nashville, wpg and Columbus are interested Friedman reported 

 

I'm so disgusted of retaining on garland on top of buying out OEL 

 

that trade gets worse and worse 

Yeah, makes me sick to waste more cap for 3 more years. Needs to be a great contract coming back to even it out. 
 

Peeke, Boqvist or Fabbro make sense if they can play with Hughes for under $3M

[RWJC]

Truth Behind Conor Garland Trade Request Rumors With Canucks

 

Originally posted on NHL Trade Talk  |  Last updated 10/14/23

 

According to Rick Dhaliwal, there is uncertainty surrounding whether Canucks forward Conor Garland has requested a trade. Despite swirling rumors suggesting his desire to leave and his new agent Judd Moldaver exploring potential deals, Dhaliwal expressed skepticism about it being a formal trade request. The timing of the request just doesn’t make sense, argues the Canucks host and analyst. 

Instead, he believes the Canucks view the situation as mutually beneficial if the agent can facilitate a move, especially in the challenging landscape of the tight salary cap.

 

 

Noting that he knows for a certainty that Garland did not ask for a trade during the summer, when it would have made the most sense to do so, why would Garland switch agents and ask for a trade the day before the season opener? Dhaliwal debunked the summer trade request rumor, clarifying that Garland was enthusiastic about playing for Rick Tocchet during the offseason. 
 

That said, Dhaliwal mentioned that the Canucks have been attempting to trade Garland for over a year and a half. Like the challenge they faced with Brock Boeser, it’s difficult to move a player with a sizeable contract that also has term. The Canucks have faced difficulties and the hope is that a power agent like Moldaver can do something the organization has been unable to do. Part of the urgency in all of this is that it’s finally occurred to the Canucks that they will need to retain salary to get this done and want to retain as little as possible. 

 

Could the Nashville Predators Be a Fit?

 

In discussions, Elliotte Friedman raised the possibility of the Nashville Predators as a potential trade destination for Garland. With ample cap space to accommodate Garland’s $4.95 million average annual salary, the Predators are reportedly seeking a player who aligns well with general manager Barry Trotz and head coach Andrew Brunette.

 

 

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/amp/truth_behind_conor_garland_trade_request_rumors_with_canucks/s1_16454_39389739

[Alflives]

8 minutes ago, RWJC said:

 

ahhh yes, but Fabbro as a RHD should be an easier option to trade come TDL than a Garland.

I see! Fabbro is traded for a pick at the coming TDL. Smart thinking. 

[snowman955]

He does provide a role that others do no. His contract is a concern.

 

Do any of the teams mentioned have what Mgt is looking for?

 

Too bad Ottawa is at the cap. I would ask for Hoyt Stanley (local BC)

Rd and assets as he is unproven 

[RWJC]

Just now, Alflives said:

I see! Fabbro is traded for a pick at the coming TDL. Smart thinking. 

that’s what I’d be looking at if I was mgmt. how to relieve one issue, use that in the interim to support a weaker area on the roster, and as it’s a bit of a misfit part, utilize its value and rarity (to a degree) to more easily equip the team with what it needs via trade. 
been trying to move Garland directly for 1.5 years to improve the club and increase cap space. If it’s not working directly then make lateral moves until the positioning lines up

[Huggy Bear]

1 minute ago, RWJC said:

that’s what I’d be looking at if I was mgmt. how to relieve one issue, use that in the interim to support a weaker area on the roster, and as it’s a bit of a misfit part, utilize its value and rarity (to a degree) to more easily equip the team with what it needs via trade. 
been trying to move Garland directly for 1.5 years to improve the club and increase cap space. If it’s not working directly then make lateral moves until the positioning lines up

good plan

[Billabong]

4 minutes ago, Huggy Bear said:

Yeah, makes me sick to waste more cap for 3 more years. Needs to be a great contract coming back to even it out. 
 

Peeke, Boqvist or Fabbro make sense if they can play with Hughes for under $3M

If the Canucks retain 1.5m of garland deal + the OEL buy out 

 

23-24 = 1.6m cap hit 

24-25 = 3.8m cap hit 

25-26 = 6.2m cap hit 

 

On top of eating up 1 of the 3 retained salary the canucks can have at any given time 

 

[Huggy Bear]

1 minute ago, Billabong said:

If the Canucks retain 1.5m of garland deal + the OEL buy out 

 

23-24 = 1.6m cap hit 

24-25 = 3.8m cap hit 

25-26 = 6.2m cap hit 

 

On top of eating up 1 of the 3 retained salary the canucks can have at any given time 

 

Meanwhile OEL is playing well for FLA…on the same team as Forsling…

 

[higgyfan]

16 minutes ago, Billabong said:

Nashville, wpg and Columbus are interested Friedman reported 

 

I'm so disgusted of retaining on garland on top of buying out OEL 

 

like we all knew that OEL contract would not age well but even that garland contract is now considered too rich when once upon a time at was a good value deal 

 

that trade gets worse and worse 

 

Please let it be the Jets!  They want Garly because he's locked into 3yrs.

Trade:  Garly (ret $1m)x3  for Dillon $3.9x1yr.

 

 

[Huggy Bear]

4 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

 

Please let it be the Jets!  They want Garly because he's locked into 3yrs.

Trade:  Garly (ret $1m)x3  for Dillon $3.9x1yr.

 

 

Dillon seems in the mould of Soucy/Cole, and is another lefty. How would you line up our D if we got him?

Edited October 15, 2023 by Huggy Bear

[The Duke]

24 minutes ago, RWJC said:

Truth Behind Conor Garland Trade Request Rumors With Canucks

 

Originally posted on NHL Trade Talk  |  Last updated 10/14/23

 

According to Rick Dhaliwal, there is uncertainty surrounding whether Canucks forward Conor Garland has requested a trade. Despite swirling rumors suggesting his desire to leave and his new agent Judd Moldaver exploring potential deals, Dhaliwal expressed skepticism about it being a formal trade request. The timing of the request just doesn’t make sense, argues the Canucks host and analyst. 

Instead, he believes the Canucks view the situation as mutually beneficial if the agent can facilitate a move, especially in the challenging landscape of the tight salary cap.

 

 

Noting that he knows for a certainty that Garland did not ask for a trade during the summer, when it would have made the most sense to do so, why would Garland switch agents and ask for a trade the day before the season opener? Dhaliwal debunked the summer trade request rumor, clarifying that Garland was enthusiastic about playing for Rick Tocchet during the offseason. 
 

That said, Dhaliwal mentioned that the Canucks have been attempting to trade Garland for over a year and a half. Like the challenge they faced with Brock Boeser, it’s difficult to move a player with a sizeable contract that also has term. The Canucks have faced difficulties and the hope is that a power agent like Moldaver can do something the organization has been unable to do. Part of the urgency in all of this is that it’s finally occurred to the Canucks that they will need to retain salary to get this done and want to retain as little as possible. 

 

Could the Nashville Predators Be a Fit?

 

In discussions, Elliotte Friedman raised the possibility of the Nashville Predators as a potential trade destination for Garland. With ample cap space to accommodate Garland’s $4.95 million average annual salary, the Predators are reportedly seeking a player who aligns well with general manager Barry Trotz and head coach Andrew Brunette.

 

 

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/amp/truth_behind_conor_garland_trade_request_rumors_with_canucks/s1_16454_39389739

This somehow makes sense and makes the whole situation a bit more confusing at the same time.

[Bob Long]

23 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I see! Fabbro is traded for a pick at the coming TDL. Smart thinking. 

 

Do we need Fabbro and his huge noggin? Is he an upgrade on Bear? 

Edited October 15, 2023 by Bob Long

[lionized27]

10 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Do we need Fabbro and his huge noggin? Is he an upgrade on Bear? 

No and no.

 

If it's Nashville bring back Schenn, straight up.

[Huggy Bear]

9 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Do we need Fabbro and his huge noggin? Is he an upgrade on Bear? 

That’s a good question. He played with Josi tonight in their 3-2 loss to BOS. 
 

Haven’t seen enough of him to compare him to Bear, but his scouting report reads very similar. Still young enough to have a little upside.

1 minute ago, lionized27 said:

No and no.

 

If it's Nashville bring back Schenn, straight up.

Schenn didn’t play tonight. Wonder if he’s scratched or injured.

[Huggy Bear]

Boqvist and Fabbro both played fairly prominent roles tonight. Showcased for a trade?
 

Maybe we want another RHD puck-mover so Hughes/Hronek can stay together?

[higgyfan]

25 minutes ago, Huggy Bear said:

Dillon seems in the mould of Soucy/Cole, and is another lefty. How would you line up our D if we got him?

He's tougher than those 2.  Besides, they both can play rd as well.  That would

make all 6 dmen strong at each of the 3 pairings. 

[Huggy Bear]

1 minute ago, higgyfan said:

He's tougher than those 2.  Besides, they both can play rd as well.  That would

make all 6 dmen strong at each of the 3 pairings. 

nice, and a local boy too. 
 

maybe reunite Soucy Cole

[RWJC]

16 minutes ago, lionized27 said:

No and no.

 

If it's Nashville bring back Schenn, straight up.

Here’s the rub though. We’ve tried Bear and we know what he delivers. 
He’s on the shelf right now and won’t be a player until December maybe?

 

We don’t know what Fabbro can provide HERE. It’s one thing to assume a player’s trajectory from one team/coaching system/depth chart/environment, but until you implement that player in another altogether, it’s not always a guarantee that you’ll receive exactly the same.

Eg. Forsling, Schmidt, etc etc. 

 

it would seem unlikely now, but what if Fabbro turned out to ideally complement QH? Wouldn’t that be a coup? I’m not saying Fabbro is an upgrade on Bear in terms of optics, but it’s not fair to assume he’d be a flop either. Bear showed some chemistry with QH, why is that not a possibility with Fabbro?

 

Personally Fabbro wouldn’t be a Dman I’d be pursuing given our needs, but with respect to the position we are stuck in, it’s not far fetched that a change of scenery and a placement alongside an elite D like QH couldn’t improve his production and value even as a trade chip.

 

 

[RWJC]

9 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

He's tougher than those 2.  Besides, they both can play rd as well.  That would

make all 6 dmen strong at each of the 3 pairings. 

Dillon is a great add. He’s also slower than Myers on Valium.

Cole, Soucy, Myers, and Dillon is a McDavid wet dream and would be a real issue.

[lionized27]

14 minutes ago, RWJC said:

Here’s the rub though. We’ve tried Bear and we know what he delivers. 
He’s on the shelf right now and won’t be a player until December maybe?

 

We don’t know what Fabbro can provide HERE. It’s one thing to assume a player’s trajectory from one team/coaching system/depth chart/environment, but until you implement that player in another altogether, it’s not always a guarantee that you’ll receive exactly the same.

Eg. Forsling, Schmidt, etc etc. 

 

it would seem unlikely now, but what if Fabbro turned out to ideally complement QH? Wouldn’t that be a coup? I’m not saying Fabbro is an upgrade on Bear in terms of optics, but it’s not fair to assume he’d be a flop either. Bear showed some chemistry with QH, why is that not a possibility with Fabbro?

 

Personally Fabbro wouldn’t be a Dman I’d be pursuing given our needs, but with respect to the position we are stuck in, it’s not far fetched that a change of scenery and a placement alongside an elite D like QH couldn’t improve his production and value even as a trade chip.

 

 

 

Solely based on age and potential. 

Schenn is a known commodity as Hughes' partner. 

Fabbro is a (slight) gamble. 

I see Hughes as needing more defensive defense partner, with "some" mobility.

Definitely a good passer with good hockey IQ. The awareness to see when Hughes is open for that first pass. We all know he'll get to that spot. 

Schenn knows this and has known it from the start. He knows his role at Hughes' partner. 

[RWJC]

3 minutes ago, lionized27 said:

 

Solely based on age and potential. 

Schenn is a known commodity as Hughes' partner. 

Fabbro is a (slight) gamble. 

I see Hughes as needing more defensive defense partner, with "some" mobility.

Definitely a good passer with good hockey IQ. The awareness to see when Hughes is open for that first pass. We all know he'll get to that spot. 

Schenn knows this and has known it from the start. He knows his role at Hughes' partner. 

Totally agree, would LOVE to have Schenn back.  But at 2.75 per for this and next two seasons? it’s not breaking the bank, but if we improve the overall D roster skill and depth and he eventually becomes a 7th for us, that’s a fair chunk tied up in the pressbox.

Edited October 15, 2023 by RWJC

[Lemon Face]

Peeeeeekkkkkeeeeeeee

[RWJC]

Canucks want defenceman, cap space in a Conor Garland trade: Report

 

The Vancouver Canucks still want to trade Conor Garland and they’re hoping to get a defenceman in return.

So reports Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman Saturday.

 

Friedman, the national Canadian broadcaster’s designated insider, said during the second intermission of Saturday’s edition of Hockey Night in Canada that the Canucks are still looking to move Garland.

 

As has been previously reported by Postmedia and others, Garland has been on the Canucks’ trade block for more than a year, with the creative winger not opposed to a change in scenery.

 

Things did see to find a new pace in pre-season, as Garland changed agents from Peter Cooney’s small Boston-based firm to Wasserman Sports’ Judd Moldaver, an agent with a reputation for acting aggressively on behalf of his clients.

 

Moldaver has been given authorization by the Canucks to see if he can find a team that would be willing to trade for Garland; a sign that the Canucks are out of ideas, having obviously been fruitless in their own efforts to date.

 

According to Friedman, the Canucks would like to find a way to cut $1 to $2 million in cap space in their trade; most analysis concludes they’d have to retain some amount of salary to make a Garland trade work. Garland has three years left on a deal that carries a cap hit of nearly $5 million per season.

 

Friedman says that Columbus, Nashville and Winnipeg are teams who have considered a trade for Garland.

 

Garland is a very effective player, who draws far more penalties than he takes. In 2021-22, his first season in Vancouver he scored at the highest per-minute 5 on 5 rate of any player on the Canucks, and barely played on the power play.

 

Last year his scoring slipped some, but he remained a highly effective player, with the puck in the offensive zone far more than it was in the defensive end.

 

When the Canucks traded with the Arizona Coyotes for Garland in the summer of 2021, word was Arizona wanted a late first-round pick for him in a straight-up trade. Had the Canucks looked to trade Garland a year ago, with the productive season he was coming off of, you have to think he’d have fetched a similar, if not better price.

 

pjohnston@postmedia.com

 

twitter.com/risingaction

https://apple.news/Al9haITXsQrilYwTWMjHFCQ

Edited October 15, 2023 by RWJC

[filthy animal]

On 10/10/2023 at 5:39 PM, RWJC said:

 

 

Cue the old adage: the loudest one in the room is usually also the weakest one.
 

Try finding some composure. you’re making yourself look bad. 

 

No doubt. The fact that he's got time to write up a 20,000 word essay on how Benning is awesome is baffling. If you have 2 minutes to spare (Im sure you have better things to do) and I extend this as well to any user reading this, check out AnthonyG's posts. Practically every 2nd or 3rd posts hes either talking down to somebody or starting $hit.

[filthy animal]

On 10/10/2023 at 7:19 PM, AnthonyG said:

His mistakes will of course be amplified because of the state of the organization.

How about Gillis overpaying in every single trade? Lol how about that Ballard trade lmao.

 

Clearly an exaggeration, considering Benning trading for OEL will go down as probably the worst trade this franchise has ever made

 

Trading Luongo for Markstrom and Shawn Matthias, the former basically kept the team from being the worst team in the league on your boys watch, and the latter helped him get to his ONLY 100+ pt season